Almost every owner in the NBA is JEWISH

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You must not know the Word. There are many prophecies from both the prophets and the law that are still not fulfilled. The commandments of LORD and the law still stand except for the sacrificial law which was fulfilled by Christ sacrifice. So the children of Israel no longer have to go to the Levitical priest for forgiveness of sins. That is the only thing that was done away with.

Oh, I definitely know the word. I'm not so sure about you though.

Matthew 22:37

Then one of them, a lawyer, asked Him a question, testing Him, and saying, “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?”

Jesus said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.”


You must not understood what the term Law (Mosaic law) and Prophets (Who foretold of his coming) meant in that Matthew 5:18 and how Jesus fulfilled both.

He fulfilled the Mosaic law by keeping it, since it was a curse which showed man his sins but offered no redemption from it. At which point, he became the law in this new covenant, which is grace through faith.

Galatians 6:2
Bear one another's burdens, and thereby fulfill the law of Christ.


As for the Mosaic law.

Romans 10:4
For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.

Galatians 5:13-14
For you, brethren, have been called to liberty; only do not use liberty as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another. For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

John 4:23-24
But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him. God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”

Galatians 5:16-18
I say then: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish. But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.

Romans 6:14-15
Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body, that you should obey it in its lusts. And do not present your members as instruments of unrighteousness to sin, but present yourselves to God as being alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness to God. For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace.

What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? Certainly not!

Acts 15:23-24
They wrote this letter by them:

The apostles, the elders, and the brethren,

To the brethren who are of the Gentiles in Antioch, Syria, and Cilicia:

Greetings.

Since we have heard that some who went out from us have troubled you with words, unsettling your souls, saying, “You must be circumcised and keep the law" —to whom we gave no such commandment—


Matter fact, read all of Acts 15. I got a plethora of scriptures which go even deeper, but I'm not trying to derail this thread. I'll be sure to @ you in my thread w/e I get a chance to offer you more insight.
 

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Rich people own NBA teams. End of story.

Except it's usually a certain kind of rich person.

It goes both ways. If you criticize Jews for being wealthy, then you should criticize Africans for being poor. Your decision... But no double standards, please.

What kind of logic is this? Explain your argument.

Why? Those owners have as much of a right to own teams as anyone else, you racist b*stard. If they have the money to own a team, why shouldn't they be allowed to? bytch.

They have the right to own a team. No is arguing that the government should come in and bar Ashkenazi Jews from owning anything. Some of us are merely addressing a clear class of nepotism and favoritism in certain fields when it comes to transfer of power, hiring practices and censorship. It's very evident it occurs. And when it occurs it's consequence is discrimination of all other citizens.
 
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NBA OWNERS BE LIKE

fukk THEM nikkaS

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Some European Jews are not really "white" per say. There are Sephardic, which are from Southern Europe, and there are Ashkenazi, which are from Eastern Europe. Sephardics are mostly what you would call Caucasoid, but Ashkenazis are actually more Mongoloid than anything else (with bits of caucasoid, negroid, proto-euroid, etc). The Ashkenazis, by the way, are the specific group that has produced the vast majority of scientists and artists from the Jewish community.

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this nikka talking like a eugenicist. da fukk is a euroid?
 
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It goes both ways. If you criticize Jews for being wealthy, then you should criticize Africans for being poor. Your decision... But no double standards, please.

Yup. These dudes love attributing certain inherent qualities to other ethnic groups... They dont even realize or acknowledge the flipside of that mindset:stopitslime:

the racist khazars are really coming outta the woodwork in this thread.
 

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Posted this in HL and I think it applies here. We should reconsider using the blanket term "Jewish":



We cant forget that Jews of color and non-European origin tend to suffer discrimination. They aren't getting the same favoritism and help. That's one thing Sterling spoke on that shouldn't be just pushed aside.

It may not be

Opinion: Black Jews remark may hurt Sterling as well - CNN.com

But we'll see. We'll see... especially now with Canadian Ted Cruz' asking for John Kerry to step down, after Kerry said Israel was on the road to apartheid.
 
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:mjlol:Adolf Hitler - Wikiquote


International Monetary Fund - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The IMF didn't exist until WW2 ended, my man.


Khazar myth - RationalWiki

You're buying into a myth popularized primarily by white racists, dude.

Well as stated in the Rationalwiki article I provided earlier, the idea that "the Jews" are not "Real Jews" is a myth. Ironically, the Khazar idea was first proposed by an author who hoped it would end antisemitism, or anti-jewism, or whatever term you semantic ham and eggers would like. DNA has shown that European Jews are of Middle Eastern descent. Same for African Jews and Asian Jews. Obviously, there are people who converted to Judaism. But the Ashkenazim are "Real Jews."

FALSE

DNA evidence has proven the opposite. European Jews are no different genetically than their eastern european neighbors (specifically Armenians and Georgians).

here is an article detailing the results of an Israeli geneticist who says DNA evidence pretty much confirms the Khazar hypothesis and exposes the lies of previous jewish scientists who tried to misrepresent genetic data.

'Jews a Race' Genetic Theory Comes Under Fierce Attack by DNA Expert – Forward.com

Scientists usually don’t call each other “liars” and “frauds.”

But that’s how Johns Hopkins University post-doctoral researcher Eran Elhaik describes a group of widely respected geneticists, including Harry Ostrer, professor of pathology and genetics at Yeshiva University’s Albert Einstein College of Medicine and author of the 2012 book “Legacy: A Genetic History of the Jewish People.”

For years now, the findings of Ostrer and several other scientists have stood virtually unchallenged on the genetics of Jews and the story they tell of the common Middle East origins shared by many Jewish populations worldwide. Jews — and Ashkenazim in particular — are indeed one people, Ostrer’s research finds.

It’s a theory that more or less affirms the understanding that many Jews themselves hold of who they are in the world: a people who, though scattered, share an ethnic-racial bond rooted in their common ancestral descent from the indigenous Jews of ancient Judea or Palestine, as the Romans called it after they conquered the Jewish homeland.

But now, Elhaik, an Israeli molecular geneticist, has published research that he says debunks this claim. And that has set off a predictable clash.

“He’s just wrong,” said Marcus Feldman of Stanford University, a leading researcher in Jewish genetics, referring to Elhaik.

The sometimes strong emotions generated by this scientific dispute stem from a politically loaded question that scientists and others have pondered for decades: Where in the world did Ashkenazi Jews come from?

The debate touches upon such sensitive issues as whether the Jewish people is a race or a religion, and whether Jews or Palestinians are descended from the original inhabitants of what is now the State of Israel.

Ostrer’s theory is sometimes marshaled to lend the authority of science to the Zionist narrative, which views the migration of modern-day Jews to what is now Israel, and their rule over that land, as a simple act of repossession by the descendants of the land’s original residents. Ostrer declined to be interviewed for this story. But in his writings, Ostrer points out the dangers of such reductionism; some of the same genetic markers common among Jews, he finds, can be found in Palestinians, as well.

By using sophisticated molecular tools, Feldman, Ostrer and most other scientists in the field have found that Jews are genetically homogeneous. No matter where they live, these scientists say, Jews are genetically more similar to each other than to their non-Jewish neighbors, and they have a shared Middle Eastern ancestry.

The geneticists’ research backs up what is known as the Rhineland Hypothesis. According to the hypothesis, Ashkenazi Jews descended from Jews who fled Palestine after the Muslim conquest in the seventh century and settled in Southern Europe. In the late Middle Ages they moved into eastern Europe from Germany, or the Rhineland.

“Nonsense,” said Elhaik, a 33-year-old Israeli Jew from Beersheba who earned a doctorate in molecular evolution from the University of Houston. The son of an Italian man and Iranian woman who met in Israel, Elhaik, a dark-haired, compact man, sat down recently for an interview in his bare, narrow cubicle of an office at Hopkins, where he’s worked for four years.

In “The Missing Link of Jewish European Ancestry: Contrasting the Rhineland and the Khazarian Hypotheses,” published in December in the online journal Genome Biology and Evolution, Elhaik says he has proved that Ashkenazi Jews’ roots lie in the Caucasus — a region at the border of Europe and Asia that lies between the Black and Caspian seas — not in the Middle East. They are descendants, he argues, of the Khazars, a Turkic people who lived in one of the largest medieval states in Eurasia and then migrated to Eastern Europe in the 12th and 13th centuries. Ashkenazi genes, Elhaik added, are far more heterogeneous than Ostrer and other proponents of the Rhineland Hypothesis believe. Elhaik did find a Middle Eastern genetic marker in DNA from Jews, but, he says, it could be from Iran, not ancient Judea.

Elhaik writes that the Khazars converted to Judaism in the eighth century, although many historians believe that only royalty and some members of the aristocracy converted. But widespread conversion by the Khazars is the only way to explain the ballooning of the European Jewish population to 8 million at the beginning of the 20th century from its tiny base in the Middle Ages, Elhaik says.

Elhaik bases his conclusion on an analysis of genetic data published by a team of researchers led by Doron Behar, a population geneticist and senior physician at Israel’s Rambam Medical Center, in Haifa. Using the same data, Behar’s team published in 2010 a paper concluding that most contemporary Jews around the world and some non-Jewish populations from the Levant, or Eastern Mediterranean, are closely related.

Elhaik used some of the same statistical tests as Behar and others, but he chose different comparisons. Elhaik compared “genetic signatures” found in Jewish populations with those of modern-day Armenians and Georgians, which he uses as a stand-in for the long-extinct Khazarians because they live in the same area as the medieval state.

“It’s an unrealistic premise,” said University of Arizona geneticist Michael Hammer, one of Behar’s co-authors, of Elhaik’s paper. Hammer notes that Armenians have Middle Eastern roots, which, he says, is why they appeared to be genetically related to Ashkenazi Jews in Elhaik’s study.

Hammer, who also co-wrote the first paper that showed modern-day Kohanim are descended from a single male ancestor, calls Elhaik and other Khazarian Hypothesis proponents “outlier folks… who have a minority view that’s not supported scientifically. I think the arguments they make are pretty weak and stretching what we know.”

Feldman, director of Stanford’s Morrison Institute for Population and Resource Studies, echoes Hammer. “If you take all of the careful genetic population analysis that has been done over the last 15 years… there’s no doubt about the common Middle Eastern origin,” he said. He added that Elhaik’s paper “is sort of a one-off.”

Elhaik’s statistical analysis would not pass muster with most contemporary scholars, Feldman said: “He appears to be applying the statistics in a way that gives him different results from what everybody else has obtained from essentially similar data.”

Elhaik, who doesn’t believe that Moses, Aaron or the 12 Tribes of Israel ever existed, shrugs off such criticism.

“That’s a circular argument,” he said of the notion that Jews’ and Armenians’ genetic similarities stem from common ancestors in the Middle East and not from Khazaria, the area where the Armenians live. If you believe that, he says, then other non-Jewish populations, such as Georgian, that are genetically similar to Armenians should be considered genetically related to Jews, too, “and so on and so forth.”


Read more: 'Jews a Race' Genetic Theory Comes Under Fierce Attack by DNA Expert – Forward.com


there you go. a jewish scientist exposing lies from other jewish scientists who took genetic data and twisted it to fit their zionist agenda.

as he said in the article, if ashkenazi jews are gonna claim jewish ancestry because they have some middle eastern genes, then the armenians and georgians are also jews.

the dna evidence confirms what we all intuitively know. the so-called jews are europeans who converted to judiasm a thousands years ago. like President Nasser said, you can't leave Egypt as black 2,000 years ago and come back white and claim to be the same people. there might be some elements of true jewish blood in the ashkenazi but they are mostly cac europeans that converted and are now stealing another peoples history.
 
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Only Jews of non-European origin suffer discrimination? Bro, wake the fukk up. What happened for 1000 years in Europe that led to Jews being wealthy? They were not allowed to own land or hold most jobs. They took the only jobs that the other Euros allowed them to have, jobs that the Euros did not want for themselves (for religious reasons or otherwise), and these businesses were sometimes banks. They always lived in cities because that was the only place they could live. Then, the Holocaust.

This hate is just stupid.

I don't dispute anything you said here. I don't deny the holocaust or that Jews were openly persecuted in the Inquisition and other times in Europe. I understand 100% why they are a tight group. I understand 100% why they are dominant in certain fields. I understand 100% their work ethic and commitment to education.

But what I don't understand is why all of that gives them a pass from criticism in America and Israel. This country has two different populations who went through the same sort of genocide and holocausts at much larger levels, so why should we have to keep quiet when a significant chunk of White Supremacy and Class discrimination happens to come from a population who happened to be persecuted on another continent? In what world does that make sense?

This argument that Azhkenazi Jews are some persecuted and disfranchised minority in America is absolutely insulting to our black and native citizens. Let the Europeans answer for their crimes against the Azhkenazis, not Americans and Palestenians.

Whether you like it or not, it's very natural for people at the bottom rungs of society to look up at who their leaders are, whether it be government, business, entertainment or sports. One thing I agree with you is that the solution to this in my opinion is a class issue first and foremost, but that involves pointing out the make up of the ruling class. That shyt is mainly all WASPs and Azkhenazis. It's very natural for people to wonder why 1-2% of a democracy of 300 million people are overwhelmingly represented in all facets of social life at a disproportionate rate. By merely insinuating that these people just are superior, or they work harder is a slap in the face to others.
 

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I don't dispute anything you said here. I don't deny the holocaust or that Jews were openly persecuted in the Inquisition and other times in Europe. I understand 100% why they are a tight group. I understand 100% why they are dominant in certain fields. I understand 100% their work ethic and commitment to education.

But what I don't understand is why all of that gives them a pass from criticism in America and Israel. This country has two different populations who went through the same sort of genocide and holocausts at much larger levels, so why should we have to keep quiet when a significant chunk of White Supremacy and Class discrimination happens to come from a population who happened to be persecuted on another continent? In what world does that make sense?

This argument that Azhkenazi Jews are some persecuted and disfranchised minority in America is absolutely insulting to our black and native citizens. Let the Europeans answer for their crimes against the Azhkenazis, not Americans and Palestenians.

Whether you like it or not, it's very natural for people at the bottom rungs of society to look up at who their leaders are, whether it be government, business, entertainment or sports. One thing I agree with you is that the solution to this in my opinion is a class issue first and foremost, but that involves pointing out the make up of the ruling class. That shyt is mainly all WASPs and Azkhenazis. It's very natural for people to wonder why 1-2% of a democracy of 300 million people are overwhelmingly represented in all facets of social life at a disproportionate rate. By merely insinuating that these people just are superior, or they work harder is a slap in the face to others.

No one likes being slapped, but sometimes facts are very inconvenient. That's the most brutal truth I can put out there. And just as people feel insulted if they know or are told their group is worse, people will also feel prideful and sometimes boastful if their group is better. Better/worse is usually such a relative concept, of course. But why do we do this? We're human. I think it's best to drop the pretenses and admit that we're human.

That being said, surely the groups in power today had massive amounts of inherited advantage leading up that point. Power does not re-distribute in a single generation. I've stated that over and over.
 

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this nikka talking like a eugenicist. da fukk is a euroid?
I meant to say Proto-Europoid, which basically means an old version of European. Race is hard because everything moves on a spectrum. It's not like, one moment you're in Asia and then the next moment you're in Europe. Then, consider the long history of empires rising and falling. The Europeans that live in, say Austria, today may be fairly different from people of the same area around 3,000 years ago. Keep in mind that much of the "white world" today all come from a few Germanic tribes on the northern and western coasts of Europe (speaking of the Normans, Angles, Saxons, and Jutes). They sailed to England, Ireland, Australia, and North America and founded countries there. Some of these northern and western Germanic tribes stayed back and founded basically the pillars of mainland Europe today, like France, Spain, and Germany. All of that was from a few tribes.

Proto-Europoid captures that they did not really descend from that particular Germanic civilization group. The Jews that traveled around Eastern Europe were mostly segregated, so you look at where their European influence came from: they basically left the Middle East, which is at the confluence of all three major continents. This gave them a spread of a bit of everything, but they are really more Mongoloid (Asian) being that there was limited immigration to the Middle East due to Caucus mountains to the north and a narrow desert-laden connection to Africa to the west. When they did get their European influence while living in the Middle East, it was a European stock possibly quite different from the average stock that you see today.
 

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Except it's usually a certain kind of rich person.
A rich person that likes basketball? Lots of rich people are Jewish? I'm not disagreeing so far... However, some want to take it to another level as to say 'Jews are evil', 'Jews are plotting against the world', or something like that.


What kind of logic is this? Explain your argument.
The argument slightly depends upon *why* you would want to criticize Jews. If you have a criticism, throw it out there, and I'll lay out my argument.

I can say thought that it's a good general rule for everyone to be responsible for themselves. If you won, you earned it. If you lost, you earned that too. That's in reference to societies, not individuals who are going to have a wide range of inherited conditions.


They have the right to own a team. No is arguing that the government should come in and bar Ashkenazi Jews from owning anything. Some of us are merely addressing a clear class of nepotism and favoritism in certain fields when it comes to transfer of power, hiring practices and censorship. It's very evident it occurs. And when it occurs it's consequence is discrimination of all other citizens.
I highly doubt that they grant favors based upon religion or even race. There's a club out there, and they expect you to have money and act a certain way, and you and I are not invited. We could absolutely talk about the existing oligarchy in America as a whole. But my basic disagreement here is the correlation vs causation conundrum. Many people throughout history have held this notion that Jews are evil, so therefore that would cause not only a takeover of everyone else, but a very mean one. I would say to them that there are only correlations, not causations, because Jews aren't inherently evil; the modern-day ones just have a handful of inherited advantages along with being naturally quite bright. The one true causation that exists universally is money and power. Money and power practically always makes the owner of said money/power to seek more money/power. And nepotism and favoritism always follows money/power, not just certain groups that have it. From here to Hong Kong, that happens. So if you want to talk about a general oligarchy, let's talk about it.
 
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No one likes being slapped, but sometimes facts are very inconvenient. That's the most brutal truth I can put out there. And just as people feel insulted if they know or are told their group is worse, people will also feel prideful and sometimes boastful if their group is better. Better/worse is usually such a relative concept, of course. But why do we do this? We're human. I think it's best to drop the pretenses and admit that we're human.

That being said, surely the groups in power today had massive amounts of inherited advantage leading up that point. Power does not re-distribute in a single generation. I've stated that over and over.

you ain't answer one thing he said in the post. this jumbled ramble you posted makes no sense.
 

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No one likes being slapped, but sometimes facts are very inconvenient. That's the most brutal truth I can put out there. And just as people feel insulted if they know or are told their group is worse, people will also feel prideful and sometimes boastful if their group is better. Better/worse is usually such a relative concept, of course. But why do we do this? We're human. I think it's best to drop the pretenses and admit that we're human.

That being said, surely the groups in power today had massive amounts of inherited advantage leading up that point. Power does not re-distribute in a single generation. I've stated that over and over.


Let's just be clear that you essentially advocated racial supremacy in this post. You either seem to think that:

A) This subset of human beings are superior (on some Nazi shyt)

or

B) You seem to think that other populations don't work as hard to attain these positions (common bootstraps argument from conservatives). This is garbage racist thinking from the start. You're saying that a group of 2 million Jewish Americans will always produce better individuals and hiring rates than a combined group of 33 Million African Americans and 3 million Natives even though the probability of this is highly unlikely.
 
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