"All Cultures Are Not Equal"- NC Democrat Sista Goes FULL FBA Sides With Republicans On Immigration***Update***@Phantum the African Cosplays as FBA

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This is the simple truth on the issue. They only feel this need to join with us when they suffer. When times are fine, and only Black Americans are the target, they have no desire to be one of us. In fact, they work to make sure they are not seen as one of us.

So, if they really wanted to align with us, they would have done it long ago. That is the one truth they hide away from.
This is mostly a comedy of errors on the part of Democrats and the Immigrant community. They just took our support for granted and didn't really put forth any effort into strengthening ties between everyone. Not realizing we had already begun to divorce ourselves from these fake unity groups.

The truth is if the work was put in to unite everyone together decades ago. We wouldn't be having this conversation right now.
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It’s not helping them. It’s looking out for our own interests. Why would need more people here not helping us?

You don't think we have more pressing matters than Mexicans crossing the border? We're literally getting our history erased, voting rights eroded, scholarships disappearing. What should be our own interests?
 

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You guys are dumbasses. He's matching dumbass energy with dumbass energy. He's c00ning his ass off but he's just mocking you guys who's also c00ning your ass off. He's definitely c00ning and it's disgusting but you guys are doing the exact same. @Uachet, you are the most articulate fba member but you just rambling bullshyt as much as he is. Ya'll need to realize, you sound like white supremacists in blackface. Everything you are saying is low brow and stupid even with a nice bow on it.
Shortsighted thinking, you're just helping crackers do the dirty work so you can get fukked over like the immigrants as well.

Let's say tomorrow every immigrant disappeared from the US. Now what? We living in paradise?


Stop helping and trusting white people

The Forgotten Letter of Coretta Scott King​


In any age of rapidly changing political and partisan perspectives, it is perhaps well to remember how the immigration debate was originally framed back in 1986 when the Reagan/Bush Amnesty plan, put forth to placate the demands of Corporate America for cheap labor, was first enacted. Ignored at the time were the protests which began as early as 1969, when Cesar Chavez and members of the United Farm Workers marched with the Reverend Ralph Abernathy and U.S. Senator Walter Mondale to the border with Mexico to demand the cessation of employers’ practice of importing illegal labor as a means of cutting wages and reducing thousands of their workers to the most grinding poverty.

The government’s response to such protests and demands for economic justice? In the 1980s at a time when African American teenage unemployment approached a disgraceful 80 percent, Big Business cynically petitioned the INS for more visas for cheap foreign labor on grounds that there was an “unskilled labor shortage”. They largely got what they demanded. While Democrats courageously resisted such blatant attempts to lower the wages of legal Hispanic and African Americans, Reagan Amnesty apologists claimed that Americans wouldn’t stoop to perform the “dirty work” that only illegal workers would perform [<--- your current argument], ignoring the obvious fact that unemployed legal workers gladly and gratefully collect garbage and work in the coal mines if decent wages were paid.

The Black Leadership Forum is a coalition of the chief executive officers of the nation's oldest and largest African American organizations and coalitions.* We represent hundreds of thousands of African American registered voters, nationwide. Each of our organizations seeks the full and unfettered participation of African Americans, other disadvantaged minorities and the poor, in all sectors of our society. We have led and continue to lead the national effort to open and include into the American mainstream, "locked-out" persons of all races, ethnicities and socioeconomic strata. We find intolerable discrimination based on race, color, national origin, gender, religion, physical or mental capacity and socioeconomic condition.

While we have divergent views on the complex issue of employer sanctions, the undersigned Black Leadership Forum members and the Labor Council for Latin American Advancement* [<--- oh look, legal hispanics agreed] are united in three respects: 大 The chief executive officers of the following organizations are members of the Black Leadership Forum: NAACP Legal Defense Fund, National Urban League, National Urban Coalition, National Council of Negro Women, A. Philip Randolph Institute, NAACP, OICs of America, SCLC, Coalition of Black Trade Unionists, National Newspaper Publishers Association, National Black Caucus of Local Elected Officials, National Pan-Hellenic Council, National Conference of Black Mayors, Congressional Black Caucus.

1. We are fully committed to the elimination of the root causes of national origin dis crimination [<--- this is where we fought for yall ungrateful asses] under the Immigration Reform & Control Act of 1986 (IRCA), as well as discriminatory impact.

2. We believe that there are a number of effective ways to remedy discrimination resulting from IRCA, without tampering with employer sanctions. Some measures we support are contained in the Report and Recommendations of the Taskforce on IRCA-Related Discrimination and in the 1990 GAO Report on Imnigration Reform. Employer Sanctions and the Question of Discrimination.

3. Finally, we desire to discuss with you and other members of Congress, the importance of employer sanctions to the economic security of African American and Hispanic workers. [<--- still advocating for others, because it was RECIPROCAL]

We are concerned, Senator Hatch, that your proposed remedy to the employer sanctions-based discrimination, namely, the elimination of employer sanctions, will cause another problem--the revival of the pre-1986 discrimination against black and brown U.S. and documented workers, in favor of cheap labor-- the undocumented workers. This would undoubtedly exacerbate an already severe where economic crisis in communities there are large numbers of new immigrants.

Finally, we are concerned that some who support the repeal of employer sanctions are using "discrimination" as a guise for their desire to abuse undocumented workers and to introduce cheap labor into the U.S. workforce. America does not have a labor shortage. With roughly 7 million people un- and double that number discouraged from seeking work, the removal of employer sanctions threatens to add additional U.S. workers to the rolls and of the drive unemployed. down Additionally, it would add to competition for scarce jobs wages. Moreover, the repeal of employer sanctions will inevitably add to our social problems and place an unfair burden on the poor in the cities in which most new immigrants cluster--cities which are already suffering housing shortages and insufficient human needs services.


I'm gonna spam this in every relevant thread, I encourage yall to do the same. I'm so sick of the insults. They act like they respect the Civil Rights generation, but go blind whenever I post this. This letter is from 1991! Be so for real, how many of yall family came over in the mid 90's? Exactly. Our universally vaunted elders made the same exact argument we're making today.
 

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Yall tripping with this. Who is really for ILLEGAL immigration? Nobody. This is cac talk.
:what: Everybody crying about ICE. You got latina law-makers in CA calling the gangs to go fight the govt for enforcing immigration law.

It's absolute lawlessness, send everybody home. :camby:
 

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The Forgotten Letter of Coretta Scott King​


In any age of rapidly changing political and partisan perspectives, it is perhaps well to remember how the immigration debate was originally framed back in 1986 when the Reagan/Bush Amnesty plan, put forth to placate the demands of Corporate America for cheap labor, was first enacted. Ignored at the time were the protests which began as early as 1969, when Cesar Chavez and members of the United Farm Workers marched with the Reverend Ralph Abernathy and U.S. Senator Walter Mondale to the border with Mexico to demand the cessation of employers’ practice of importing illegal labor as a means of cutting wages and reducing thousands of their workers to the most grinding poverty.

The government’s response to such protests and demands for economic justice? In the 1980s at a time when African American teenage unemployment approached a disgraceful 80 percent, Big Business cynically petitioned the INS for more visas for cheap foreign labor on grounds that there was an “unskilled labor shortage”. They largely got what they demanded. While Democrats courageously resisted such blatant attempts to lower the wages of legal Hispanic and African Americans, Reagan Amnesty apologists claimed that Americans wouldn’t stoop to perform the “dirty work” that only illegal workers would perform [<--- your current argument], ignoring the obvious fact that unemployed legal workers gladly and gratefully collect garbage and work in the coal mines if decent wages were paid.

The Black Leadership Forum is a coalition of the chief executive officers of the nation's oldest and largest African American organizations and coalitions.* We represent hundreds of thousands of African American registered voters, nationwide. Each of our organizations seeks the full and unfettered participation of African Americans, other disadvantaged minorities and the poor, in all sectors of our society. We have led and continue to lead the national effort to open and include into the American mainstream, "locked-out" persons of all races, ethnicities and socioeconomic strata. We find intolerable discrimination based on race, color, national origin, gender, religion, physical or mental capacity and socioeconomic condition.

While we have divergent views on the complex issue of employer sanctions, the undersigned Black Leadership Forum members and the Labor Council for Latin American Advancement* [<--- oh look, legal hispanics agreed] are united in three respects: 大 The chief executive officers of the following organizations are members of the Black Leadership Forum: NAACP Legal Defense Fund, National Urban League, National Urban Coalition, National Council of Negro Women, A. Philip Randolph Institute, NAACP, OICs of America, SCLC, Coalition of Black Trade Unionists, National Newspaper Publishers Association, National Black Caucus of Local Elected Officials, National Pan-Hellenic Council, National Conference of Black Mayors, Congressional Black Caucus.

1. We are fully committed to the elimination of the root causes of national origin dis crimination [<--- this is where we fought for yall ungrateful asses] under the Immigration Reform & Control Act of 1986 (IRCA), as well as discriminatory impact.

2. We believe that there are a number of effective ways to remedy discrimination resulting from IRCA, without tampering with employer sanctions. Some measures we support are contained in the Report and Recommendations of the Taskforce on IRCA-Related Discrimination and in the 1990 GAO Report on Imnigration Reform. Employer Sanctions and the Question of Discrimination.

3. Finally, we desire to discuss with you and other members of Congress, the importance of employer sanctions to the economic security of African American and Hispanic workers. [<--- still advocating for others, because it was RECIPROCAL]

We are concerned, Senator Hatch, that your proposed remedy to the employer sanctions-based discrimination, namely, the elimination of employer sanctions, will cause another problem--the revival of the pre-1986 discrimination against black and brown U.S. and documented workers, in favor of cheap labor-- the undocumented workers. This would undoubtedly exacerbate an already severe where economic crisis in communities there are large numbers of new immigrants.

Finally, we are concerned that some who support the repeal of employer sanctions are using "discrimination" as a guise for their desire to abuse undocumented workers and to introduce cheap labor into the U.S. workforce. America does not have a labor shortage. With roughly 7 million people un- and double that number discouraged from seeking work, the removal of employer sanctions threatens to add additional U.S. workers to the rolls and of the drive unemployed. down Additionally, it would add to competition for scarce jobs wages. Moreover, the repeal of employer sanctions will inevitably add to our social problems and place an unfair burden on the poor in the cities in which most new immigrants cluster--cities which are already suffering housing shortages and insufficient human needs services.


I'm gonna spam this in every relevant thread, I encourage yall to do the same. I'm so sick of the insults. They act like they respect the Civil Rights generation, but go blind whenever I post this. This letter is from 1991! Be so for real, how many of yall family came over in the mid 90's? Exactly. Our universally vaunted elders made the same exact argument we're making today.
Thanks for the post, my first time reading that.
 

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:what: Everybody crying about ICE. You got latina law-makers in CA calling the gangs to go fight the govt for enforcing immigration law.

It's absolute lawlessness, send everybody home. :camby:

And you take that as being for illegal immigration... Okay


I feel like you've radicalized by online shyt. I'm not going to name call you, we all want better just different ways of going about it.
 

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And you take that as being for illegal immigration... Okay

“We are a proud city of immigrants, and with the Trump Administration signaling that they will ratchet up their chaotic approach, I’m making sure we deploy every resource and tool available within the City to ensure that we are supporting immigrant communities,” said Mayor Bass. “We will continue pursuing legal relief through the courts, and I am issuing orders to all General Managers to bolster their response and support for immigrant communities.”

In addition to stipulating an initiative for financial assistance, the directive calls for city departments to strengthen training protocols and preparedness plans surrounding immigration enforcement, and requests federal records on raid-related arrests and costs. The directive also aims to expand access to city department resources for immigrant families.

Critics of the directive argue that it further encourages unauthorized immigration and that it misuses taxpayer resources. Responding to criticism, President and CEO of the Mayor’s Fund for Los Angeles, Conway Collis, clarified that the initiative is funded by the city’s philanthropic partners and not by the city itself *** in an interview with Fox News. Collis said that the impact of this initiative extends beyond its immediate recipients, supporting neighborhoods as a preventative measure against eviction and homelessness, for example.

“It’s not that we’re encouraging people to come here illegally :comeon:, it’s saying that for productive people who are contributing to Los Angeles life – and most are – it’s important to ensure that they’re living at least at a reasonable standard,” Collis said. “This is for documented, undocumented people, it’s for people in need [<--- but not for black people]… It doesn’t only help the people who are getting the cards, it helps all of us.


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When the migrants were first being bused in, I saw orthodox or hasidics meeting the buses with sneakers and coats and shyt, wishing them a Merry Christmas :skip:- obviously, suspicious. Come to find out, what was started a a vehicle to re-settle 19th c jews fleeing eastern Europe has morphed into a global reshuffling of populations. The org in question, HIAS, is a big behind the scenes player. Funding was cut under Trump and it wasn't looking like Adams or Cuomo was with the bs. Voila: Mamdani. He don't even have to be complicit. Their goals are in alignment and he's already on record about the checks he gon cut for the cause.

Seattle, WA Today, three national and local refugee-serving agencies and nine individuals filed Pacito v. Trump, the first lawsuit challenging President Trump’s Executive Order (EO) suspending the U.S. refugee resettlement program (USRAP), as well as the efforts by the Trump Administration to decimate the USRAP by withholding critical, congressionally-appropriated funding for refugee processing and services. The new federal litigation, filed in the Western District of Washington, asks the court to declare the EO illegal, enjoin all implementation of the EO, and restore refugee-related funding.

The lawsuit was filed by the International Refugee Assistance Project (IRAP) on behalf of Church World Service (CWS), HIAS, and Lutheran Community Services Northwest (LCSNW) — whose ability to provide critical services to refugees in the U.S. and abroad has been severely inhibited by the suspension of USRAP and funding



 

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From NYC, live in NJ.

So you think illegal immigrants are bankrupting the country?
Where and where? I went to hs in Jersey.

No, they're driving down the cost of labor overall, similar to an AI that can do trades, tbh. I don't know how old you are, but I knew several black construction workers who, a, were kept out of the unions by racism, and b, were eventually replaced by illegals way back in the early 2000's.
 

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You don't think we have more pressing matters than Mexicans crossing the border? We're literally getting our history erased, voting rights eroded, scholarships disappearing. What should be our own interests?
No, when 6/10 Black American men must compete with them for jobs in Construction and Manufacturing. So no, there is no issue more pressing than my brothers' own economic circumstances in this country. I will not allow illegals to be a more important issue than that.
 

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No, when 6/10 Black American men must compete with them for jobs in Construction and Manufacturing. So no, there is no issue more pressing than my brothers' own economic circumstances in this country. I will not allow illegals to be a more important issue than that.
Notice how many posters came in here demanding answers and then disappear.

That proves that they have no possible rhetorical wiggle room. We've closed off all potential off ramps. Our arguments are getting tighter. :ehh:
 
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