Agents of top draft picks are keeping players from working out with the Celtics and Kings

[ISO]

Why would you not want to be on a contender with a system and a culture? Isn't that exactly what a young player needs?

Coming off the bench is one thing. nikkas are talking about cats not even getting into the rotation and not even being competitive in regards to getting a spot or some clock. I don't see how that can entertain such a thought with a guy you are pushing as the top pick.

Dog, he's the number one overall pick he said he wanted to be MVP next year, these kids have huge egos. They want to compete for RoY and they want to be starters out the gate. No number one overall pick wants to come off the bench. It's up to him to embrace his role and work hard and be ready for his come up down the line.

Well, I think he'll be in the rotation. Fultz can easily take Terry Rozier's role (74 games, 17 minutes per) and get some of Smart's minutes (79 games, 30 minutes off the bench). I think he'll be a 20-25 minute guy in a scoring role off the bench, probably get some spot starts as Bradley has never played an entire season and Stevens will likely look to rest guys. If he's absolutely killing it in his role, the Celtics will likely make a trade during the season.

 

[FTBS]

Dog, he's the number one overall pick he said he wanted to be MVP next year, these kids have huge egos. They want to compete for RoY and they want to be starters out the gate. No number one overall pick wants to come off the bench. It's up to him to embrace his role and work hard and be ready for his come up down the line.

Well, I think he'll be in the rotation. Fultz can easily take Terry Rozier's role (74 games, 17 minutes per) and get some of Smart's minutes (79 games, 30 minutes off the bench). I think he'll be a 20-25 minute guy in a scoring role off the bench, probably get some spot starts as Bradley has never played an entire season and Stevens will likely look to rest guys. If he's absolutely killing it in his role, the Celtics will likely make a trade during the season.

Breh you didn't answer my question. None of that explains why culture and system and contending are negatives.

If you got a huge ego that means you think you can beat out Marcus Smart or pretty much any Celtic other than IT and if we being real you should be looking at him like if you are truly all that.

 

[Cynic]

Damn, did his face get the Soundgarden "Black Hole Sun" treatment?????

won't you come ?:getmarriedbrehs:

 

[str8up]

@FTBS

No, Smart wouldn't go #1 in this draft. The same reason other guys his age who are skilled fall out of the lottery and even the first round.

Teams are so used to developing young guys that they see a 23 or 24 year old college player and assume he's already reached his ceiling for the most part.

Players are not rewarded for staying in college, it almost never helps to stay another year.

 

[FTBS]

@FTBS

No, Smart wouldn't go #1 in this draft. The same reason other guys his age who are skilled fall out of the lottery and even the first round.

Teams are so used to developing young guys that they see a 23 or 24 year old college player and assume he's already reached his ceiling for the most part.

Players are not rewarded for staying in college, it almost never helps to stay another year.

Exactly. So why would the person who will be afraid to compete with him? There is no way to rationalize this shyt. A potential top pick should not be afraid of competition and expectations and pressure to win.

 

[str8up]

Exactly. So why would the person who will be afraid to compete with him? There is no way to rationalize this shyt. A potential top pick should not be afraid of competition and expectations and pressure to win.

Smart wouldn't go number 1 just because of his age, and again it's not the top picks who are "afraid" of competing with him.

Marcus would likely go top 10 this year, and in the lottery for certain as a 23 year old with his skill level.

These prospects are not afraid to compete, it is just if they do beat someone out they're not getting the minutes needed to develop still.

 

[tremonthustler1]

Harrison Barnes just got a max contract after shytting the bed in the Finals, as a role player. James Harden got a max contract after shytting the bed in the finals as a 6th man. Chandler Parsons just keeps getting paid . Getting a max deal isn't that hard. Them shyts get passed out like candy. How do you tell teams that your client is the franchise changer that can lead them into a new era out of one side of your mouth and then act in a way that demonstrates you don't think your client is capable of beating out solid NBA players?



Would Marcus Smart go #1 in this draft? I'm not talking straight out of college. I'm talking if he was allowed to enter the draft right now.





The standards for number 1 overall picks are this low now? We don't expect them to be able or even willing to compete with good players?

You're missing the point. You can compete all you want, but if I'm behind a player on a big time contract or a player that was in my position a year or two earlier, by default you'll be behind. On top of that, a lot of these players essentially play for 3 coaches in 3 years theoretically (senior year HS, freshman year college, rookie year NBA. Incoming players want stability. How is that accomplished if I get drafted to a team knowing damn well I can get shipped out any minute? If an agent can avoid that, he'll try and if an agent of a rookie happens to be an agent of an established player already on that team, the GM will acquiesce.

If you think there's competition to be had at the top of these rosters with players being given a full commitment, the league doesn't work that way. Sometimes the "competition" is a pointless one.

 

[tremonthustler1]

If you guys get Hayward, I'd trade that player selected with the Boston pick and the '18 Nets pick for Goebert. Doing such moves wouldn't make the C's a huge juggernaut, but that depth and defense will give Boston a legit shot to win a title.

Utah just gave Gobert $100 mil. They have zero reason to do that, let alone donate Gobert to the team that just signed their best player.

 

[FTBS]

Smart wouldn't go number 1 just because of his age, and again it's not the top picks who are "afraid" of competing with him.

Marcus would likely go top 10 this year, and in the lottery for certain as a 23 year old with his skill level.

These prospects are not afraid to compete, it is just if they do beat someone out they're not getting the minutes needed to develop still.

He wouldn't go number 1 because of what he brings to the table not his age. A 28 year old KD or Steph would get taken number 1 overall right now. shyt a 32 year old Bron would. These are the guys you are expecting to measure a number 1 guy against, not Smart or Olynyk. If you are drafted that high and you prove yourself as ready (which is the issue here that you and others wanna keep dancing around) you will get clock.

You're missing the point. You can compete all you want, but if I'm behind a player on a big time contract or a player that was in my position a year or two earlier, by default you'll be behind. On top of that, a lot of these players essentially play for 3 coaches in 3 years theoretically (senior year HS, freshman year college, rookie year NBA. Incoming players want stability. How is that accomplished if I get drafted to a team knowing damn well I can get shipped out any minute? If an agent can avoid that, he'll try and if an agent of a rookie happens to be an agent of an established player already on that team, the GM will acquiesce.

If you think there's competition to be had at the top of these rosters with players being given a full commitment, the league doesn't work that way. Sometimes the "competition" is a pointless one.

No I think you are or we are talking about two different things here. No team is gonna draft a guy number 1, have him ball out and beat a vet, and then just hold them back for the fukk of it. Top picks are gonna get every chance as long as they are up to it.

 

[Reality Check]

Ainge is great at collecting assets, but at some point he has to do something with all of them. He needs to pull the trigger on a blockbuster unless he wants to continue having 5-6 picks a year to further clog their development. Draft picks are worth a helluva lot more before the draft than after.

 

[Kang Deezy]

Ainge is great at collecting assets, but at some point he has to do something with all of them. He needs to pull the trigger on a blockbuster unless he wants to continue having 5-6 picks a year to further clog their development. Draft picks are worth a helluva lot more before the draft than after.

I think he's trying to balance competing while waiting out lebron

If we are able to draft a top guard I think smart has to go

Bradley has basically lapped him as a keeper

 

[75 Others]

"It would be malpractice to let my clients play for them," one longtime agent said.

This is one of the most etherous comments I've heard in a while

 

[Reality Check]

I think he's trying to balance competing while waiting out lebron

If we are able to draft a top guard I think smart has to go

Bradley has basically lapped him as a keeper

Problem is he overvalues what he has, hence why they have been stuck with young players and assets.

 

[notPsychosiz]

This is like when the Bucks send a scout to my player on 2k and I keep hiting the wrong answer to make it a bad fit

 

[Max.]