All 32 starting Qbs ranked into tiers

[GatorStaceyAdams]

Luck was throwing to UDFA's last year with a garbage oline and a mediocre running game. He's legit.

And that is all he provided.. Mediocre numbers.

Dude was 18th in QBR, but is a top 5 QB already?

 

[Walt]

A former colleague just emailed me this (he's white):

I find it fascinating how narratives of "big data" and "analytics" and "objectivity" are continually employed to give credence to various racist tropes lauding white successes and black failures, even when the actual, objective results suggest strong reality-based counter narratives.

However, any numbers and results that run counter to people's preexisting beliefs and desires never seem to gain much traction...

Try convincing a white dude that Andrew Luck is no better than Cam Newton:

In both sets of value-over-replacement rankings, Luck narrowly places ahead of the Carolina Panthers’ Cam Newton, who makes for a particularly interesting point of comparison. Statistically, the two quarterbacks offered similar production a year ago, but their reputations couldn’t be more different. Luck is widely known as a “winner“; Newton has been dogged by criticism as a “stat-padder” who doesn’t deliver in big moments. Those sentiments probably played a large role when Sando’s execs placed Newton in the third tier despite having a quantitative résumé similar to Luck’s.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/how-good-is-andrew-luck/

 

[Trip]

And that is all he provided.. Mediocre numbers.

Dude was 18th in QBR, but is a top 5 QB already?

you dont think Andrew Luck is the real deal?

 

[distinguishedNOW]

Eh whatever I never understand these lists. I don't even like Russell Wilson but somehow Eli Manning, Matt Ryan, and Tony Romo grade out equal to or better than him. Eli Manning who threw 101 interceptions last year? 4-12 Matt Ryan?

 

[3Rivers]

Luck over Rivers and Ben?

 

[#StarkSet]

*bookmarks*

 

[concise]

A former colleague just emailed me this (he's white):

I find it fascinating how narratives of "big data" and "analytics" and "objectivity" are continually employed to give credence to various racist tropes lauding white successes and black failures, even when the actual, objective results suggest strong reality-based counter narratives.

However, any numbers and results that run counter to people's preexisting beliefs and desires never seem to gain much traction...

Try convincing a white dude that Andrew Luck is no better than Cam Newton:

In both sets of value-over-replacement rankings, Luck narrowly places ahead of the Carolina Panthers’ Cam Newton, who makes for a particularly interesting point of comparison. Statistically, the two quarterbacks offered similar production a year ago, but their reputations couldn’t be more different. Luck is widely known as a “winner“; Newton has been dogged by criticism as a “stat-padder” who doesn’t deliver in big moments. Those sentiments probably played a large role when Sando’s execs placed Newton in the third tier despite having a quantitative résumé similar to Luck’s.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/how-good-is-andrew-luck/

Yeah, I saw that this morning and the best part of it was:

Luck also looks like a prototypical quarterback. At 6 feet 3 inches tall and 235 pounds, Luck’s size jibes far more with the preconceived notion of what an elite QB should look like than, say, Seattle’s Russell Wilson (who stands 5 feet 11 inches). Further, Sando’s scouts are probably the same people who regarded Luck as “the top quarterback prospect to come along in the past 30 years” when he was at Stanford.Research in psychology has shown that it’s incredibly difficult to alter people’s first impressions, so it might have taken a Ryan Leaf-esque flop for scouts to change their opinions about Luck’s potential superstardom.

Guy also neglected to mention one more physical attribute.

 

[South Paw]

you dont think Andrew Luck is the real deal?

He's not top 5 yet. He doesn't even complete 60% of his passes.

 

[IAmGettingAMailOrderBride]

718 yds, ONE TOUCHDOWN, 7 INTs & ZERO PLAYOFF WINS

vs

2,471 yds, 19 TDs, 8 INTs & 1 SB, 3 AFC Title game appearances and at least one victory in each of his first 5 seasons....

keep reaching tho

I don't look at stats, flacco only gets off on a big plays most credit goes to him and his receivers and he owes boldin/Tory smith his career

 

[cook]

:ufdup2:

 

[#StarkSet]

Tom Brady is too high, he's declining and no one wants to admit the Golden Boy is getting old. He should be the top of the 2nd tier.
I would switch Andrew Luck and Big Ben it impressives me how much Ben can produce with so-so receivers, and an oft injured offensive line.

Actually the rest of the list is ok.

@cook

:oyea?:

 

[cook]

@cook

:oyea?:

i already saw that. that poster is dead to me

claim brady fell off when he lost hernandez, welker and gronk and was left with edelman (a college QB) as his #1 receiver and still put up top 5 qb stats, brehs

 

[Ain't That Something]

Better question is how is Matt Stafford ranked so high

 

[I'm Chillin]

Cam in the same tier as Ryan fukking tannehill?? Nick fukking Foles over him?? Nah b

 

[OH SOHH TRILL]

As a Cowboys fan, not controlling for age and my #blackexcellence desires, there's only 4 QBs I'd rather have than Romo. Peyton, Brees, Brady, Rodgers. I'd be indifferent about switching for Big Ben, Cam, and Luck.

That should be the real question. For a one year run, how would you feel about switching your guy for _________?