Never liked Jesse... now I want someone to let happen to him what he let happen to mlk. This is like his 20th fukk up, throw him in the dirt.
Al Sharpton appreciation thread.
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Nefflum nigga
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And Coli c00ns.
Come on bruh you my nikka
but just because other nikkaz see thru Al's bullshyt don't mean we c00ns bruh
Him and Jesse did NOT follow thru.
Jesse tried to run for president
....and Al tried in '04. These nikkaz whole style is studio. Fraudulent...only in it for the name. Both of them ran for president like that's gonna make a Difference. white washed...
So no my nikka, we not the c00ns. It's the c00ns who support these fake black leaders, swindling ass nikkaz.
LionofJudah
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Point blank, no real leader of the so called Black community is ever going to be a TV personality or on TV to begin with.
Karenga is worthless and ineffective, but I don't know if he's in white pocket or not.
Jesses def is.
Sharpton is.. but realistically- leaving hate aside, and leaving hairstyles and media hustlin aside.... His organization does shyt every day. They are fighting every day. Sharpton gets his spotlight on... but you can't hate on the actually work that he's put in because it's > damn near every other black person in America. I don't think he's a leader.. .but he does bring certain things to light, he does get certain things poppin, and his organization and those young black people do real shyt daily that we don't even hear about.
If the 'white man' had it their way Farrakhan would be dead. To say he's in the white man's pocket is like saying we're all in the White man's pocket by living in American and going to work. The NOI does shyt weekly. Young black guys go from wanting to be nikkas to wanting to me productive weekly due to the guidance of noi. With all Farrakhan's faults - he puts in that work for the black community and his student ministers def but in that work more so than any other group by far. Farrakhan has been in some pockets, but it's not the 'white man's' and he's not a destructive force in our communities. He's one of the last anti-c00nery media figures we have left.We can't just throw out c00n this c00n that.. sell out this sell out that... and place everyone in lil tiny boxes.
[ame=http://youtu.be/wIbeTS8G5co]Fred Hampton Interview Part 5 - YouTube[/ame]
[ame=http://youtu.be/smEqnnklfYs]Martin Luther King - I Have A Dream Speech - August 28, 1963 - YouTube[/ame]
[ame=http://youtu.be/WDEL96igPAA]Malcolm X - Mike Wallace - CBS News Interview - June 1964 - YouTube[/ame]
[ame=http://youtu.be/EtEw83us8hk]Eyes on the Prize - 09 - Power! 1967-1968 - YouTube[/ame]
LionofJudah
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The 60's was a different time, and I'm not a fan of MLK.
Nefflum nigga
Bred from insolence
I'm not a MLK fan either, but I realize the good in his intentions. Either way... he was willing to risk it all to allow the legislation to match the revolution. While I may be on the more radical side, I'm not one who believes that's all we need. We will always need people like MLK.
The 60's weren't that different other than we were more conscious as a people. But that goes for all races and classes of Americans. In 2013, we have more black men in prison than we were enslaved in 1850... we have every reason to revolt. We don't because the masses are lost and unmotivated; not because CNN pays a slick haired nikka 1500 to appear on the news.
Karenga is worthless and ineffective, but I don't know if he's in white pocket or not.
Jesses def is.
Sharpton is.. but realistically- leaving hate aside, and leaving hairstyles and media hustlin aside.... His organization does shyt every day. They are fighting every day. Sharpton gets his spotlight on... but you can't hate on the actually work that he's put in because it's > damn near every other black person in America. I don't think he's a leader.. .but he does bring certain things to light, he does get certain things poppin, and his organization and those young black people do real shyt daily that we don't even hear about.
As far as Karenga goes, he and his organization was used as pawn in the annihilation of the black panther party. If my memory serves me correct Hakim Jamal, Malcolm Xs cousin who led organizations with Karenga also distanced himself from him for the reason he felt he was working for the "otherside". Dr. John Henrik Clarke even called out Karenga, shyts been known
In regards to Farrakhan, the man who publicly admits to playing a hand in Malcolm Xs assassination isn't a destructive force to the black community?
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArEklsMTgDk]Farrakhan Praises Malcolm X Killers [1972] - YouTube[/ame]
Need I say more?
NOI is used to dumb people down, I don't see no black muslims talking about the Arab slave trade which was the direct result of the Muslim Crusades on Africa
Farrakhan was paid 2.3 million dollars to sell NOI on Scientology, Look up "Dianetics NOI". Striaght up bullshyt
We're given these false idols while our real leaders are killed off.
We gonna argue that Alex Jones isn't in "their" pocket next?
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cool, ok.
X's daughter tried killing Farrakhan in 95.. the same year that millions of black men got together for the million man march aka showed the unity that we really haven't shown since. Even she understands that while Farrakhan might have created the fuk Malcolm climate in the noi ranks, the noi had no intention of killing X. She was pissed at him for that, but not too ignorant to ignore the fact that X's killer's lawyers obtained the FBI files stating that the Audubon Ballroom had fake noi member who were actually FBI informants. Even X himself stated that the cops and FBI were both trying to cause a division in the NOI long before he slit with them. I guess internet revolutionaries like you might turn around and say the CIA n FBI, weren't involved in the drug trade now and the Black Panthers just decided to split up one day.In regards to Farrakhan, the man who publicly admits to playing a hand in Malcolm Xs assassination isn't a destructive force to the black community?
Malcolm X's Daughter Exposes Farrakhan (The Extended Clip) - YouTube
Need I say more?
NOI is used to dumb people down, I don't see no black muslims talking about the Arab slave trade which was the direct result of the Muslim Crusades on Africa
Farrakhan was paid 2.3 million dollars to sell NOI on Scientology, Look up "Dianetics NOI". Striaght up bullshyt
We're given these false idols while our real leaders are killed off.
We gonna argue that Alex Jones isn't in "their" pocket next?
It's crazy when people talk- without having a full understanding of things. You can believe that the noi has done nothing for the black community, but you first would have to ignore the fact that they've done more for black men in more modern times than any other group. The funniest thing I hear from black people is the Malcolm X thing - that let's me know right there that that person isn't interested in really helping things out and that they believe everything they read.
First of all, Malcolm X's immediate family aren't anti-farrakhan any longer because they know the truth of the matter. If you believe it was only a hand full of blacks that had hands in X's death then you're foolish. X and the NOI were upset with each other. Malcolm made some comments that he was told not to make because he gave no fukks. i respect that. However, He already knew about all the Elijah controversies when he was a member and said nothing. He said nothing until he was suspended and got pissed. He would have never been suspended he would have never said any of that and then The FBI and others would have had to infiltrate another group to cover up a plot to kill him.
Also, I guess you believe the Malcolm was the only black men the NOI has ever changed from being a destructive force in the community to being a positive man. From 1930-2013 the NOI does that shyt in Mass and if others did the same we would all be better off. X hated being black, loved white women, hated his kinky hair, sold drugs, used drugs, robbed people, and overall was horrible until the NOI found him.. yet narrow-minded BLACK people want to ignore all that and say random fallacious false BS and then hit you with "Need I say more?" lol. It's gross how divided we love to be. We actually love division and we campaign for that before we actually get off our laptops and computers and actually do something for the community. And black muslims do speak about arab slavery. Some of the first black Americans to mention the shyt were Islamic. It's not something that black Muslims promote and make a staple of their message because there are so many current issues with the black community that the focus should be getting solutions for. NTM the Translantic slavery and mental brain washing from that is the reason for some of the things that we are now facing in our inner cities - so much of the focus, is on changing more black men to positive and productive people - the way the Noi did Malcolm Little.
@Blackking your first paragraph has been known and I agree, imho, the FBI instigated the whole thing without having to pull a trigger. But that don't exempt people of blame
But are you gonna call Louis Farrakhan a liar? minister louis farrakhan is clearly taking (some) credit for Malcolm X's assassination. In his own words "the nation saw a fit way to get rid of their own traitor"
PLEASE ANSWER THIS
With what Farrakhan is on record saying about Malcolm Xs murder, it pretty much makes your last sentence irrelevant.
also
please point me in the direction of NOI members raising awareness of the arab slave trade
PS. Are you NOI? I sense alot of ignorance n cohesion
But are you gonna call Louis Farrakhan a liar? minister louis farrakhan is clearly taking (some) credit for Malcolm X's assassination. In his own words "the nation saw a fit way to get rid of their own traitor"
PLEASE ANSWER THIS
With what Farrakhan is on record saying about Malcolm Xs murder, it pretty much makes your last sentence irrelevant.
also
please point me in the direction of NOI members raising awareness of the arab slave trade
PS. Are you NOI? I sense alot of ignorance n cohesion
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The fact that you think that a focus of our urban issues and black American mental crises should be on "raising awareness of the arab slave trade". SMH. tell me what city you live in an I'll point you to an exact address of were you can find what ur seeking. smh. And FYI, most people who know black history beyond the civil rights on the 60's.... know of the Arab slave trade.
No I'm not NOI, I just support most positive groups and I don't cause division or hate unnecessarily. The NOI is all about unity, if some other black person or group doesn't like them, they are cool w that. But they are also cool w speaking at Churches or events that don't hold their same ideological views, because all that BS that people (including u) mention is irreverent to our communities.
You can ignore the fbi, you can ignore the fact that informants instead of Farrkhan or whoever pulled the trigger, you can ignore that fact that Malcolm was horrible and destructive before joining the nation, and ignore that fact that the noi has been about positive action since the 30's til now... but that's your choice.
Misinformation is more destructive than simple rhetoric of certain leaders. Misinformation is what lead Qubilah to listen to the people wanting to murder Farrakhan and go with that plot that led to her imprisonment- That lead to Betty having to take care of the Grandson who eventually killed her. So Betty Shabazz was burnt up -while nikkas are screaming "turned up" and dissing the program that gave us men like Malcolm. SMH - That situation is a metaphor to what continues to happen in our communities. We focus on BS, we listen to the wrong people, we Love to diss people who are trying in our communities more than we actually like to do shyt ourselves... and in the end we are left with more fukkery.
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Fillerguy
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You missed the part of my post in Capitals that said "PLEASE ANSWER THIS"
That was the bait, you've now turned this into a pointless discussion if we're not willing to answer important points made be either party.
Please point me to where I said this is what we should focus on?
This was me eluding to the moral hypocrisy on show
I myself was once upon a time a Black Muslim, then I gained knowledge and escaped my ignorance.
People do not understand Arabs had Africans in slavery for 1250 years ( 650 and 1900AD), 3x that of the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade. in 60yrs the Arabs conquered their was from Palestine to the tip of Gibraltar. The Arab slave trade didn't just effect East/North Africa, they even got their slaves from West Africa too.
These are the cold harsh facts
You couldn't find me any type of evidence of any NOI publicly raising this issue even if you tried.
You think Farrakhan don't know this especially with all the hate he teaches about the white man? like I said moral hypocrisy
Now ask yourself this, why is the Arab Slave Trade virtually unknown among Blacks?