After spending enough time amongst Cacs I now realize Trump gets re-elected if we don’t fight back

[Serious]

This NK shyt has ya'll not realizing that there's been a pretty strong press run talking about the concerns of the steel and auto industry and peripheral businesses already seeing negative signs as a result of the trump Tarrifs. They aren't worried about DRK. They never were.

Breh you my dude but you not seeing the being bigger picture here. It's not about being right or politically correct.

All trumpsters need is a genuine talking point about an achievement trump did and it's over. They'll constantly deflect to it, while ignoring a million of things. And you're right they could give shyt about NK, it's just a talking point and they'll deflect to it as deemed necessary. Remember, Trumpsters are the same idiots who vote against their own interest. You really think these trumpsters are paying attention to or even give a shyt about the Mueller investigation? Their motto is still fukk Hilary and that's that.

You can't be or think rationally with people are who irrational.

 

[Serious]

Trump supported him despite his flaws. No one expects him to lose that support. We've been over this a million times.

It's about turnout of liberals and that has been trending upwards. There's nothing to suggest Trump has it made or has won over anyone.

Maybe some liberals aren't as liberal as we think.

I mean most WW did vote for trump.
The Reasons Why White Women Vote Republican—and What to Do About It

 

[Jimmy Two-Times™]

 

[Pressure]

Breh you my dude but you not seeing the being bigger picture here. It's not about being right or politically correct.

All trumpsters need is a genuine talking point about an achievement trump did and it's over. They'll constantly deflect to it, while ignoring a million of things. And you're right they could give shyt about NK, it's just a talking point and they'll deflect to it as deemed necessary. Remember, Trumpsters are the same idiots who vote against their own interest. You really think these trumpsters are paying attention to or even give a shyt about the Mueller investigation? Their motto is still fukk Hilary and that's that.

You can't be or think rationally with people are who irrational.

I dont, but Trump supporters are a decent minority. They aren't winning over voters. They aren't winning over swing voters.

They aren't giving people the things they want.

Trump isn't even 2 years into election and he's been the kiss of death for Republicans across the country.

So let's take a step back. Why are you wasting your time worrying about what irrational Trumpsters want?

Convincing them to be rational has never been a part of plan. Nor was it ever necessary and we can make a strong argument courting those people is the reason why democrats have alienated so much of their base.

 

[Pressure]

Maybe some liberals aren't as liberal as we think.

I mean most WW did vote for trump.
The Reasons Why White Women Vote Republican—and What to Do About It

Turnout.

When turnout is high dems win.

When it's low they lose.

It's pretty much that simple. And a lot of it is for reasons you're alluding to in your metrics.

A lot of them are like @the cac mamba. They're selfish and don't really care if they have to deal with Republicans and racists because that doesn't affect them.

 

[the cac mamba]

Turnout.

When turnout is high dems win.

When it's low they lose.

It's pretty much that simple. And a lot of it is for reasons you're alluding to in your metrics.

A lot of them are like @the cac mamba. They're selfish and don't really care if they have to deal with Republicans and racists because that doesn't affect them.

so you didnt have to deal with republicans and racists under obama?

 

[Pressure]

so you didnt have to deal with republicans and racists under obama?

Sorry cac. We're not letting you dodge these bullets and try and change the topic.

Have you or have you not been open here that you don't care about Trump because it doesn't affect you enough to care?

Yes or no?

 

[Serious]

I dont, but Trump supporters are a decent minority. They aren't winning over voters. They aren't winning over swing voters.

They aren't giving people the things they want.

Trump isn't even 2 years into election and he's been the kiss of death for Republicans across the country.

So let's take a step back. Why are you wasting your time worrying about what irrational Trumpsters want?

Turnout.

When turnout is high dems win.

When it's low they lose.

It's pretty much that simple. And a lot of it is for reasons you're alluding to in your metrics.

A lot of them are like @the cac mamba. They're selfish and don't really care if they have to deal with Republicans and racists because that doesn't affect them.

Convincing them to be rational has never been a part of plan. Nor was it ever necessary and we can make a strong argument courting those people is the reason why democrats have alienated so much of their base.

Look man I hear you and I agree, 110% that the next election comes down to voter turnout, but I'm still not convinced that more people will turn out. I feel like if a massive school shooting where to occur a month or two prior to an election, then that it would be kiss of death for republicans. But time heals all wounds(not really). Even with all the republicans stepping down and not seeking reelection. I'm still not convinced. I'm just saying Americans have selective memory and priorities. I feel this way simply because I'm around people all the time who don't two shyts about what's going on in this country and it's . They can't tell a thing about the mueller investigation or astronomically raising health care exceeding inflation, but they know about what Cardii B, Kim K or Drake just did.

Heck we could have this same discussion in TLR and it would go nowhere. And is a good example of a general population TLR ( it's actually better since most people are college educated / dropouts).


With that said, one thing we know and can expect from trumpsters is that they will be out there voting rain or shine in full force. It doesn't matter that Trump won't ever deliver on shyt to them. Trump standing up to European Leaders and being "tough" on immigration are moral victories within themselves.....

Yo @DEAD7 I need you to go on a soapbox man. Tell these peeps in the thread the shyt you've been hearing man. No fukking smiles

 

[the cac mamba]

Sorry cac. We're not letting you dodge these bullets and try and change the topic.

Have you or have you not been open here that you don't care about Trump because it doesn't affect you enough to care?

Yes or no?

first of all, let's clarify that you keep tagging me. if i didnt know better, id say you find me a pretty compelling poster :jaymad:

the bolded isnt completely true. yeah, its easier for me to ignore President fukkery because im white, and white privilege exists in this country. for me to deny that...well, i just wouldnt. im sorry i spoke frankly

so with that being said, define "it" in the bolded. a lot of shyt has been raised on here that never came to pass where ive been called a piece of shyt because i said i wasn't worried about your speculations. im not gonna give out examples because its not right for me to sit here and downplay your concerns, for the reason you say (unless you want me to)

 

[Pressure]

Look man I hear you and I agree, 110% that the next election comes down to voter turnout, but I'm still not convinced that more people will turn out. I feel like if a massive school shooting where to occur a month or two prior to an election, then that it would be kiss of death for republicans. But time heals all wounds(not really). Even with all the republicans stepping down and not seeking reelection. I'm still not convinced. I'm just saying Americans have selective memory and priorities. I feel this way simply because I'm already people all the time who don't two shyts about what's going on in this country and it's
Heck we could have this same discussion in TLR and it would go nowhere. And is a good example of a general population TLR ( it's actually better since most people are college educated / dropouts).


With that said, one thing we know and can expect from trumpsters is that they will be out there voting rain or shine in full force. It doesn't matter that Trump won't ever deliver on shyt to them. Trump standing up to European Leaders and being "tough" on immigration are moral victories within themselves.....

Yo @DEAD7 I need you to go on a soapbox man. Tell these peeps in the thread the shyt you've been hearing man. No fukking smiles

TLR is real life. Most of those cats don't vote. The same with a lot of the loudest people you here.

They aren't worth the stress.

Conservatives vote more often than liberals. That's why they have control of government. They also aren't driven by morality, which it why they come across cult like.

My ultimate point is, there's no point in discussing what they do because everyone knows their stance and the people you're courting don't see that as enough motivation (even though they should) to vote - - something republicans do.

But we don't need to talk past one another.

 

[Pressure]

first of all, let's clarify that you keep tagging me. if i didnt know better, id say you find me a pretty compelling poster :jaymad:

the bolded isnt completely true. yeah, its easier for me to ignore President fukkery because im white, and white privilege exists in this country. for me to deny that...well, i just wouldnt. im sorry i spoke frankly

so with that being said, define "it" in the bolded. a lot of shyt has been raised on here that never came to pass where ive been called a piece of shyt because i said i wasn't worried about your speculations. im not gonna give out examples because its not right for me to sit here and downplay your concerns, for the reason you say (unless you want me to)

Still waiting for you to talk about what's your platform. Because all you do is down play and carry water for conservatives.

I ultimately believe you come here to make jokes about black folks.

I really haven't seen you say anything of substance in any sub on any topic.

 

[the cac mamba]

Still waiting for you to talk about what's your platform. Because all you do is down play and carry water for conservatives.

I ultimately believe you come here to make jokes about black folks.

I really haven't seen you say anything of substance in any sub on any topic.

what am i, running a fukkin campaign? im pretty sure i wouldnt have your vote

it would be shorter for you to post YOUR platform, and since i agree with you on more issues than not, ill tell you what we dont agree on

that last sentence is pretty considering that "substance" in here is posting someone else's ideas in a tweet

 

[Pressure]

what am i, running a fukkin campaign? im pretty sure i wouldnt have your vote

it would be shorter for you to post YOUR platform, and since i agree with you on more issues than not, ill tell you what we dont agree on

that last sentence is pretty considering that "substance" in here is posting someone else's ideas in a tweet

Why do you end every post attempting to deflect to what someone else does?

 

[Broke Wave]

Edit : Not Much less people voted for Hilldog than did for Obama the second time he went.

That being said it was still a horrible turnout.

The way that Democrats can rig the game and win forever is to make Election Day a holiday and a paid federal holiday. If they could also trickle that down to the state level it would be an absolute wrizzap.

 

[Serious]

43 percent didn’t vote

Honestly I don’t wanna say it but some more school shootings will sink the rethugs and trump. Nov is very important, dems need to be the majority

lowkey this recently crossed my mind as well.

Just imagine if a Parkland or Sante Fe shooting happened before an election.

Republicans would be

Sadly I know too many people who buy into the good guy with a gun scenario....

Thus will continue to go right overall.