Am I late on Kevin Samuels clowning Dr. Umar? Update: Umar Fires Back

[kaldurahm]

Saw a shortened video in YouTube and in general I liked what Umar said, but I wish there wasn't a "beef" between these dudes and I don't really rock with Kevin Samuels like that. Like everything I take a little from all these dudes and form my own opinions. Overall though I don't think there's a big issue with Kev's content, I think it's other associated acts that take it too far.


But I agree, digging black women is corny and I've been guilty of doing it in the past

 

[King]

The Official Beef Thread of Kevin Samuels & Dr. Umar Johnson | KTT2

Damn that forum seem way more lit than thecoli

 

[RedCloakBlackWraithe]

KS says he don't beef with nikkas...

 

[kaldurahm]

I don't pay attention to either of these two that much but damn it sucks to see these two black men go at each other, these two could both be building together

This. In the end it's just unproductive. They both over 40, too. At worst KS has his own audience and Umar has his. Were always tryna tear each other down for no reason

 

[TripleAgent]

He really isn't.

I'm not on either side, but don't do that. Umar is a great orator. If his business skill was equal to his oratory skills, he'd be able to afford 5 schools already.

 

[GilSho]

Umar is absolutely right. Some BW crave validation and clout so much they're willing to be embarrassed in front of hundreds of thousands. Subjecting yourself to humiliation so some zesty ass "life coach" with two failed marriages on his dome can appeal to his followers.

And for the people that claim he doesn't have anything against BW...



This fakkit claims beauty isn't subjective. And it's a scientific fact black women are the most unattractive women on earth. And they're starting to look "more masculine".

 

[Easy-E]

He claims he doesn't waste time going at people because they aren't important enough (politician, religious leader, etc.), but, worried about KS

Is this man still homeless, filming from the passenger side of cars and parks and shyt?

 

[get these nets]

I don't pay attention to either of these two that much but damn it sucks to see these two black men go at each other, these two could both be building together

Building what exactly?
These guys deliver sermons on YouTube. There's always going to be friction between all the youtubers who cater to roughly the same audience. The "collection plate" is only but so big, and dudes see their cut of it being threatened by the next guy.

You either build or destroy. Competition for the revenue stream means that they will chose to destroy.

 

[Fani Willis fan]

 

[Fani Willis fan]

Building what exactly?
These guys deliver sermons on YouTube. There's always going to be friction between all the youtubers who cater to roughly the same audience. The "collection plate" is only but so big, and dudes see their cut of it being threatened by the next guy.

You either build or destroy. Competition for the revenue stream means that they will chose to destroy.

In terms of engagement and transaction, KS seems to be the Michael Jordan of grifting in the black community.
You can tell he was an asset in sales

 

[Easy-E]

Umar is absolutely right. Some BW crave validation and clout so much they're willing to be embarrassed in front of hundreds of thousands. Subjecting yourself to humiliation so some zesty ass "life coach" with two failed marriages on his dome can appeal to his followers.

And for the people that claim he doesn't have anything against BW...



This fakkit claims beauty isn't subjective. And it's a scientific fact black women are the most unattractive women on earth. And they're starting to look "more masculine".

So, you post a less than 20 second clip to a show and we're supposed to make a judgement.

And the video is trolling for views;

"will release additional audio clips in the coming days. Kevin's team will try to get this removed."

Will ya'll just argue the man's points?

He's gay? Okay.

He hates black man? You're right.

He believes in the Golden Ratio? He's a c00n, great.

Now, what?

You win, what about the shyt that's said about the state of black relationships?

 

[get these nets]

Umar is absolutely right. Some BW crave validation and clout so much they're willing to be embarrassed in front of hundreds of thousands. Subjecting yourself to humiliation so some zesty ass "life coach" with two failed marriages on his dome can appeal to his followers.

And for the people that claim he doesn't have anything against BW...



This fakkit claims beauty isn't subjective. And it's a scientific fact black women are the most unattractive women on earth. And they're starting to look "more masculine".

The thing about these kinds of videos is that the (non)reaction to them by followers confirms the father figure status that these youtubers have.
Logic, reasoning, pride gets thrown out the window along the way as the follower repeatedly listens to their preacher. To the point that they will cop pleas for or ignore any criticism of the person. And ignore repulsive comments that they made.

The guy posting the exposal could have done a better job. He should have played the full audio, and explained the setting of the interview. That way, you allow people to form their own opinions, instead he opted to devote 20 minutes of commentary about 30 seconds of audio. Overkill.
But, unless his words were taken out of context or edited, KS said exactly what the vid advertised.

 

[GilSho]

So, you post a less than 20 second clip to a show and we're supposed to make a judgement.

What's out of context about that clip exactly? Those were literally his words. And I know plenty of nikkas that regurgitate that c00n shyt so I'm not surprised you're brushing that shyt off.

I don't follow that nikka religiously like some of y'all because I actually have a father but if you've seen one of his videos you've seen them all. BW are masculine, overweight, unfeminine, unattractive etc.

 

[havoc]

Umar is absolutely right. Some BW crave validation and clout so much they're willing to be embarrassed in front of hundreds of thousands. Subjecting yourself to humiliation so some zesty ass "life coach" with two failed marriages on his dome can appeal to his followers.

And for the people that claim he doesn't have anything against BW...



This fakkit claims beauty isn't subjective. And it's a scientific fact black women are the most unattractive women on earth. And they're starting to look "more masculine".

Oh shyt. This is not looking good.

 

[Easy-E]

What's out of context about that clip exactly? Those were literally his words. And I know plenty of nikkas that regurgitate that c00n shyt so I'm not surprised you're brushing that shyt off.

I don't follow that nikka religiously like some of y'all because I actually have a father but if you've seen one of his videos you've seen them all. BW are masculine, overweight, unfeminine, unattractive etc.

I'm not brushing it off. Hit me with the full clip. There's a reason the video is title "EXPOSED."

I don't agree with every thing KS says. But, I'm tired of these weak ass arguments.

Again, he hates black women, fine, you're right? What now?

Yes, I don't have a father, either? You win, that one, too. Ya'll nikkas are childish. Ya'll project with this "father figure" shyt because ya'll can't stand nuance.