Alright so lets say Kakarot NEVER existed

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questions though,

if Broly killed his dad, he takes the mind control thing off who controls Broly now?

does Broly dad knowing that King vegeta did him wrong turns broly to killing Vegeta?

does Vegeta knowing he cant beat Broly pushes himself to the extent in which he became a Super Saiyan before

 

[ExodusNirvana]

Freiza is less powerful than every supersaiyan we've ever seen, its as simple as that.

COOLER is about as powerful as early SSJ goku though...that was a BRAWL

Cooler was that DUDE

That 2nd movie when him and Goku finally start fighting? Dudes were damn near rolling on the ground just getting it IN

 

[Ed MOTHEREFFING G]

questions though,

if Broly killed his dad, he takes the mind control thing off who controls Broly now?

does Broly dad knowing that King vegeta did him wrong turns broly to killing Vegeta?

does Vegeta knowing he cant beat Broly pushes himself to the extent in which he became a Super Saiyan before

forgot all about that...Vegeta is a dead man

 

[Jplaya2023]

the oxygen thing is such a giant plothole in DBZ too

one scene vegeta and nappa are floating out in space blowing up planets with a single blast
another scene goku can't breathe in space
another scene bardock is flying out into space to take on frieza and freiza and his elite are chilling out in open space like its nothin

2 of the scenes are filler (never happened in the manga) i'll let you take a guess at which 2.

 

[HYDRO]

SMH Broly isn't as strong as you guys think he is. Frieza was more than capable of beating Goku, he just wasnt as good of a fighter. Frieza was lazy and spoiled but not weak at all. SMH at people saying, "Oh Frieza tried to cut off Goku's oxygen." Mother fukkers. If we get into a fight and I choke you out and walk away does that not mean I won? Broly was strong, yah, that's given, In the end he still lost in the end he wasnt shyt for a fighter and in the very very very end he was just a huge cry baby. Frieza wouldve blown him to bits.

 

[Jplaya2023]

I'm seeing Cell name pop up in this thread, but if Goku never existed, would Dr. Gero have even created Cell, seeing as he used Goku's genes?
Shiiiiiit, if Raditz, Nappa, and Vegeta conquered Earth during their first visit, they would've probably crossed paths with Gero anyway and dead him loooooong before he even begins work on the Androids.

I think the only logic answers are Broly or the Supreme Kai.

brolly doesn't exist in DBZ. Piccolo would've killed gero in DB.

Supreme Kai would do nothing as usual because he's a POS

 

[Ed MOTHEREFFING G]

LOL @ brolly looking at vegeta like "what I care about freiza you styled on my dad " and Raditz, Nappa, Vegeta like

Raditz and Vegeta gonna have to do the fusion dance vs. Brolly just to get their head cracked twice...once together and once seperate

 

[Ed MOTHEREFFING G]

brolly doesn't exist in DBZ. Piccolo would've killed gero in DB.

Supreme Kai would do nothing as usual because he's a POS

dude, Brolly exists to us and in this conversation. Get over it or move on.

 

[Ed MOTHEREFFING G]

SMH Broly isn't as strong as you guys think he is. Frieza was more than capable of beating Goku, he just wasnt as good of a fighter. Frieza was lazy and spoiled but not weak at all. SMH at people saying, "Oh Frieza tried to cut off Goku's oxygen." Mother fukkers. If we get into a fight and I choke you out and walk away does that not mean I won? Broly was strong, yah, that's given, In the end he still lost in the end he wasnt shyt for a fighter and in the very very very end he was just a huge cry baby. Frieza wouldve blown him to bits.

Freiza was not 'more than capable' of beating goku. IF that was the case, why was he scared shytless when goku transformed? Why did trunks take his lunch money? Freiza was outmatched breh. He is not as powerful as a supersaiyan

 

[HYDRO]

Freiza was not 'more than capable' of beating goku. IF that was the case, why was he scared shytless when goku transformed? Why did trunks take his lunch money? Freiza was outmatched breh. He is not as powerful as a supersaiyan

Outmatched fighting skill wise, power wise, no. Yeah later on after SS2 he was probably way outclassed by all the SS but it's just not the case on planet Namek. Goku went SS and Frieza was scared because some stupid legend was true not because he didnt think he couldnt beat Goku, infact go back and watch the battle, Goku gets his ass beat pretty good until he realizes Frieza can't sense power levels. And like I said, Trunks was fighting Androids in the future for years before he went back in time. The Androids outclassed Frieza by far.

And you know what..just to put this whole rediculous thing to rest. Bills would've woke up. Sense whoever was out there the strongest. Said fukk it and went and killed that mother fukker. The End

 

[Jplaya2023]

SMH Broly isn't as strong as you guys think he is. Frieza was more than capable of beating Goku, he just wasnt as good of a fighter. Frieza was lazy and spoiled but not weak at all. SMH at people saying, "Oh Frieza tried to cut off Goku's oxygen." Mother fukkers. If we get into a fight and I choke you out and walk away does that not mean I won? Broly was strong, yah, that's given, In the end he still lost in the end he wasnt shyt for a fighter and in the very very very end he was just a huge cry baby. Frieza wouldve blown him to bits.

you're clueless.

1. Brolly does not exist

2. If he did exist he would kill frieza in a single blow as he's roughly as strong as USSJ2 trunks who beat 2nd form cell to a pulp. All of these chars are leagues above frieza.

 

[Ed MOTHEREFFING G]

Outmatched fighting skill wise, power wise, no. Yeah later on after SS2 he was probably way outclassed by all the SS but it's just not the case on planet Namek. Goku went SS and Frieza was scared because some stupid legend was true not because he didnt think he couldnt beat Goku, infact go back and watch the battle, Goku gets his ass beat pretty good until he realizes Frieza can't sense power levels. And like I said, Trunks was fighting Androids in the future for years before he went back in time. The Androids outclassed Frieza by far.

I have no idea what you're basing this on. I mean...piccolo held his own with Freiza for a while. And fighting skill is arbitrary...Freiza has had countless battles, it is RIDICULOUS to believe that he was not an accomplished fighter

 

[HYDRO]

I have no idea what you're basing this on. I mean...piccolo held his own with Freiza for a while. And fighting skill is arbitrary...Freiza has had countless battles, it is RIDICULOUS to believe that he was not an accomplished fighter

Picolo was a better fighter. What do you mean? What am I basing it on? I'm basing it on the fact that Frieza was a lazy little daddy's girl and Picolo spent his whole life training and then died and trained with a literal god (even though technically, he was a god) and then what happened? Frieza leveled up and fukked up Piccolo until Vegeta stepped in, fukked him up and then Goku showed up and proceeded to fukk him up even as a SS until Goku realized he could out "martial arts" or whatever Frieza. It is what it is. The whole reason Goku got up and left was that he knew he could out fight Frieza, because Frieza was strong but not a good fighter. Goku wanted a fight, not a contest of strengths.

 

[CurrencyChase]

Maybe Brolly would have grown into a good guy since he didnt have to hear Goku crying.

that boy look more asian, breh..your wife dna dominating yours. but he might look blacker when hes older though. i think he'll be in that tiger wood mold.

 

[ExodusNirvana]

I have no idea what you're basing this on. I mean...piccolo held his own with Freiza for a while. And fighting skill is arbitrary...Freiza has had countless battles, it is RIDICULOUS to believe that he was not an accomplished fighter

And what's worse...Broly wasn't some elite skilled fighter, he just put the organic all natural ass whoopin on the Z Fighters. Trained martial artists.

The though of what dude would do to Frieza...it wouldn't even be Shounen anymore