AI is killing the power grid?

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@Vandelay

You are more likely to suffer from corporate accidents and them being covered and shielded from lawsuits in a regulatory state , than a non regulatory state.
 

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And you generally can litigate those.

Can't really litigate advanced cellular breakdown.
You really aren't making a point though, because deregulation doesn't equate with no liability. It typically means more liability for the business operating.
So in the event that you get advanced cellular breakdown, you would get it from both, the only difference being in the deregulated environment you can sue for damages, civil or potentially criminal, whereas typically in the regulated environment if they have the connections they will say they did everything by the book and they will be completely shielded.
 

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China literally made A.I. a priority 5 years ago and has been laser focused on developing that technology as well as it's power grid.

The thing that cracks me up is how cacs act like the Chinese are cheating somehow. They announce what they're going to do and they just do it.

The difference is that while the Chinese government controls capital, in America capital controls the government. Here, technology isn't developed with the aim of improving people's lives and thus maintaining the government's legitimacy, it's developed to colonize everything and extract as much money as humanly possible in a consistent basis. By installing corporate bootlickers into government, these guys have ensured that they can buy up more and more competition, and eliminate any foreign or domestic competition. If it doesn't make someone money, it's not a priority over here. Both parties agree on this.

I'm genuinely curious to see what China is going to do with A.I. I already know what's going to happen here. They'll use it to accelerate unemployment rates.

Cab drivers
Talk therapists
Artists
Musicians
Porters
Factory workers
Janitors
Truck drivers
Programmers
Engineers
Customer support
Tech support

All of these will be replaced with robots or AI agents. There will be a smaller and smaller tax base to draw money from which can be used to subsidize big business's mistakes and product development. And because it's them in government, they won't raise taxes on themselves. The result will be technological stagnation.

People don't have enough money to buy the products or subscriptions, so then what's the point in trying to innovate. The government doesn't have tax revenue to insulate you from your risks, so what's the point in taking them?


The answer to this impending car crash is very simple: break up big tech, break up the military industrial complex, tax billionaires, use that revenue to fund a public jobs program and social safety net.

By breaking up the companies you force them to compete and innovate.
By having a jobs guarantee, you can get people to work building up the country's infrastructure. By having a social safety net that includes increased federal minimum wage, cheap education, and cheap child care, you give people more money in their pockets to spend on starting their own businesses/apps as well as coming up with new theories that can change the state of technology.

This won't happen because money has completely infested our political system and ruined our two parties who refuse to agree on development goals in a bipartisan way. We're in a canoe being rowed by a schizophrenic whose left arm rows one way and his right arm rows the opposite. Unless workers take control of the economy back through unions and vote out these corporate bootlickers, China won't just catch up, they'll be THE place to go to for the latest technology. They will have come full circle back to being a technological superpower that is several years ahead of the west and they'll have done that shyt using the playbook that America used for the new deal. This is the equivalent of a Nas fan going on tour with him, outshining him when he does his opening set, and then the crowd fukking LEAVES when nas shows up to the stage and plays less than a quarter of his set list.
 

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You really aren't making a point though, because deregulation doesn't equate with no liability. It typically means more liability for the business operating.
So in the event that you get advanced cellular breakdown, you would get it from both, the only difference being in the deregulated environment you can sue for damages, civil or potentially criminal, whereas typically in the regulated environment if they have the connections they will say they did everything by the book and they will be completely shielded.
You worrying about suing, I'm worried about an immediate painful death.

Yeah, the chances aren't that great of it happening, but understand me, I don't trust any of these government agencie under this present administration to have the necessary oversight that I don't have to think about potential mishaps. It doesn't have to be a meltdown. It could be transporting the waste from the facility.

Again... you're worried about money. I'm worried about health.
 

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Google announced a new nuclear deal for AI on Monday. :jbhmm: Nuclear is the future for AI. :yeshrug:
Let's see how long it takes before it's operational. And who is gonna pony up the Billions.
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Plant Vogtle Unit 4 begins commercial operation

In total, the construction of Vogtle Unit 3 took 121 months (10 years and 1 month), and Unit 4 took 125 months (10 years and 5 months) from the first pour of structural concrete to being connected to the grid. It's worth noting that this project faced significant delays and cost overruns, originally projected to cost $14 billion and be completed by 2016 (Unit 3) and 2017 (Unit 4), but ultimately costing more than $30 billion.
 

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Let's see how long it takes before it's operational. And who is gonna pony up the Billions.
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Plant Vogtle Unit 4 begins commercial operation

In total, the construction of Vogtle Unit 3 took 121 months (10 years and 1 month), and Unit 4 took 125 months (10 years and 5 months) from the first pour of structural concrete to being connected to the grid. It's worth noting that this project faced significant delays and cost overruns, originally projected to cost $14 billion and be completed by 2016 (Unit 3) and 2017 (Unit 4), but ultimately costing more than $30 billion.

if we weren't drowning in Racism we'd likely have a State Capitalism model to fast track foundational stuff to increase our lead outside of the obvious military shyt
 

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You worrying about suing, I'm worried about an immediate painful death.

Yeah, the chances aren't that great of it happening, but understand me, I don't trust any of these government agencie under this present administration to have the necessary oversight that I don't have to think about potential mishaps. It doesn't have to be a meltdown. It could be transporting the waste from the facility.

Again... you're worried about money. I'm worried about health.
Nope I'm literally stating that regulartion nor deregulation changes the technology involved.
Nuclear energy is safe whether the restrictions for openning a plan are in place or not.
So your concern has nothing to do with regulation or deregulation, which makes it pointless in this discussion and using the point you had.
 

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Nope I'm literally stating that regulartion nor deregulation changes the technology involved.
Nuclear energy is safe whether the restrictions for openning a plan are in place or not.
So your concern has nothing to do with regulation or deregulation, which makes it pointless in this discussion and using the point you had.
Disagree. Not really trying to debate you on it this. The technology is only as safe as the people and the systems supporting. I literally said earlier in the thread it was safe and needed to grow. But you have a clear narrative you want to push.
 

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Disagree. Not really trying to debate you on it this. The technology is only as safe as the people and the systems supporting. I literally said earlier in the thread it was safe and needed to grow. But you have a clear narrative you want to push.
Its as safe as the people and systems supporting it, yes and that applies in a regulated and deregulated energy sector.

I'm not trying to push a narrative, just trying to understand where you are coming from.

That said I'll keep it moving.
 

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Let's see how long it takes before it's operational. And who is gonna pony up the Billions.
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Plant Vogtle Unit 4 begins commercial operation

In total, the construction of Vogtle Unit 3 took 121 months (10 years and 1 month), and Unit 4 took 125 months (10 years and 5 months) from the first pour of structural concrete to being connected to the grid. It's worth noting that this project faced significant delays and cost overruns, originally projected to cost $14 billion and be completed by 2016 (Unit 3) and 2017 (Unit 4), but ultimately costing more than $30 billion.


I’ve seen those articles too. It’s going to happen breh. The move will be to build mini nuclear plants and restart existing nuclear plants.
 
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