BP2 : Underrated, not great, but the only real flaw is it being a double disc
MCHG, KC, VOL 3, BP 3 r not good/bad albums
That's 4..Jay has 4 more average/okay albums
Then the classics
all jay z jokes aside, in reality, jay z is top 5 of all time. no matter what era
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MCHG, KC, VOL 3, BP 3 r not good/bad albums
That's 4..Jay has 4 more average/okay albums
Then the classics
We're talking about JayZ not Jadakiss
We're talking about good songwriting, not better-than-Jadakiss songwriting.
Cloud McFly
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Do I think the level of rapping from a technical standpoint was on par with Reasonable Doubt?
No.
But the songwriting, the beats, and Jay's bravado all came together in order to create the perfect commercial rap album while still keeping the songs to a higher standard of quality than some people's non commercial material, a masterpiece really.
Hits on hits on hits.
So was Jay hitting us with Can I Lives and Dead Presidents?
No, that's God level, but The Blueprint was also God level imo, just an entirely different type of flexing.
I mean Jay wasn't flowing or giving you messages to chew on and think about on The Rulers Back like he was on Can't Knock The Hustle, but those opening bars still give me chills each time and are paced/delivered perfectly.
Or songs like Heart Of The City or U Don't Know, it could feel like the beats are carrying Jay like some people like to argue, but he just takes them to another level.
He's not trying to bog you down with all these double meanings and clues you find in the lyrics though they may be there, or fancy rhyme schemes.
But they're just written so well off jump
Never Change or Heart of The City are two good examples of that, try not to rap along with these songs.
Yup, The Blueprint really showed showed he mastered songwriting at that point. People claim he was coasting, or lyrically not up to par, but to me, it was purposely done that way. It's just like a classic ATCQ (RIP Phife) album, where it's just the perfect marriage of beats and rhymes.
Hov showed he was still sharp lyrically, as evidenced by cuts like Lyrical Exercise and Renegade, but not every beat/song calls for that, and you gotta know when to dial it back.
ChiTownGuevera
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Because symbology when a pigeon lands on you it means ya done you're outta here , they only land on the down trotten
I can show you an old pic from 2001 with Jay z holding pigeons
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wasnt than in XXL
Thread should've ended after this exchange
If Jay retires after The Black Album this isn't a debate. But like someone said earlier his body of work after 2004 (besides American Gangster) took him out of my top 5.
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Where did all of this Jay-Z hate come from
Hov is my GOAT.....
Hov and Nas are my 1 and 2....
Hov and Nas are my 1 and 2....
Might be just a weirdo
