Agents Are Among Us!!!! The Suppresion Of Knowledge/Info Is Happening!!!
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iFightSeagullsForBread
The Working Class Hero
the majority of the influences came from us
it wasn't no 50/50 thing
So uhm, tell me where did Bambatta get his influence from Planet Rock from then?
can you get your agument straight here before I entertain you any further?
are we talking about the creation or influences after hip hop was created
No wonder I feel aggressive and crazy when I listen to Nine Inch Nails.
rap was my gateway drug and then i started listening to nin and other industrial music and i killed god, now the only thing i believe in is the futility of being
damn, music really does make you crazy
iFightSeagullsForBread
The Working Class Hero
can you get your agument straight here before I entertain you any further?
are we talking about the creation or influences after hip hop was created
You stated that I'm discrediting hip-hop from being invented by black people.
I originally stated, that TECHNICALLY black people "hijacked" the genre from Jamaicans aka Kool Herc. If we're gonna be serious about his conversation.
Of course this is all under the premise under the idea that hip-hop has been hijacked in the first place as if a music genre belongs to a group of people, which low and behold it actually doesn't when you look at it from a wider view.
ah I thought that's what you were getting at
I'm not about to waste my time and argue with you about this.
iFightSeagullsForBread
The Working Class Hero
ah I thought that's what you were getting at
I'm not about to waste my time and argue with you about this.
Because you can't do it, that's why, you lack the logic and ability to engage the conversation, and ironically enough you won't even allow yourself to expound upon and strengthen your own beliefs on the topic.
And again, if you think that's the entire conclusion to that statement, it's you I'd be wasting time with arguing.
Blackout
just your usual nerdy brotha
Werd I should of done that.ah I thought that's what you were getting at
I'm not about to waste my time and argue with you about this.
I should of known better when he said that black people "hijacked" hip hop from black people.
As if Kool Herc isn't regarded as the one who gave birth to hip hop lol.
I'm not qualified to speak on it I can admit that but at least I know and can admit it. you out here speaking in absolutes like a dummy
saying we jacked rapping from Jamaicans
I'll put it like this...HipHop as a culture from it's start was basically always aesthetically and culturally based in AfroAmerican traditions from rapping (Jive Talk, The Dozens, Hokum Blues, Jazzoetry), HipHop Dance (Jazz Dance and then later Soul/Funk dance) and Graff (Dudes from Philly in the mid 1960's). This is the source for what later became HipHop. Now as I pointed out before people of West Indian descent like Herc played a roll in the early HipHop jams for sure but I can't say he created anything new. The evidence doesn't support it.
Im not really trying to discredit Herc. Infact, I give him credit for being aware that his crowd wanted to hear Funky songs and observing that many people in his crowd would start bugging out/dancing during the parts where the singing dropped out and all you heard was the Funky drumming parts. By him noticing that, he helped initiate ONLY GOING TO THE BREAK PARTS. I can't give him credit for discovering the idea of knowing about the "Break" because Disco DJ's were already doing this, they just didn't dwell on it. Now, I can't five credit to Herc for the art of rapping because we know for a fact that syncopated rhyming to the beat was already being done by Disco DJ's around 1970 and 1971 outside the Bronx. That didn't come into play in the Herc scene to about 1976/1977. To go further back, the syncopated rhyming to a beat had been going on way back since the 1920's/1930's. Songs with true Funk beats were being made pre-HipHop since the 1960's. Herc says he never rapped in the syncopated rhyming form and numerous people that attended his park jams also attest that he didn't. Yet, people keep trying to link the art of rapping to Jamaica through Herc
Grandmaster Flash on Herc:
"His style was basically freelance talking"
Everything Baambatta cites in the last paragraph for the roots of rapping is AfroAmerican in origin
The D-List Vet
Being in a recommendation system.
_Anghellic_ negged you for your post in the thread challenge: make an ACTUAL POINT, supporting the ideologies of the civil rights movement.. With the following comment: Finish Highschool and get off welfare fukking lazy ******
Crine you made as shyt you lil fakkit.
LSA troll down talking another black person.
(I'm in the Navy BTW)
@mrken12 we have another Agent who is in the greenblack people need to be made aware of places and websites where knowledge relevant to them is. also there is news catered to black people for entertainment but not for general life and i think there should be some sort of news site or channel catered to black people.
iFightSeagullsForBread
The Working Class Hero
I'm not qualified to speak on it I can admit that but at least I know and can admit it. you out here speaking in absolutes like a dummy
saying we jacked rapping from Jamaicans
nikka, I'm talking about entire sound as a whole, you're cherry picking your argument. Quoting someone elses argument doesn't make you smarter.
Here's my conclusion to this pointless, sensationalist back and forth, you might learn something.
Breh.. The origin of hip hop was Kool Herc djing .... When Kool
Herc was doing parties and setting the foundations, he wasn't looping fukking kraftwerk, lol. He was looping James brown, funk, soul.