AKON "LOUIS FARRAKHAN IS DEAD WRONG... LeBron James Is NOT A Slave"

[NoChillJones]

Your first line is what's so troubling. "Take away the technicalities of black slavery". Well you have already pretty much defeated your own argument. Take away what, freedom of choice? The power to decide what you can do for yourself as a free man? Take away the aspect of your children being sold and you never seeing them again? Take away the aspect of your owner raping your mother,sister, wife, daughter as he pleases? Oh take away all that and you still have a slave? No, every single one of us does not work to make the rich richer. I for example work for myself. But even in the past when I didn't, I would never dare compare my situation to that of a slave. What every single one of us has is the power to decide for ourselves what we will do. Sure, some are better able to make decisions for themselves due to race or socio-economic status, but we are all free to choose. It's like saying "take away the technicalities of rape" like the womans consent, and its just sex.

There is a blatant arrogance in accusing these athletes of being slaves because they are unwilling to do the things he or other think they should do with their money or power. One of the biggest issues in our community now is what exactly we need to improve it. Some think rich blacks should build schools or other necessary establishments in the community. The fact that there aren't team owners who are black is one of finances, not so much race. I think it's safe to say, even the WHITEST white man, if he ain't got many, many millions, or better yet several billions, he isn't any closer to owning a team more than you or I. And again, did Farrakhan take a poll of these athletes to see if they even DESIRED to own teams?

Please don't kid yourself into thinking racial issues are getting WORSE. No doubt they exist, but you are NUTS if you think they are worse than they were in the 80's, or if the 80's was worse than the 60's. If you could go back in time, what do you think blacks and whites in the 60's would say if you told them we had a black president? You would be put in a straight jacket and locked up. Yes there is HUGE room for improvement, but it damm sure ain't worse. What may be confusing you is the relatively new presence of social media, and the fact that pretty much all of us have become amateur reporters with video cameras in our pockets. If a cop kills an unarmed black kid in Ferguson, MO the world will know about it that day. Just 20 years ago, that news probably doesn't make it out of Ferguson, MO. These incidents are nothing new, they are just new to the public at large.

Farrakhan and the others who promote this "pro athletes are like slaves" ideology need to come up with a different description of those blacks who are not doing what THEY feel they should be doing. I wonder if Farrakhan could look an actual slave from the 1700's in the face and say, "that professional athlete over there? he's just like you".

So just because they have money they are not slaves, and the black race is making great strides because the Lebron James's of the world are making hundreds of millions of dollars. Can Lebron James hold a million man march protest in regards to police brutality? Can he demand a strike for NBA players until EOE actually start abiding by those guidelines to insure equal opportunity across the board? Can he publically become affiliated with a pro black group like Black Lives Matter and actually endorse their views? No? Because he will be subject to black balling, losing endorsement deals, losing mainstream fans and viewership, and his name tarnished as "one of the bad ones".

Money don't make you free in America, especially if your black. It doesn't mean he picks cotton all day and is subject to being whipped for talking back, but it does mean corporate lynching. It means his legacy destroyed, it means every secret he thought he could hide being exposed in efforts to bring him down. Just because its not the 1700's doesn't mean these crackers have not found new ways to play the same old games they've always played.

 

[Bolzmark]

oh boy, one of those delusional ass "look at how much we progressed" negros. let me guess, integration was the best thing to ever happen to black folks

Delusional? First of all we haven't progressed, white America has. We weren't doing anything wrong, it was America that was existing in a state of evil. All that I said and that's the only thing you got out of it? Simp.

 

[ridedolo]

Delusional? First of all we haven't progressed, white America has. We weren't doing anything wrong, it was America that was existing in a state of evil. All that I said and that's the only thing you got out of it? Simp.

you're completely delusional if you think the disparity in ownership is not race related. actually i suspect you're a cac based on that post.

 

[Bolzmark]

So just because they have money they are not slaves, and the black race is making great strides because the Lebron James's of the world are making hundreds of millions of dollars. Can Lebron James hold a million man march protest in regards to police brutality? Can he demand a strike for NBA players until EOE actually start abiding by those guidelines to insure equal opportunity across the board? Can he publically become affiliated with a pro black group like Black Lives Matter and actually endorse their views? No? Because he will be subject to black balling, losing endorsement deals, losing mainstream fans and viewership, and his name tarnished as "one of the bad ones".

Money don't make you free in America, especially if your black. It doesn't mean he picks cotton all day and is subject to being whipped for talking back, but it does mean corporate lynching. It means his legacy destroyed, it means every secret he thought he could hide being exposed in efforts to bring him down. Just because its not the 1700's doesn't mean these crackers have not found new ways to play the same old games they've always played.

Why are you talking about money? I never stressed that. Matter of fact, one of the points I have always made in this discussion is that comparing pro athletes to slaves is stupid even if pro athletes made the average American salary. Again, Lebron should do these things because YOU think he should? Believe it or not, everybodys ideas for fighting social injustice are not the same. Believe it or not, everybody does not believe marches are effective. Everybody doesn't support BLM. You do understand that right? Some of these same athletes you criticize wouldn't do it even if they were doctors, lawyers, or cashiers at Walmart. So those that don't do what YOU feel they should do are slaves?

I think it's YOU who is more concerned with the money. Isn't that why you are singling out pro athletes?

 

[Bolzmark]

you're completely delusional if you think the disparity in ownership is not race related. actually i suspect you're a cac based on that post.

Race related only from the standpoint of due to the abominable racial history of this country, blacks typically have less money than their white counterparts. Surely you aren't so slow as to think there are numerous blacks out here who actually have the finances to buy a pro team but just can't do it due to racism? You do realize that probably only one percent of the population can afford to do that right?

 

[Reign_Of_The_Most_High]

So just because they have money they are not slaves, and the black race is making great strides because the Lebron James's of the world are making hundreds of millions of dollars. Can Lebron James hold a million man march protest in regards to police brutality? Can he demand a strike for NBA players until EOE actually start abiding by those guidelines to insure equal opportunity across the board? Can he publically become affiliated with a pro black group like Black Lives Matter and actually endorse their views? No? Because he will be subject to black balling, losing endorsement deals, losing mainstream fans and viewership, and his name tarnished as "one of the bad ones".

Money don't make you free in America, especially if your black. It doesn't mean he picks cotton all day and is subject to being whipped for talking back, but it does mean corporate lynching. It means his legacy destroyed, it means every secret he thought he could hide being exposed in efforts to bring him down. Just because its not the 1700's doesn't mean these crackers have not found new ways to play the same old games they've always played.

This. I think that is the concept some misunderstand when this subject is broached about the premise of black athletes, entertainers, celebrities or business owners choice to exercise their "god given right" (To use the overused term of so called liberals) to speak out against injustices, particularly in the black community or people of color. Sure they can attempt or even be successful in voicing their opinions, but if it goes against the stance of what those who support white supremacy believe you should have, then the wheels will be set in motion to rectify your viewpoint.

Generally that starts with "public backlash" real or fabricated of a vocal minority, that is reported to be incensed or troubled by said remarks and believe some action should be taken. This then devolves into inane news coverage about said topic ad nauseum, who's intent is about ratings but also to put pressure on said person; this then proceeds to the "advising" of said person to mind his image and "tone down" or stay away from his/her "rhetoric". Which is generally a tactic to squelch the person for possibly influencing opinion, for most that is generally enough to get them to back away from their stance. If that is not successful then we experience them getting torn down, media leaks about private or old issues or fabricated lies and then the backing out of endorsers/business partners, until the person relents or lose most or all their power/prestige. This is the way white supremacy has been playing subterfuge and making sure the system is functioning as intended.

 

[ridedolo]

Race related only from the standpoint of due to the abominable racial history of this country, blacks typically have less money than their white counterparts. Surely you aren't so slow as to think there are numerous blacks out here who actually have the finances to buy a pro team but just can't do it due to racism? You do realize that probably only one percent of the population can afford to do that right?

lol stop it tyler.

 

[Bolzmark]

lol stop it tyler.

LOL, so they won't let you buy the Lakers huh? Because you black huh? Even though you got 5 Billy in the bank huh? Damm crakkas.

 

[NoChillJones]

Why are you talking about money? I never stressed that. Matter of fact, one of the points I have always made in this discussion is that comparing pro athletes to slaves is stupid even if pro athletes made the average American salary. Again, Lebron should do these things because YOU think he should? Believe it or not, everybodys ideas for fighting social injustice are not the same. Believe it or not, everybody does not believe marches are effective. Everybody doesn't support BLM. You do understand that right? Some of these same athletes you criticize wouldn't do it even if they were doctors, lawyers, or cashiers at Walmart. So those that don't do what YOU feel they should do are slaves?

I think it's YOU who is more concerned with the money. Isn't that why you are singling out pro athletes?

Just trying to get a grip on your stance point. The idea of athletes in general being new age slaves seems to offend you, but you haven't really explained why. Its a given the comparison to early American slavery is a bit of a stretch and no one is really stating that. I took it you are stating that these athletes are "free" because they can do what they want to do. But as stated by several posters they can't. Its not about what I would want them to do, its about the reality of what they actually are able to do, whether they choose to or not. I personally believe that plenty more of the Oprah's and Beyoncé's can do more for the American black population, however I also understand the larger picture and the effect that these women and men like them will have a much more impactful mark on the future generations of black children. And that in itself is a gift.

The topic was is Lebron James a slave. And myself and plenty of other posters stated yes, and gave pretty decent arguments as to why he could be considered one. You have yet to make your point on why you feel he is not. You can talk about what they should and shouldn't have to do based on their beliefs, but you've yet to talk about the repercussions of what happens when famous black celebrities in general talk boldly about social issues and choose to use their voice to fight the powers that bond them together. And that is where the problem lies. But I digress.

 

[ridedolo]

LOL, so they won't let you buy the Lakers huh? Because you black huh? Even though you got 5 Billy in the bank huh? Damm crakkas.

sure thing conner.

 

[Bolzmark]

Just trying to get a grip on your stance point. The idea of athletes in general being new age slaves seems to offend you, but you haven't really explained why. Its a given the comparison to early American slavery is a bit of a stretch and no one is really stating that. I took it you are stating that these athletes are "free" because they can do what they want to do. But as stated by several posters they can't. Its not about what I would want them to do, its about the reality of what they actually are able to do, whether they choose to or not. I personally believe that plenty more of the Oprah's and Beyoncé's can do more for the American black population, however I also understand the larger picture and the effect that these women and men like them will have a much more impactful mark on the future generations of black children. And that in itself is a gift.

The topic was is Lebron James a slave. And myself and plenty of other posters stated yes, and gave pretty decent arguments as to why he could be considered one. You have yet to make your point on why you feel he is not. You can talk about what they should and shouldn't have to do based on their beliefs, but you've yet to talk about the repercussions of what happens when famous black celebrities in general talk boldly about social issues and choose to use their voice to fight the powers that bond them together. And that is where the problem lies. But I digress.

Just to be clear, you say the NBA prevents LeBron from taking positions on social issues, therefore he is a new age slave? And if that is in fact the case, can you point out an athlete, that due to his or her position on social issues was shunned by the league?

 

[Bolzmark]

Just trying to get a grip on your stance point. The idea of athletes in general being new age slaves seems to offend you, but you haven't really explained why. Its a given the comparison to early American slavery is a bit of a stretch and no one is really stating that. I took it you are stating that these athletes are "free" because they can do what they want to do. But as stated by several posters they can't. Its not about what I would want them to do, its about the reality of what they actually are able to do, whether they choose to or not. I personally believe that plenty more of the Oprah's and Beyoncé's can do more for the American black population, however I also understand the larger picture and the effect that these women and men like them will have a much more impactful mark on the future generations of black children. And that in itself is a gift.

The topic was is Lebron James a slave. And myself and plenty of other posters stated yes, and gave pretty decent arguments as to why he could be considered one. You have yet to make your point on why you feel he is not. You can talk about what they should and shouldn't have to do based on their beliefs, but you've yet to talk about the repercussions of what happens when famous black celebrities in general talk boldly about social issues and choose to use their voice to fight the powers that bond them together. And that is where the problem lies. But I digress.

I feel he is not because when I hear the word slave I hear lack of freedom. And I have yet to hear a situation where LeBron had a lack of freedom to do something he wanted.

So since you think LeBron is restricted from taking certain positions on social issues, do you also feel that NBA owners are slaves to the NBA? Remember not to long ago the Clippers had a different owner. And he was stripped of his property because of something he said in a private phone conversation. So was he a slave too? While you and I may not agree with him on how he considers minorities, it was his right to feel that way. And he was forced out of the league. Slave?

 

[NoChillJones]

Just to be clear, you say the NBA prevents LeBron from taking positions on social issues, therefore he is a new age slave? And if that is in fact the case, can you point out an athlete, that due to his or her position on social issues was shunned by the league?

Didn't say he is prevented, I said the consequences that stem would be detrimental, if the views were controversial or anti enough.

Abdul Rauf (sp) got blackballed after he wouldn't rise for the national anthem during games

There was an ESPN story about this as well not to long ago, written by a "Player X" its actually more common then you think. Good athletes still with years in their prime just abruptly traded, or let go to never be picked up again. Most times because they players have "bad attitudes" or are not willing to conform to the NBA standard of keeping mainstream fans happy and not focused on their skin color.

 

[Bolzmark]

Didn't say he is prevented, I said the consequences that stem would be detrimental, if the views were controversial or anti enough.

Abdul Rauf (sp) got blackballed after he wouldn't rise for the national anthem during games

There was an ESPN story about this as well not to long ago, written by a "Player X" its actually more common then you think. Good athletes still with years in their prime just abruptly traded, or let go to never be picked up again. Most times because they players have "bad attitudes" or are not willing to conform to the NBA standard of keeping mainstream fans happy and not focused on their skin color.

Yes I remember the Abdul Rauf story. So it is your belief, that the NBA would make things hard for Lebron if he took a stand on police brutality? Like suspend him or something?

Would you not agree that Allen Iverson was about as anti as you can get, but he didn't find himself out of the NBA until his physical skills declined?

 

[joeychizzle]

May weather is a fgt with no heart he got checked by J prince

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