AGREE OR DISSGREE:If Dolph Ziggler Debuted today he would be one of the most over stars in the WWE

[Jmare007]

Cause he stale now & never wins shyt. More frustration knowing he won't ever be pushed as a top guy.

I've soured on Dolph Dawg because he's become the worst version of himself in the ring. Same with Cena.

 

[Mr. Negative]

Hello my name is Dolph Ziggler.

The creative ain't change since so I would expect the same results.

I still wonder who thought that shyt was a good idea

 

[TheGreatShowtime]

Disagree. He still sucks whether it's 2009 or 2015

 

[Golayitdown]

Nope. He came in at the right time. There's nothing he does that other guys who are popping in NXT can't do. At best he'd be near the top of the group. At worst, he'd blend in and be in the middle of the pack. Either way, he wouldn't be a standout. His offense is still anemic after a decade and his best move is selling the moves of others.

 

[Johnny Joestar]

Lol why cant the fans see that now?

It's because he's just stale at this point

he needs to change something because he's just been the Show Off for like 3 or 4 years now

i want to like Dolph but he aint giving me much to work with

 

[puppetmaster]

They've stopped giving people reasons to care. You can only yank the carpet away so many times before folks start to walk away. That's happening with him.



The crowd has been open for him a couple of different times and injuries/whatever they see or don't see in him derailed

 

[R=G]

He was never really that good and Cena buried him nice and clean in 2013. In one match, he kicked out of every finisher Ziggler had, stopped Big E who hit Cena with 2 finishers as well, and then still lost.

 

[InstantKlassik]

He sucks. And the fact that his name is "Ziggler" solidifies the fact that he'll never be major player.

 

[Pinyapplesuckas]

he would be Tyler Breeze

 

[AquaCityBoy]

Disagree. He still sucks whether it's 2009 or 2015

TSC's revisionist historian again.

 

[Dreamzeedream]

Nope. He came in at the right time. There's nothing he does that other guys who are popping in NXT can't do. At best he'd be near the top of the group. At worst, he'd blend in and be in the middle of the pack. Either way, he wouldn't be a standout. His offense is still anemic after a decade and his best move is selling the moves of others.

Sound like shawn michales

 

[Dreamzeedream]

he would be Tyler Breeze

Nah

 

[Dreamzeedream]

He was never really that good and Cena buried him nice and clean in 2013. In one match, he kicked out of every finisher Ziggler had, stopped Big E who hit Cena with 2 finishers as well, and then still lost.

 

[Golayitdown]

Sound like shawn michales

Overall Dolphin isn't even on the post-Rockers breakup pre IC title Michaels level though

 

[Alexander The Great]

He sucks. And the fact that his name is "Ziggler" solidifies the fact that he'll never be major player.

can't believe this is a serious thread