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Curry singlehandedly made UA basketball relevant. Dwyane wade getting mad overseas paper with li ning


Personally, I think the curry thing was pr and all distributor sales and not real actual relevent sales at retail.
that can be attributed to a real urban landscape changing boom.
If anything i feel it spiked in the grade b resale market because of the original sales spike of ua in discount retail stores that brought them to the dance mainstream wise via football cheap outfitting and apparel.


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The sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, twenty and twenty one PE all flew off the shelf out in the chi.
Plus get their love.
You not from chicago to say that cause they had a wage.
Even the Citron xi's had a wave in the chi and hypebeast front on them.

Where you from?

I was born in chi but let's just say I live in a different part of the country :mjpls:

The absolute worst part of the line. I did have the 16 (still like), 17 Low, 18 (which I love) and 19 (most comfy j ever) though :lolbron:. the 20s are still hideous even if the patent on the stealths is nice and the 21s were wack.


At least here there was no flying off the shelves back then . The sneaker game didn't have crazy hype it did these days, you could just wake up and go to the store and be the only one when it opened. I remember going to the store the day the 17s came out and moms offered to cop em for me and I said nah cuz they were wack.
 

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Personally, I think the curry thing was pr and all distributor sales and not real actual relevent sales at retail.
that can be attributed to a real urban landscape changing boom.
If anything i feel it spiked in the grade b resale market because of the original sales spike of ua in discount retail stores that brought them to the dance mainstream wise via football cheap outfitting and apparel.


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Thats how UA started out, but Curry made people check for their basketball division, what really happened is that the curry 1 and 2 was fire, but they dropped the curry 2 lows and it got bad publicity, then the curry 3 dropped, the design on it was trash

Just look at the dropoff between the 2 and the 3.

under-armour-curry-back-to-back-mvp-pack-release-info-3.jpg


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It was kids who were buying the currys to begin with. He won a chip in the 1, had one of the best seasons ever in the 2. Kyrie hits the game 7 shot on him and curry gets clowned and becomes uncool to them, kids started wearing kyries. And now his shoes get clowned on twitter, so it all became a domino effect that led to hos sales falling off
 

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Going back to the 90s, it was definitely Penny with the lil Penny commercials and different models of his shoes but once he started getting hurt, his brand suffered.

But to me the most successful post Nike/jb was AI with his question 1 and different models as well.

Because of nostalgia and hypebeast JB has made over 500 million in shoe sales since his retirement strictly off of retro's. His retros went from a performance shoe to a lifestyle show. His new models since maybe the 17s haven't been able to do that.

People say Yeezys are surpassing JB. In some ways yes because now in the sneaker game EVERYBODY is a reseller. Teenage kids are paying $900 resell on yeezys because that's where the hype is. With JB it's just certain models of the retro 1's these days.

In 3-5 yrs the whole show game will be a fad. Companies like NIKE/JB and Adidas will flood the market even more and up their production numbers because they are loosing so much money with resell and consignment shops. JB has already started that strategy and I saw it with the latest yeezy release of the V2 creams.

Maybe the culture can back to people actually copping to wear versus trying to flip for a profit..
 

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APPARENTLY THOSE UGLY ASS FOAMPOSITES ARE THE shyt IN THIS ERA.

I DONT REMEMBER EVER SEEING ANYONE ROCKING THOSE shytS IN THE 90S.

THREAD IS ON POINT.

HILL & A.I. DID HAVE THE LANE OUTSIDE OF MJ.
:devil:
:evil:

Cost too much back in the days... Only hustlers on my block had them

nikkaz wasn't copping kicks for 180 bucks back in 96 and they were very limited....Always wanted them shyts back in The days but my pops would never dropped that on kicks for me back in the days
 

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I was born in chi but let's just say I live in a different part of the country :mjpls:

The absolute worst part of the line. I did have the 16 (still like), 17 Low, 18 (which I love) and 19 (most comfy j ever) though :lolbron:. the 20s are still hideous even if the patent on the stealths is nice and the 21s were wack.


At least here there was no flying off the shelves back then . The sneaker game didn't have crazy hype it did these days, you could just wake up and go to the store and be the only one when it opened. I remember going to the store the day the 17s came out and moms offered to cop em for me and I said nah cuz they were wack.


Where you from nikka,...out south or out west?

The sixteen did not sit period cause that was the evolution of the xi with a batman cowl.
The original briefcase seventeen did not sit and that was a huge news story becauee of the up in price point and the extras.
Not to mention his comeback shoe.
You self equated your dislike of the shoe, but that shoe was a frenzy before the plus dropped.
The seventeen plus did not sit on the shelf, that was the first PE offered ever.
for standard consumer consumption and used to be off the charts resale wise.
You could not find that shoe.
It had crocodile breh,....you can not be serious and cosmetically it is one of the coldest silhouettes in jordan history too.
The eighteen with the shoe guard in leather or suede did not sit.
The nineteen in white/grey, and bred did not sit.
the twenty did not sit even in that wild cheetos color.
The original xx id's which were not called the stealth then did not sit.
The twenty one and twenty two PE you could find in just one store in chicago.
from cityscape to basketball leather twenty two.
which was a great shoe did not sit.
Those original red Toro xxi's did not sit and they were kinda ugly too.
I remember kickin myself like man I should cop those black xxii and that xxi PE in bulk from citysports but this was before hype beasting.
Yet i was on my bron shyt then and copped a bron iii.
that was ds instead then from Champs.
which was at city sports on 71st and chappel.
Which had shoes because that shyt is wild for an outsider to visit.
Alternatively the footlocker back on the one then.
did not still have any of those shoes, sitting.

Only shelf that had any of those jordan's was select city sports on 71st and 91st on the south side.
Sometimes Tony sports but tony fell off in their expansion to Hyde park.
out west I never saw a live pair at anywhere that was a hidden gem spot.
Up north white cats ate those and they did not sit.

Bron's sat, other guys shoes sat in the chi.
jordan did not sit like that at all.
Even those glossy xxii's moved originally when they dropped.
The other colorways did not pop but the original moved too.
To the point I remember every time they dropped and being with someone who lost cause they did not wanna grind and put in work to cop.

Only jordan I went with someone late after the sweetspot to get the shoes on release day was the maroon fifteen low. Which we had to go all the way out to lincoln mall and this was when it was just becoming a dead mall.
Even the first stock of retros flew.
the restock of retros sat back then.
All cause of the change of the quality from the og's cosmetically from jordan brand from nike.
Plus nike did not have their supply number set up right to drum up interest how they do now.
In that era it became a bit easy to get retros but that was because of quality.
eventually nike followed suit and up'd game a decade ago on retros.
In chicago nikkaz used to give no love for other shoes if you was not a big time jordan guy, first.
which was mostly people from good homes.
Older gen jordan fans with a good job.
or so hood they had it on lock and could and afford those style releases like the beginning of the crack era in 86-88.
In hiphop, you had to be a real dem dare associated lo head.
to be looked at and associated as cold for jordans.
to the point guys like John John monopoly.
In the culture is where fringe shoes got love.
In the hood, nikkaz was not feeling anything outside of jordan's first and then everything else comes completely after.
Sometimes out west and out south vanity stores that had jordan's did not carry other endorsed shoes cause they would sit. You would have to go up north to a vanity store to get an Agassi or a new nike endorsee.
Anybody not jordan or Bo at the least in chicago.
originally, in Chicago certain guys were viewed as fringe guys.
till tone gave John John light with otis's.
John John was john john monopoly but,...don c, happy and ye all come from that fringe of euphonics fringe wannabe jiggy shyt back then. That was damn near taboo, but tone connection to John John gave don c happy and ye a pass.
Which is why back then ye looks out of place in hood gear.
Simply cause he had to work his way back to cultural acceptance after going jiggy and getting dissed by common.


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Thats how UA started out, but Curry made people check for their basketball division, what really happened is that the curry 1 and 2 was fire, but they dropped the curry 2 lows and it got bad publicity, then the curry 3 dropped, the design on it was trash

Just look at the dropoff between the 2 and the 3.

under-armour-curry-back-to-back-mvp-pack-release-info-3.jpg


under-armour-curry-3-davidson-red-grey-1-323x215.jpg


It was kids who were buying the currys to begin with. He won a chip in the 1, had one of the best seasons ever in the 2. Kyrie hits the game 7 shot on him and curry gets clowned and becomes uncool to them, kids started wearing kyries. And now his shoes get clowned on twitter, so it all became a domino effect that led to hos sales falling off


The curry should have never left that vented flywire style nike knock off material.
As real talk, when nike went away from that to keep up with the whole knit wave.
[Case in point the fire durant four's]
UA should have kept going with it.
I think that hurt the cosmetic of the curry.
as it had no real foundation cosmetically.
As it was built off the flywire lebron championship level design era shoes.
When the world finally discovered bron made basketball shoes for the past eight years.

They should have studied fila and just did what fila did and went back to their design roots with the knock off fly wire knit shoe design.
The same Way fila went back to their shoe using the jordan ix as its cosmetic era base to start.
Plus when hill moved to the Jason kid looking fila on the three.
It did not pop like the og hill I but they went right back to the jordan ix knockoff design on the hill four.
As its foundation in design.


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Foams were the shyt straight out the gate uptown, I can't speak for the rest of NYC because they be on some different ish.
shoutout BX :myman:

NYC brehs stayed clowning DC guys for wearing basketball shoes (jordans were exempt obviously) as fashion, especially foams

but bronx always done their own thing, so this doesnt surprise me. my favorite boro up there :salute:
 

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Curry singlehandedly made UA basketball relevant. Dwyane wade getting mad overseas paper with li ning


I have yet to see anyone in those, ever.

If I could find the clip of survivor's remorse.
Where cam wears those air bao's and it turns into an episode of the Anthony bonner shoe show.
That would sum up, dwade at li ning.
D wade does not understand branding to the point.
He could ruin his perception as a ballplayer with those shoes.
Not to mention, do them li ning shyts have adequate cushioning.
all cause d wade hobbles ever since he started wearing those.


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