Alt-right must be RESISTED (anti-fascist action)!!!!!!!

Althalucian

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I have to ask you all a question, especially those who are skeptical of this:

Do you guys follow racist websites? Websites that explicitly call for the death of the black man, the jew, and the subservience of women? I do. This alt-right movement is beyond dangerous at this point in time. Like gasoline all over America. It has been increasing in number over the years. I should know - I've been going to these websites for many years (to understand these people) and their popularity has exploded in the past 4 years. I tried to tell people two years ago that I think I'm seeing a dangerous new trend. A type of new racism. Young whites, most of them who feel like they are less off than others, are turning to this ideology because right wing media has been pushing the narrative that white males are aggrieved. That white males are at risk of being wiped off the map. That everyone is against them. Republicans and right wing media have radicalized a group of people, and they're still doing it. It's not stopping. It won't stop. Know that.

The alt-right is a cancer, or perhaps more like a disease. More like HIV in that it infects others. Even a small strain of it can explode and infect everyone.

The difference between the alt-right and this fictitious alt-left is that the alt-right IS the man. Right? The alt-right is the worst of white America for the entirety for the history of the country. The alt-right is the result of republicans refusing to admit history while courting ignorant people and in so doing, they have convinced millions of white people that racism and prejudice has had no effect economically and psychologically on black people (let alone white people a la James Baldwin).

If the alt-right gains a foothold now, which it looks like it might, understand that it is akin to when the KKK gained a foothold in America in the 20s and the 60s. When millions of people joined and the American people were sympathetic to them. It's almost cyclical. And no, this argument that "racism has always been racist so this is no different" is wrongheaded - things change for the better or for the worse all the time. We had two black US senators during reconstruction (appointed by legislatures in Mississippi), then we didn't have another black US senator for another 92 years. Then not again for another 13 years. Then not again for another 6 years.

We have had 10 black US senators in total despite 1,963 US senators in US history. 10 out of 1963.

1 black president, and they nominate Donald J. Trump. These are related events. (I know someone who recently came out as being a part of the alt-right community, arguing for ethno-nationalism and the like. They even got the white supremacist Richard Spencer haircut. Crazy stuff.) Right wing media have been stoking the fires they needed to keep their narrative up.
 

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This gif completely gives itself away with so many false equivalencies.

Reparations are a "penalty on innocent whites?" So if a veteran of the Iraq War gets a pension from the tax dollars of someone who didn't support the war in the first place, is that a "penalty on peaceful whites?" If someone receives Medicaid, do we call it a "penalty on healthy whites?" If someone gets social security, do we call it a "penalty on young whites?" Nope, those are all social responsibilities, not "white shaming."

"Threatening to sue if services aren't rendered, like baking a cake?" Those people sued because their state had a public accommodations law which guaranteed them rights. Whether the law should be written differently is beside the point. They sued because their legal rights were violated. It's not about the fukking cake.

And no one is advocating for indiscriminate slaughter of every law enforcement officer. But if a cop doesn't get the message, what are you supposed to do? Let him kill you and then have candlelight vigils until the next shooting? At some point, self-defense becomes an issue.

:camby:
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That graphic literally compares reparations to deporting millions of people by force of arms and requiring religious litmus tests for office.

I can't with this "moderation" fetish. There's no reason to be "moderate" if the other side is flat wrong.
:mjlol:

A moderate isn't someone that defaults to the middle. a moderate is someone that looks at both sides and agrees and disagrees with issues on both.
a moderate isn't going to blindly follow someone or something. If they feel that one side has an issue that is "flat wrong" they aren't afraid to express that and let you know.

this differs from the sheep that blindly follow(on either side) who may not necessarily agree with everything on the left or right but are too afraid to say anything in fear of being outcasted from their fellow "leftists" or "rightists"
 

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No, no. Don't withdraw into smilies. Please explain why you think reparations would be an unfair penalty on innocent whites. And then I want you to explain to me why your graphic juxtaposes paying reparations with forced deportation.

Reparations (transitional justice) - Wikipedia

Canada – For more than 100 years, Canada retained a practice of removing indigenous Canadian children from their families and placing them in church-run Indian residential schools (IRS). This process was part of an effort to homogenize Canadian society, and included the prohibition of native language and cultural practices. In 1991, the Canadian government established the Royal Commission on Aboriginal Peoples (RCAP), charged with exploring the relationship between aboriginal peoples, the government, and society.

As a result of the commission’s recommendations, the government symbolically issued an apology in a “Statement of Reconciliation,” admitting that the schools were designed on racist models of assimilation. Pope Benedict XVI also issued an apology on behalf of church members who were involved in the practice.[13] In addition, the government provided a $350 million fund to help those affected by the schools.[14] In 2006, the federal government signed the Indian Residential Schools Settlement Agreement, agreeing to provide reparations to the survivors of this program. The Settlement totals approximately $2 billion, and includes financial compensation, a truth commission, and support services.[15]

Chile – In 1990, Chile’s newly elected president Patricio Aylwin created the National Truth and Reconciliation Commission to investigate the human rights abuses of General Augusto Pinochet’s 1973-1990 dictatorial regime. The commission investigated disappearances, political executions, and torture, publishing the Rettig Report with its findings in 1991. Afterwards, its work was continued by the National Corporation for Reparations and Reconciliation. These programs recommended reparations for the victims, including: monthly pensions, educational benefits for the children of the disappeared, exemption from military service, and priority access to health services.

However, these initiatives have also been criticized on a variety of grounds, such as their refusal to identify the perpetrators of violence and their failure to recognize a comprehensive range of victims to whom reparations are due.

Morocco – In Morocco, the period between the 1960s and 1990s is often referred to as the “years of lead,” referring to the massive human rights violations that occurred in the government’s campaign of political oppression, including executions, torture, and the annihilation of other civil liberties. Shortly after he ascended the throne in 1999, King Mohammed VI created the Independent Arbitration Commission (IAC) to compensate the victims of forced disappearances and arbitrary detention. The IAC decided more than 5,000 cases and awarded a total of US$100 million, but victims and their families complained of lack of transparency in the tribunal’s procedures and demanded truth seeking measures in addition to financial compensation.

These pressures were instrumental in leading to the 2004 creation of the Arab world’s first official truth-seeking initiative, the Equity and Reconciliation Commission. The IER issued a ground-breaking reparations policy that upheld notions of gender equity and resulted in roughly $85 million USD in financial compensation paid to almost 10,000 individuals, as well as recommendations on other measures such as the provision of health care and restoration of civil rights. The IER’s recommendations also led to a groundbreaking collective reparations program that combined symbolic recognition of human rights violations with a development component in eleven regions that had suffered from collective punishment.[16] As of May 2010, implementation of the collective reparations program was ongoing.

Other reparations programs have been proposed and/or implemented in: Argentina, Brazil, Cambodia, Colombia, the Democratic Republic of Congo, East Timor, El Salvador, Germany, Ghana, Guatemala, Haiti, Iraq, Malawi, Liberia, South Africa, Kenya, the United States, and others.[17][18]
 

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A moderate isn't someone that defaults to the middle. a moderate is someone that looks at both sides and agrees and disagrees with issues on both.
a moderate isn't going to blindly follow someone or something. If they feel that one side has an issue that is "flat wrong" they aren't afraid to express that and let you know.

I realize that's what you want a moderate to be, but that's not what a moderate is.

the definition of moderate

noun
6.
a person who is moderate in opinion or opposed to extreme views and actions, especially in politics or religion.
7.
(usually initial capital letter) a member of a political party advocating moderate reform.

A moderate is not a person who picks and chooses among the extreme stances of two clearly defined sides, like an ideological grocery shopper. A moderate is someone who simply DOES NOT TAKE extreme stances, or takes watered down versions of extreme stances.
 

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Here's the big question here. I'm good with dealing with the alt right nutters on the streets but how the fukk do we counter these motherfukkers online without getting banned on other forums? A lot of the alt right cacs are slipping their ideals into forums that I visit and when I call them on it these motherfukkers pull a brigade on you and try to get you banned.

Mods cant really root them out because these cacs play the Moscow Rules to avoid bans.
 

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No, no. Don't withdraw into smilies. Please explain why you think reparations would be an unfair penalty on innocent whites. And then I want you to explain to me why your graphic juxtaposes paying reparations with forced deportation.

Reparations (transitional justice) - Wikipedia
I'm laughing because you think I was the one that created it, or even believe it 100%(which I said it wasn't 100% perfect)

I am NOT against some form of reparations personally. I think it would be fair if their was some way to give back to those that were systemically fukked over(so to speak).
but I don't think it is fair for therer to be legislation that excludes anyone based on their race(whites included).

this is what I mean when I say I am a moderate. I can look at both sides and tell you what i agree with or don't agree with(however, I don't agree with much if ANYTHING from both of these far right/left wackos)
 

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I realize that's what you want a moderate to be, but that's not what a moderate is.

the definition of moderate



A moderate is not a person who picks and chooses among the extreme stances of two clearly defined sides, like an ideological grocery shopper. A moderate is someone who simply DOES NOT TAKE extreme stances, or takes watered down versions of extreme stances.
bruh, I'm telling you AS A MODERATE, and who works, speaks, talks with many other moderates that that just isn't true.

It's not just about extremes. It's about everything. A moderate will look at a policy regardless of who it is aligned with and tell you where they stand on it. thats pretty much the point right there.

left and right clowns are to busy waving their banners and screaming through megaphones to actually care, as long as they win.


Strip away WHO is saying something, and focus on WHAT they are saying. if they say something you agree with then you roll with that, if they say something you are against then you go with that.

stop with this cheerleading ass bullshyt
 

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These responses let's me know when the shyts hits the fan yall will willingly allow yourselves to be dominated by fascists.
You're a fukking coward and a pitiful excuse for a man.

:camby:

Alright man. .. this would be offensive if it was coming from an actual man..

And a cac at that..

Go ahead and feel yourself and good luck with your lgbt/feminist revolution.
 
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