After the Ancient Egyptians. Are African Americans the most influential Africans Ever

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America = dominant global hegemony = Black American culture is a disproportionally large part of American culture thus CURRENTLY, I'd have to say this is true.

Not really about to compare a modern empire to one that existed 1000 years ago :heh:
 

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They traded with Berbers, Arabs and even Southern Europeans.

Again like I said Western Sudanic empires AKA Ghana, Mali and Songhai had a MONOPOLY on gold during the medieval era. Malian gold first entered into Italy and then into the rest of Europe.




Agreed.
Western Sudanic? :what:
 

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Yes but who traded with them?

Also, south american blacks have shaped latin culture. People keep talking about western culture like it's the only culture on earth. :heh:

I hate blanket statements like the one OP is making... there is so much wrong with what he's saying but I like the general idea of what he's saying.

It's tricky.

Anyway, Ancient Egypt as we know it lasted from about 3100BC till 30BC. That means that Cleopatra lived closer to today than she did to the construction of the Pyramids. That means someone who lived in the Late period would go to Luxor and be like "wow these are great historical artifacts". People who lived in Ancient Egypt saw the Pyramids as great historical artifacts. Egyptian history is longer than World recorded history without Egypt. So you can see why I think OP's claim is... outlandish to say the least...he's not talking about just 1 group of Africans but like, every single group of Africans and Middle Easteners and even cacs. Hell Asians and Indians we're there too, it was literally world history amalgamated onto 1 river.

But to the points about influence, there is volume influence and there is a tangible influence. By volume, Michael Jackson may have been the most popular and influential musician ever but he wasn't more influential than Mozart according to musicians. 2pac is one of the most influencial people in history by volume but historically he didn't influence more than say Toussaint. Mao was by volume the most powerful person who ever lived but didn't even crack the top 10 in terms of real power.

It's all about perspective friends. If you use different microscopes and lenses we can see things from closer or further and get a better picture :ohhh:
 

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Thats what it was called. West Sudan= basically Upper West Africa. Or the Sahel. "Sudan" means land of blacks by Arabs.
You realise that Sudan is located in EAST africa right? I have never heard people from Chad call themselves west sudanese, in fact that would be considered an insult.
 

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Jacked this from a site, but it's worth reading. Us African-Americans haven't done shyt. Sure, we've had great cultural impact on the world....but political influence is where the real power is at, and compared to the accomplishments below we haven't done anything to match....yet. Use this to motivate you to achieve black excellence. Our people don't come from a broken past, as the western world makes it appear so. We come from great nations, and it's time we re-establish black excellence and political influence.


Black rulership of the Roman Empire begins in 193 A.D. with African born, Roman Emperor Septimus Severus. There were four other Black emperors after the Severus dynasty.

Hannibal, the father of military strategy, performed the astounding feat of crossing the Alps on elephants in 218 B.C. With only 26,000 of his original force of 82,000 troops remaining, Hannibal defeated Rome, the mightiest military power of the age, who had a million men, in every battle for the next fifteen years. His tactics are still taught in leading military academies of the U.S., Europe & other lands.

Black ruler ship was widespread in Europe during the “Dark” & Middle Ages!

The original “knights” of England were Black! --including the knights of King Arthur’s Round Table! That’s why they were called “knights” after the night or darkness of their skin.

An African king named Gormund ruled Ireland during the Anglo-Saxon period in England reports the medieval historian Geoffrey of Monmouth.

Halfdan the Black was the first Africoid king to unite Norway.

When the British Isles were invaded by the Vikings some of these Norse raiders were Africoid. In fact, different varieties of ‘Viking’ Africans lived in Scandinavia during the middle ages and are frequently mentioned in Viking sagas.

There were Black Huns! The dictionary describes the Huns as “a fierce barbaric race of Asiatic nomads who led by Attila, ravaged Europe I the 4th and 5th centuries A.D.” The Gothic writer Jordannes described their infamous leader, Attila the Hun as having “a flat nose and swarthy complexion.” He describes the types of Huns he had seen as “of dark complexion, almost black... broad shoulder, flat noses and small eyes.”

The African Moors dominated southwest Europe during the Middle Ages for 700 years: 711-1492 A.D. African Moors ruling southwest Europe centuries, darkened whites in this area, especially Portal, which was “the first example of a Negrito (African) republic in Europe."

Moors ruling Scotland in the 10th century mixed with whites until the black skin color disappeared.

Black Celts (Silures) & Black Vikings vexed with the Scandinavia people. A prominent Viking of the eleventh century was Thorhall, who was aboard the ship that carried the early Vikings to the shores of North America. Thorhall was "the huntsman in summer and in winter the steward of Eric the Red. He was a large man and strong, black, and like a giant, silent, and foul-mouthed in his speech, and always egged on Eric to the worst.
 

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I hate blanket statements like the one OP is making... there is so much wrong with what he's saying but I like the general idea of what he's saying.

It's tricky.

Anyway, Ancient Egypt as we know it lasted from about 3100BC till 30BC. That means that Cleopatra lived closer to today than she did to the construction of the Pyramids. That means someone who lived in the Late period would go to Luxor and be like "wow these are great historical artifacts". People who lived in Ancient Egypt saw the Pyramids as great historical artifacts. Egyptian history is longer than World recorded history without Egypt. So you can see why I think OP's claim is... outlandish to say the least...he's not talking about just 1 group of Africans but like, every single group of Africans and Middle Easteners and even cacs. Hell Asians and Indians we're there too, it was literally world history amalgamated onto 1 river.

But to the points about influence, there is volume influence and there is a tangible influence. By volume, Michael Jackson may have been the most popular and influential musician ever but he wasn't more influential than Mozart according to musicians. 2pac is one of the most influencial people in history by volume but historically he didn't influence more than say Toussaint. Mao was by volume the most powerful person who ever lived but didn't even crack the top 10 in terms of real power.

It's all about perspective friends. If you use different microscopes and lenses we can see things from closer or further and get a better picture :ohhh:
I think it's the Moors. The Moors assisted Europe with oceanic navigation, trade and slave routes, and to some extent colonialism. These things have had a MASSIVE impact on the world, in more ways than one. One greater than music itself.
 

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IMO the Ancient Kushytes were the most influential black people. They literally SAVED modern day religion.

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And King Taharqa is also mentioned many times in the Bible.
 

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if you're talking about cultural impact then agree but If (lets say for example) Brazil had The same Media conglomerates/Global reach and America didn't, then that probably wouldn't be the case...
 

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You realise that Sudan is located in EAST africa right? I have never heard people from Chad call themselves west sudanese, in fact that would be considered an insult.

Dios mio! Terms mean different things in different periods! Ethiopian by the Greeks meant BURNT skin but now its the name of a country. It Western Sudan/Sudanic is a OLD TERM used during the MEDIEVAL TIMES.

@Poitier I already see you ninja'ed me to it.
 
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Are inventions and influence is everywhere from korea to Russia to the uk and back. No other african culture can say that
What inventions and influence of yours are to be found in Korea (both Koreas?) and Russia?

The cac hero Edison wouldnt be shyt without us.

Explain.

Anyway. Others have mentioned several cultures ignored by the OP; I'll tender another: Ethiopian.
 

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What do you mean cacs? Thats an Arabic/black term. Sudan means land of blacks. White people did not make the term.
I don't know any ghanians who consider themselves west sudanese. Ghanians have no word sudan in their language. :wtf:
 
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