Allen Iverson type opinions on 'Black on Black' Crime - A Dialogue

[god shamgod]

“My eyes stay teary for all the brothers that I bury in the cemetery/shyts scary our black on black crime legendary/but at times unnecessary, I'm getting worried" -Tupac shakur

tupac said these bars in 1994 and he's god to you lames.Sorry that thesis is a good attempt but I been on the block and seen black males with sawed off shotguns ready to blast nikkas and all types of other crazy shyt.

 

[Virtuous_Brotha]

“My eyes stay teary for all the brothers that I bury in the cemetery/shyts scary our black on black crime legendary/but at times unnecessary, I'm getting worried" -Tupac shakur

tupac said these bars in 1994 and he's god to you lames.Sorry that thesis is a good attempt but I been on the block and seen black males with sawed off shotguns ready to blast nikkas and all types of other crazy shyt.

Just adding another to back up your objective view point, i guess it depends who is saying it

'Then they say it's the white man we should fear but its my own kind doing all the killing here'

 

[Jekyll]

Nobody's reading all that bullshyt. But if you can't acknowledge that black on black crime is a huge issue within the black community then you are no better than white people who deny white supremacy is an issue.

I get so tired of hearing about crime from nikkas who been on they mama porch they whole life. Shut the fukk up and let real nikkas fix the streets if yall aint

 

[Madrasas]

It's true that the so called black community in America is dysfunctional and broken. Which is why we should be focusing on building up our communities above everything else. The rampant rates of so called black on black crime is simply a reflection of the wider brokenness and dysfunction in the "black community." And yes, no other "race" in America preys on their "own" the way black people do.

This is not a "pull yourself up by your bootstrap" mantra, but we cannot rely on the Caucasian to show us sympathy, or to uplift us out of our current condition. The liberal and social justice blacks have this attitude of "look how oppressed I am, Mr white man. Please feel sorry for me." They try to appeal to the heart of their supposed opressor. Well, if your opressor had a heart, he would not have oppressed you in the first place.

 

[Po pimp]

“My eyes stay teary for all the brothers that I bury in the cemetery/shyts scary our black on black crime legendary/but at times unnecessary, I'm getting worried" -Tupac shakur

tupac said these bars in 1994 and he's god to you lames.Sorry that thesis is a good attempt but I been on the block and seen black males with sawed off shotguns ready to blast nikkas and all types of other crazy shyt.

Just adding another to back up your objective view point, i guess it depends who is saying it

'Then they say it's the white man we should fear but its my own kind doing all the killing here'

2pac also provided context PLENTY of times.


Answering the question of why he still needs to carry a gun despite not living in the hood
11:22-12:05

Saying black murder isn’t a case of blacks wanting to kill, but not wanting to die. Also mentions how they let the killers/rapists out to go live in the same buildings/area as other black folks
20:24-22:44

 

[Benefited]

Iverson is right.

He really stood up for himself when white dudes were trying to flex on his crew. no keyboard "cac" this and "ws" that..
He really got singled out and was thrown in jail for a brawl between teenagers.
He was really locked up.
He really got clemency on his sentence from "boule" Black governor of VA.
He really got a second chance from the BLACK coach he gave him a scholarship, after every other school turned their back on the once two sport blue chip recruit.

His trials and tribulation during his career and after are well known

This dude has been through it all.
That people are copping pleas and trying to shoot down his point is sad, actually. If his view on this situation isn't valid, then who's is?

Im a Iverson stan too,and he also was helped to finish highschool by a white woman. He was also drafted by a white man in Pat Croche,he also had a white coach in Larry Brown who he loves,he was also given millions by white people at Reebok,love from white fans. Now 99% of those things were done because he knew how to dribble a damn basketball. And this is what nikkas do,whites show them some love for whatever reason and suddenly they wanna get out here and start speaking on the positives of white people vs black people,talking that black on black crime shyt. He just dropped to # 3 on my favorite player of all time list,Jordan and Kobe might not say shyt,but at least they not saying this

 

[Benefited]

2pac also provided context PLENTY of times.


Answering the question of why he still needs to carry a gun despite not living in the hood
11:22-12:05

Saying black murder isn’t a case of blacks wanting to kill, but not wanting to die. Also mentions how they let the killers/rapists out to go live in the same buildings/area as other black folks
20:24-22:44

Exactly,such a simple concept at that 20:24 mark. "Its not that he wants to kill,its that he doesn't want to die". I don't care if random white folks understand it or not,but those in power in the judicial system should have a greater understanding when they have the power to throw peoples lives away. People don't know what its like being surrounded by gunshots in every hood you move to,seeing so many people with guns,people close to you being murdered,hearing about killings on the news in close proximity,being violated by robberies. It doesn't even take all those things,or alot of those things to make you feel like you have to be strapped,what are you going to do,wait til you turn old enough to get a gun legally? Now that should be the first thing you do when you turn legal age, if you are lucky enough to not get caught and get a felony before then. Or better yet,move somewhere you feel like you don't need a gun whether that be somewhere peaceful in the hood or out the hood. Of course its an overexagerated fear in most cases,but when you are young man,people should have sympathy for that. Yet Iverson would rather talk about how white people are scared of us,then having empathy for young black males,and black men being afraid of each other,and doing something about it

 

[Benefited]

Iverson posted something simple and nikkas writing 2 page papers off a couple sentences.


If we can’t rise above that shyt just state the truth and say we can’t.. Rising above is the only option because the white man is not going to fix the issue they caused.

Nothing fancy just the “simple” truth. Maybe we just destined to live in poverty and kill each other. Institutionalized racism is the reason, as a group we in the situation we in BUT it ain’t the end all, be all for black people.


That’s just my opinion tho. You got to play the cards you was dealt.

What do white people have to do with it though,why is he even thinking about white people in this situation,thats SIMPLY some c00n shyt. He could have talked about black on black crime without excusing white ignorance,reinforcing their bias and racist views. He did all that in one sentence,so maybe he should have written a paragraph too since words are powerful:respect:.Iverson should just shut up and dribble,seems like he only pops his head up to talk about black issues is when comparing us negatively to white people and excusing their ignorance and racism. He made a black on black crime tweet before.

 

[DPresidential]

2pac also provided context PLENTY of times.


Answering the question of why he still needs to carry a gun despite not living in the hood
11:22-12:05

Saying black murder isn’t a case of blacks wanting to kill, but not wanting to die. Also mentions how they let the killers/rapists out to go live in the same buildings/area as other black folks
20:24-22:44

Breh, thank you.

nikkas assume anyone with an opinion like ours are that of nikkas who were on their porch in the suburbs

Black boys and men are not savage by nature. We, like every other human being, are products of our environment and home.

Look at this.

Nobody's reading all that bullshyt.

I get so tired of hearing about crime from nikkas who been on they mama porch they whole life. Shut the fukk up and let real nikkas fix the streets if yall aint

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tupac said these bars in 1994 and he's god to you lames..

If you grew up with nikkas who caught bodies and and ran the streets...

Then...


Then you must have seen those same nikkas when they were kids, right?

I knew killers, and I knew them Before they were that. I knew them when we were kids playing in Ingersoll projects, gambling our lives playing another game of basketball as the sun went down and risking the "Yo little man, let me see the ball real quick" scheming...

I knew them when.they were innocent.

Now, unless yall are arguing that they were inherently evil savages from birth... I'd imagine you'd agree with me that something, outside of themselves, corrupted their morality, corrupted their way of thinking.


This isn't a blame whitey post. It's a dysfunction is caused by the institutions that are supposed to structure the community, not the community themselves.

@Po pimp @Bone$ DAP + Rep to yall nikkas

 

[mag357]

"Black on Black crime" is a myth. The number 1 indicator of crime perpetrated from one individual unto another in the United States is proximity.

"Black on black crime" insinuates that black people are looking for and targeting specifically black people. Just like "white on white crime". When actually, gang violence, neighbor disputes, etc. are more based upon demographics of the area. There is crime in all areas. In areas with highly concentrated numbers of black people, black people commit crimes against other black people. In areas with highly concentrated numbers of white people, white people commit crimes against other white people.

"Black on black crime" was a way for someone who is not black to point a finger at black people, and it worked sadly Instead of looking at police brutality (the abuse of power from someone meant to serve the public) we are shown numbers of criminals committing crimes and told to focus on the race of those involved, a completely unrelated argument.

Black people should not say "we need to end black on black crime" because that is just "crime". What we need to focus on is changing gang culture in African American communities. We need to be specific with our conversations, our plans, and our actions, instead of just saying "black on black crime"

Co-fukking-sign

Nah... black on black crime is a real thing...
Even tho I've been arguing the "proximity" thing longer than ppl even actually thought of that argument...
When they talk about crime, they categorize it... obviously...we know this...
So they say how much crime is being done that's domestic, racially motivated, ppl in the same community, race yadda yadda yadda...
The reason why the "black on black" shyt is always brought up, cause the shyt doesnt make sense to most ppl...
How we can have complaints about things that happen to us... theres nothing wrong with the complaints, but not be just as concerned with something that happens wayyy more in our communities....
So with the murder by proximity, u should have just as many white on white crimes, asian on Asian crimes, latino on latino crimes and so fourth...
But u dont...
A black man walked up to nipsey hussle and killed him. Not the government, not the white man.... not a Chinese muthafuka...
Another Black man.
And this happens so much, we barely even think about it any more....
So I'm sure nobody wants to here "oh what about black on black crime"...
But yea.... what the fukk is up with black on black crime...
Suggestions?

 

[Benefited]

OP you are a great writer btw,my only problem is that you do realize you are a lawyer right. At this time you are a big cog in the white supremacy system. On one hand one may say "We need more black lawyers and cops". But lets face it,to believe that means you believe in the system and that a few small cogs in those systems can change it. Personally I don't believe there exist a change in a dominant white supremacy system that is already in cruise control and works like clock work. Seperation and independence is really the only answer. Stay healthy mentally brother,because if these are your thoughts while working as a lawyer,I think that job is going to mentally destroy you as a person as you are forced to put on a fake persona and pretend to believe in it,and play the game.


edit-disregard if your just a divorce lawyer.

 

[mag357]

Breh, thank you.

nikkas assume anyone with an opinion like ours are that of nikkas who were on their porch in the suburbs

Black boys and men are not savage by nature. We, like every other human being, are products of our environment and home.

Look at this.





If you grew up with nikkas who caught bodies and and ran the streets...

Then...


Then you must have seen those same nikkas when they were kids, right?

I knew killers, and I knew them Before they were that. I knew them when we were kids playing in Ingersoll projects, gbling our lives playing another game of basketball as the sun went down and risking the "Yo little man, let me see the ball real quick" scheming...

I knew them when.they were innocent.

Now, unless yall are arguing that they were inherently evil svage from birth... I'd imagine you'd agree with me that something, outside of themselves, corrupted their morality, corrupted their way of thinking.


This isn't a blame whitey post. It's a dysfunction is caused by the institutions that are supposed to structure the community, not the community themselves.

@Po pimp @Bone$ DAP + Rep to yall nikkas

10p% right my dude....
But u are born into the situation u are born into....
Blacks are not inherently murders, killers pimps and drug dealers...
We are just survivors... these are traits we had to learn to survive... being placed in this situation by our country....
Ok... we can agree on that...
What's next?

 

[Roland Coltrane]

Iverson is right.

He really stood up for himself when white dudes were trying to flex on his crew. no keyboard "cac" this and "ws" that..
He really got singled out and was thrown in jail for a brawl between teenagers.
He was really locked up.
He really got clemency on his sentence from "boule" Black governor of VA.
He really got a second chance from the BLACK coach he gave him a scholarship, after every other school turned their back on the once two sport blue chip recruit.

His trials and tribulation during his career and after are well known

This dude has been through it all.
That people are copping pleas and trying to shoot down his point is sad, actually. If his view on this situation isn't valid, then who's is?

HOLY shyt I DID NOT SEE THAT COMING

 

[mag357]

Iverson is right.

He really stood up for himself when white dudes were trying to flex on his crew. no keyboard "cac" this and "ws" that..
He really got singled out and was thrown in jail for a brawl between teenagers.
He was really locked up.
He really got clemency on his sentence from "boule" Black governor of VA.
He really got a second chance from the BLACK coach he gave him a scholarship, after every other school turned their back on the once two sport blue chip recruit.

His trials and tribulation during his career and after are well known

This dude has been through it all.
That people are copping pleas and trying to shoot down his point is sad, actually. If his view on this situation isn't valid, then who's is?

Bro... if Dr. King and Malcolm X came back and said anything that puts responsibility on the black community... they would re-bury them men

 

[mag357]

I came from that environment too. The PROBLEM is making it about us being black and simply saying black people just have to do better. It’s bigger than us.

It may have started beyond us...

But it is not bigger than us...
We have problems that we are the direct cause of