AFTER THE AIR JORDAN

FlyRy

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The sixteen did not sit period cause that was the evolution of the xi with a batman cowl.
The original briefcase seventeen did not sit and that was a huge news story becauee of the up in price point and the extras.
Not to mention his comeback shoe.
You self equated your dislike of the shoe, but that shoe was a frenzy before the plus dropped.
The seventeen plus did not sit on the shelf, that was the first PE offered ever.
for standard consumer consumption and used to be off the charts resale wise.
You could not find that shoe.
It had crocodile breh,....you can not be serious and cosmetically it is one of the coldest silhouettes in jordan history too.
The eighteen with the shoe guard in leather or suede did not sit.
The nineteen in white/grey, and bred did not sit.
the twenty did not sit even in that wild cheetos color.
The original xx id's which were not called the stealth then did not sit.
The twenty one and twenty two PE you could find in just one store in chicago.
from cityscape to basketball leather twenty two.
which was a great shoe did not sit.
Those original red Toro xxi's did not sit and they were kinda ugly too.
I remember kickin myself like man I should cop those black xxii and that xxi PE in bulk from citysports but this was before hype beasting.
Yet i was on my bron shyt then and copped a bron iii.
that was ds instead then from Champs.
which was at city sports on 71st and chappel.
Which had shoes because that shyt is wild for an outsider to visit.
Alternatively the footlocker back on the one then.
did not still have any of those shoes, sitting.

Only shelf that had any of those jordan's was select city sports on 71st and 91st on the south side.
Sometimes Tony sports but tony fell off in their expansion to Hyde park.
out west I never saw a live pair at anywhere that was a hidden gem spot.
Up north white cats ate those and they did not sit.

Bron's sat, other guys shoes sat in the chi.
jordan did not sit like that at all.
Even those glossy xxii's moved originally when they dropped.
The other colorways did not pop but the original moved too.
To the point I remember every time they dropped and being with someone who lost cause they did not wanna grind and put in work to cop.

Only jordan I went with someone late after the sweetspot to get the shoes on release day was the maroon fifteen low. Which we had to go all the way out to lincoln mall and this was when it was just becoming a dead mall.
Even the first stock of retros flew.
the restock of retros sat back then.
All cause of the change of the quality from the og's cosmetically from jordan brand from nike.
Plus nike did not have their supply number set up right to drum up interest how they do now.
In that era it became a bit easy to get retros but that was because of quality.
eventually nike followed suit and up'd game a decade ago on retros.
In chicago nikkaz used to give no love for other shoes if you was not a big time jordan guy, first.
which was mostly people from good homes.
Older gen jordan fans with a good job.
or so hood they had it on lock and could and afford those style releases like the beginning of the crack era in 86-88.
In hiphop, you had to be a real dem dare associated lo head.
to be looked at and associated as cold for jordans.
to the point guys like John John monopoly.
In the culture is where fringe shoes got love.
In the hood, nikkaz was not feeling anything outside of jordan's first and then everything else comes completely after.
Sometimes out west and out south vanity stores that had jordan's did not carry other endorsed shoes cause they would sit. You would have to go up north to a vanity store to get an Agassi or a new nike endorsee.
Anybody not jordan or Bo at the least in chicago.
originally, in Chicago certain guys were viewed as fringe guys.
till tone gave John John light with otis's.
John John was john john monopoly but,...don c, happy and ye all come from that fringe of euphonics fringe wannabe jiggy shyt back then. That was damn near taboo, but tone connection to John John gave don c happy and ye a pass.
Which is why back then ye looks out of place in hood gear.
Simply cause he had to work his way back to cultural acceptance after going jiggy and getting dissed by common.


Art Barr
thanks for the dissertation..but again if these shoes were so hot and loved, why have none of them ever retroed besides the 17 mid + with the crocodile skin that you mentioned? And that took 14 years to happen.

Yes the shoes were still selling because they were jordans but 16-22 is the red headed stepchild of the entire line . even nike knows that with their reluctance to retro them.

But the shoe game wasn't nearly as crazy back then as it is now.. though I think the nike bubble may have finally burst as the hypebeasts all switched to adidas.
 

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thanks for the dissertation..but again if these shoes were so hot and loved, why have none of them ever retroed besides the 17 mid + with the crocodile skin that you mentioned? And that took 14 years to happen.

Yes the shoes were still selling because they were jordans but 16-22 is the red headed stepchild of the entire line . even nike knows that with their reluctance to retro them.

But the shoe game wasn't nearly as crazy back then as it is now.. though I think the nike bubble may have finally burst as the hypebeasts all switched to adidas.


Answer the first question, what side of the city are you from?


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Answer the first question, what side of the city are you from?


Art Barr
I was only born there I never grew up there.

Don't see how it's relevant. Your hood in Chicago doesn't represent the whole country.
 

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you gonna do numbers with thread. i remember the fila days. times were much simpler back then. it was popular because grant hill was a good ball player. dude had class.
 

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Foams were strictly a DC thing before Nike started making shoes limited and created the resell hype environment.

No one outside of DC rocked foams until those Galaxies were made limited.

My mom moved out to Cali my sophomore year and I remember the Cali nikkas clowning my foams calling em' moon boots when I first got there. In DC they were a staple.
 

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Ewing Adidas & Ewing Athletics brand sneakers were popular in some places and sold very well.

I also think marketing has a major part of of why Nike endorsed sneakers do so well. They go after the best players and then they advertise the shoe everywhere.
 

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I say Iverson simply because of this shoe

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Aside from those J's that came in the suitcase (17s I think) nikkas went crazy over these. The best non Nike basketball shoe of my lifetime

Hate them joints, but I ain't go lie nikkaz had these. Females and males.

I had Questions.
 

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:mjlol:Breh absolutely no one was going crazy over the 17 highs. Why do you think they never retroed on their own after 15 years?

Those iversons are another story.

I wanted the blue ones back then but they sold out. I had to settle for some all white and silver lows. Best believe I copped the blue toe retros when they came out again 4 or 5 years ago

shyt nikkas around my way was thirsty for those.

This when nikkas would bring Eastbau mags to school. You was a hot boy for the day if you had the new one. The day we saw those in there it was on. I only remember about 3 ppl really getting them but everybody got those Answer 4s. Even in that ugly ass red and grey

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Thats how UA started out, but Curry made people check for their basketball division, what really happened is that the curry 1 and 2 was fire, but they dropped the curry 2 lows and it got bad publicity, then the curry 3 dropped, the design on it was trash

Just look at the dropoff between the 2 and the 3.

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It was kids who were buying the currys to begin with. He won a chip in the 1, had one of the best seasons ever in the 2. Kyrie hits the game 7 shot on him and curry gets clowned and becomes uncool to them, kids started wearing kyries. And now his shoes get clowned on twitter, so it all became a domino effect that led to hos sales falling off
I agree with most of it but the Kyries always sold because they are cheap esp for a signature sneaker nowadays. I personally think the 2's are the only decent Kyries the rest Ass. I just think the Curry 3 ass and if they were halfway decent looking they would sell like the first two did since Curry still popular with the kids
 

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thanks for the dissertation..but again if these shoes were so hot and loved, why have none of them ever retroed besides the 17 mid + with the crocodile skin that you mentioned? And that took 14 years to happen.

Yes the shoes were still selling because they were jordans but 16-22 is the red headed stepchild of the entire line . even nike knows that with their reluctance to retro them.

But the shoe game wasn't nearly as crazy back then as it is now.. though I think the nike bubble may have finally burst as the hypebeasts all switched to adidas.
What are you talked my about fam? Most of them Jays have retroed recently? You been locked up? They just been in them stupid packs. The 16 came out recently though.
 
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