African Union denies Haiti Membership

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Africa has enough problems, why would they want to take on the biggest problem in the Caribbean?
 

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The time is ripe for annexation of Haiti. Let's make it the 51st state.
 

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Disgusting, Haiti should absolutely be a full member, and these fukking West African countries need to offer citizenship to those in the diaspora and not make us jump through and million and one hoops for it either.

The shyt is quite basic yet they refuse to do it :camby:
Exactly its a no brainer on both fronts.
 

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Like I said maybe I`m just showing my ignorance to geopolitical issues.

Are you saying the focus of this is mainly potential trade agreements? If so I ask what "Union" is China and the African Businesses they do business in together? And if they are in one is Haiti not already a member?

Yes part of the focus is on potential trade agreements and the other part is security/mediation. China is the next global economic super power so of course African Countries, especially those with poor infrastructure will be open to doing trade with them just like they would be open to any developed western countries wanting to enter into an official trade agreement. Oddly enough, the U.S. does not have any official trade agreements with subsaharan African Countries. So that is why the AU is needed. And like I said, the other part is security/mediation which is badly needed in Haiti. The AU has an apparatus to deal with such issues: African Peace and Security Architecture (APSA) - African Union - Peace and Security Department
 
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again, what does that have to do with haiti being legitimate, or maybe you meant to use another word

AU rejecting haiti now says nothing either way about joining it in the future,

AU does not have a security apparatus lol, wtf are you talking about

its 100x more important for haiti to join trade agreements with the america's, trade agreements with the AU or african countries are good but its not of primary importance

this is not that big of a deal, you are acting like the future of haiti is dependent on being part of the AU, which is ridiculous

Haiti will probably never be a full member of the AU or any global union. The AU at this time was there last hope..And yes the AU does have a security apparatus so WTF are you talking about? African Peace and Security Architecture (APSA) - African Union - Peace and Security Department

The U.S. or any North or South American will never have an official trade agreement with Haiti for practical and historical purposes. What did the Americas due when the cholera crisis happened? What are the Americas doing to help rebuild Haiti from the earthquake 6 years ago? What did the America's do when the DR was deporting thousands of Haitian descent Dominicans back to Haiti? Americas dont give a motherfukk about Haiti so the notion that they should wait around for the America's for trade agreements would push them further down the totem pole. Maybe if the AU would have accepted Haiti at this time the Americas would have been more open but for now it aint happening. The future of Haiti could have taken a step forward if the AU would have accepted them. Now Haiti and its people will continue to wallow in misery smh
 

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Disgusting, Haiti should absolutely be a full member, and these fukking West African countries need to offer citizenship to those in the diaspora and not make us jump through and million and one hoops for it either.

The shyt is quite basic yet they refuse to do it :camby:

Citizenship doesnt stop you from doing business, I think it stops you from owning land though. Either way there are ways to make things shake but of course I agree as I mentioned it a few posts up. It sounds good but I would assume there would need to be agreements made with the non African Nations? Like if a West African Nation had free college and Free Healthcare, and offered a dual citizenship which gives you access to these things, I would assume that would cause issues for the US?
 

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Haiti will probably never be a full member of the AU or any global union. The AU at this time was there last hope..And yes the AU does have a security apparatus so WTF are you talking about? African Peace and Security Architecture (APSA) - African Union - Peace and Security Department

The U.S. or any North or South American will never have an official trade agreement with Haiti for practical and historical purposes. What did the Americas due when the cholera crisis happened? What are the Americas doing to help rebuild Haiti from the earthquake 6 years ago? What did the America's do when the DR was deporting thousands of Haitian descent Dominicans back to Haiti? Americas dont give a motherfukk about Haiti so the notion that they should wait around for the America's for trade agreements would push them further down the totem pole. Maybe if the AU would have accepted Haiti at this time the Americas would have been more open but for now it aint happening. The future of Haiti could have taken a step forward if the AU would have accepted them. Now Haiti and its people will continue to wallow in misery smh

I have no idea what the Americas have done to help Haiti

A trade agreement is simply to increase trade between countries, it's not to "help" a country in the sense you are saying saying

I wasn't suggesting that the Americas are going to "help" Haiti, I was just saying that increased trade is good for Haiti, and they should start with countries that are nearby

If the AU is Haiti's only hope then haiti is screwed cuz the AU is a pathetic organization, AU does not have a security apparatus, that is absurd

Luckily you don't know what you are talking about and are simply running away with some pathetic exaggerated narrative about Haiti being a hopeless case
 

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I have no idea what the Americas have done to help Haiti

A trade agreement is simply to increase trade between countries, it's not to "help" a country in the sense you are saying saying

I wasn't suggesting that the Americas are going to "help" Haiti, I was just saying that increased trade is good for Haiti, and they should start with countries that are nearby

If the AU is Haiti's only hope then haiti is screwed cuz the AU is a pathetic organization, AU does not have a security apparatus, that is absurd

Luckily you don't know what you are talking about and are simply running away with some pathetic exaggerated narrative about Haiti being a hopeless case
Um the type of help that Haiti need is economic..short of having all of their debt forgiven without any strings attached trade is the next best option for the so yes trade is the best "help" for them..And I just posted AU's security apparatus your just choosing to ignore because it doesnt fit your ignorant narrative about the AU being worthless..If the AU is worthless than every global cooperative on earth is worthless including the EU, NATO, G8, NAFTA, etc.

And you say I dont know what im talking about yet you make it seem like Haiti can just waltz into the White House or any other country in the Americas and negotiate a trade deal for their benefit to lift themselves out of debt, spoken like a true yankee yuppie smh Go do your googles before you quote me on this post again :camby:
 

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Um the type of help that Haiti need is economic..short of having all of their debt forgiven without any strings attached trade is the next best option for the so yes trade is the best "help" for them..And I just posted AU's security apparatus your just choosing to ignore because it doesnt fit your ignorant narrative about the AU being worthless..If the AU is worthless than every global cooperative on earth is worthless including the EU, NATO, G8, NAFTA, etc.

And you say I dont know what im talking about yet you make it seem like Haiti can just waltz into the White House or any other country in the Americas and negotiate a trade deal for their benefit to lift themselves out of debt, spoken like a true yankee yuppie smh Go do your googles before you quote me on this post again :camby:

first of all haiti's solutions are in haiti, its not in the outside world, i have never suggested not am i suggesting that the au or anybody else help Haiti, haiti needs to helps itself and haiti needs to get its shyt together

and im not saying its easy to get trade agreements, im just saying trade agreements within countries that are close are more important than trade agreements with african countries

au does not have a security apparatus, your link is just gibberish, that fact that you would take that link seriously just shows your ignorance
 

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I think someone told them not to. I think a lot of them dudes are probably puppets up there anyway. Think about it, Africa would have a hub closer to the western world. Why would they not want that? I'd gain more commercial power, especially using Haiti as a hub for trade.

Think about the kind of economy it would build.
 

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And the AU will never be powerful because they do monkey stuff like this. They don't want to shake up the game, Imagine a continent that big but depends on the Chinese pimping them out.
 
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