All title matches should be..

[SteelCitySoldier]

Do you think they are going to go Ambrose v Henry with Henry eventually going over for the belt? I don't see them building this "feud" at all in the future.

I don't see why they wouldn't, what other reason would they even start an angle? Henry just returned so they aren't going to sit him again. I see this as a starting point for the Shield breakup, Either the two of them get tired of having to save his ass and they turn on him or they don't interfere in a match, Henry wins and he turns on them because the cost him the title. Add to the fact dude has held the belt without really defending it....Yes it leads me to believe that Henry will eventually win that title.

 

[SteelCitySoldier]

TNA making something look stupid?

Don't blame TNA, it wouldn't be a good rule change...IMO

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

I don't see why they wouldn't, what other reason would they even start an angle? Henry just returned so they aren't going to sit him again. I see this as a starting point for the Shield breakup, Either the two of them get tired of having to save his ass and they turn on him or they don't interfere in a match, Henry wins and he turns on them because the cost him the title. Add to the fact dude has held the belt without really defending it....Yes it leads me to believe that Henry will eventually win that title.

That's fair enough. Makes sense logically, but let's not act like they haven't 'started an angle' without fully following through on it with a good payoff before. I can see them doing that but I don't think it is a given that Henry is going to continue to be included in it. Time will tell.

Don't blame TNA, it wouldn't be a good rule change...IMO

Maybe, but I think it needs to at least be utilized more on a match to match basis, especially when going against a guy with a stable ringside.

 

[Ed MOTHEREFFING G]

LOL make a stipulation so bad guys can't be bad

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

LOL make a stipulation so bad guys can't be bad

So bad guys can only be bad because they can retain via DQ?

 

[puppetmaster]

They just need to beselective when they have heels do it. Last night worked well. Returning Mark Henry doesn't have to eat the L to keep the shield strong and Ambrose reminds folks that he's still a dirtbag regardless of the heel v heel faction war


You don't wanna pull out the "you can lose it via dq" card until he heel has done it a time too many to avoid losing to this guy.

also you need commentators selling the heels as cowardly scumbags for doing it to be effective instead of having them spend precious time reminding us that Christian is ugly, the network is coming and that we don't know how to hook up a video game system/media hub without their assistance.




-P-

 

[ML29]

Which still would have been DQ...

Yeah, but he's talking about keeping Henry Strong tho. what happened on the show didn't do that at all.

 

[SteelCitySoldier]

Yeah, but he's talking about keeping Henry Strong tho. what happened on the show didn't do that at all.

No he's not, the topic of the thread is getting rid of the DQ title doesn't change rule. The topic of them keeping Henry looking strong is a different story for a different day, but since it was brought up he still could have looked strong if the announcers were doing their jobs. Someone is supposed to be yelling, this isn't fair! Henry just came back from injury and they still need three people to keep him down! If they do that then he still comes off as beast who has to be beat down by three wrestlers even though he just back from an injury.

Also he did look strong IMO until they had to gang up on him at the Same time.

 

[ML29]

No he's not, the topic of the thread is getting rid of the DQ title doesn't change rule. The topic of them keeping Henry looking strong is a different story for a different day, but since it was brought up he still could have looked strong if the announcers were doing their jobs. Someone is supposed to be yelling, this isn't fair! Henry just came back from injury and they still need three people to keep him down! If they do that then he still comes off as beast who has to be beat down by three wrestlers even though he just back from an injury.

Also he did look strong IMO until they had to gang up on him at the Same time.

Having him get beat up again after returning from two Lesnar beat downs was just a way to go in general. He should've just squashed some heel or won in a tag match with Langston or something.

 

[SteelCitySoldier]

Having him get beat up again after returning from two Lesnar beat downs was just a way to go in general. He should've just squashed some heel or won in a tag match with Langston or something.

So squashing a jobber or winning a tag match is better than a possible program against one of the hottest acts in WWE right now and a title holder?!!!

This is what's wrong with most of the IWC IMO, I'm not calling you out but people always jump to conclusions before shyt pans out. Henry ain't Kofi, Truth or the Black Power Ranger, I know WWE does a whole lot of head scratching shyt but I refuse to believe that this will just end with us thinking "what the fukk was the point of that". I could be wrong and we will find out next week, but let's just wait until next week before we start saying "that shyt was dumb".

 

[Shadow]

Nah, they could just stop booking predictable stuff like that.

The fact that Rollins and Reigns were just standing out there told you that they'd run in when it looked like Ambrose would lose. Everyone could call that happening.

The formula is old now, I remember when they kept doing the same finish a few months back: Singles or tag match involving the Shield. One or two of the Shield members interfere in the match. It's a DQ finish. Faces come down to help the other face getting beat down. Authority figure comes out and changes it into a six man tag team match.

 

[ML29]

So squashing a jobber or winning a tag match is better than a possible program against one of the hottest acts in WWE right now and a title holder?!!!

This is what's wrong with most of the IWC IMO, I'm not calling you out but people always jump to conclusions before shyt pans out. Henry ain't Kofi, Truth or the Black Power Ranger, I know WWE does a whole lot of head scratching shyt but I refuse to believe that this will just end with us thinking "what the fukk was the point of that". I could be wrong and we will find out next week, but let's just wait until next week before we start saying "that shyt was dumb".

That wasn't starting a program tho. They disposed of him Easily, and then went on to their badass epic staredown with Wyatt's. He was an afterthought.

Yes winning squash or tag match in a segment that highlights his return after two beatdowns from a part timer he can't even get revenge against cause he's gone is way better than returning to get punked out again. A title program with Ambrose could've been started later like on this week on Smackdown. When someone returns from a injury it's best for the guy to end the night strong to say to the people "he's back and ready to make an impact".

 

[Notorious 1 E.Y.E.]

So bad guys can only be bad because they can retain via DQ?

yes
cheating to win is what makes them bad guys

its kinda heel booking 101

 

[Jmare007]

Changed to have the champ lose the belt if they lose via DQ.

Without this stip, what's the point of them even fighting in the first place (especially as a kayfabe heel)?

That shyt last night with Ambrose and Henry was one of most predictable endings I have ever seen. It was stupid as fukk.

If you make every DQ/Countout a title change, then you are left with the question of why heels don't just let his manager/valet/tag partner/other heel attack him so he can win by DQ? It would only take 1 punch to cause a DQ so it's a dumb rule too.