Am I the only one who doesn't see anything Walt did as evil?

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His motivations behind a lot of those acts that you listed come from a pretty dark place. Him deciding to cook meth when Grey Matter offered him a way out is evil. Poisoning children to manipulate people is fukking evil.



:what: Evil why what standard, drugs is bad? Ask for Walt poisoning Brock, he had every intention on saving the kid. It was a fukked up move but no one was hurt in the process; it aint evil.
Its like some of you guys have no sense of morality. Heroes aren't driven by pride and ego, villains are
:comeon:You sounding real sheltered breh. The term "hero complex" exists because its an actual phenomena. Batman, Superman, Spiderman are all prideful, egotistics. What makes you a villain is the intent to cause suffering and acting on said intent. The only people Walt intented to cause suffering on were acted on were on murderers, drug lords, and fiends. Acceptable targets; Walt is an anti hero because of it.
 

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:russ: I can tell you haven't read the books and if you did :merchant:
I have read the books, the guy is doing what's right, if some people get hurt, they should be on his side in the first place. He is a true hero in that world, saving lives and ending others is a just and righteous thing to do.
 

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No. Its called being a man. People don't choose to do criminal activity because they want to. They do it because they have to. If I have no toher way to provide for my family then I woulda done the same. But then again I'm not that brave so I'd be scared. But if I wasn't scared I would do it too if put in the same position.

Some do, and Walt admitted that he did it because he wanted to
 

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I have read the books, the guy is doing what's right, if some people get hurt, they should be on his side in the first place. He is a true hero in that world, saving lives and ending others is a just and righteous thing to do.

But we don't even know his true motives yet... Don't know if you read my theory on him where he represents the renaissance but even so dude don't seem quite right.

How is Littlefinger of all people the true hero? He's playing the game of thrones.
While Jon Snow and Stannis are the few who are actually trying to do something to prevent icy doom for everyone. Those two are the true heroes in the story at the moment.
 

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No. Its called being a man. People don't choose to do criminal activity because they want to. They do it because they have to. If I have no toher way to provide for my family then I woulda done the same. But then again I'm not that brave so I'd be scared. But if I wasn't scared I would do it too if put in the same position.

So this all boils down to you living vicariously through a fictional character because you are too p'u'ssy to be a 'real man' yourself, let me guess you probably wear shirts with Pablo Escobar images on them
 

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Littlefinger is a hero?! the hell is wrong with some of you :mindblown:
Well what did he do that was wrong beside starting a war because he was bored? He is undermining the true villains the Lannisters at every turn. Do some people get hurt yes, but he is a heroic figure fighting oppression at every turn.
 
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Walt's whole foray into meth dealing was evil (not just from the drug dealer standpoint, but to the position he put his family in, without any of their consent)...what show were you guys watching?
 

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Well what did he do that was wrong beside starting a war because he was bored? He is undermining the true villains the Lannisters at every turn. Do some people get hurt yes, but he is a heroic figure fighting oppression at every turn.

Wait, how are the Lannisters true villains? Everybody playing the game of thrones are either trying to maintain or elevate their position. Littlefinger seems to be doing whatever he's doing just because he can.
 

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Wait, how are the Lannisters true villains? Everybody playing the game of thrones are either trying to maintain or elevate their position. Littlefinger seems to be doing whatever he's doing just because he can.
Well did he turn over Arya? Does he protect Sansa? He provides for the girls in his brothel? He takes care of his spies and he plays the game fair and square. Just with more cunning than honorable Ned Stark who didn't get the rules are grey.
 

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Well did he turn over Arya?

I can't really answer that one 100% since that encounter never happened in the books and I sort of don't count it as canon. If I have to poke at why he didn't turn Arya in I'd say he had bigger fish to fry at the moment (Tyrell/Lannister alliance and maybe he thought he could use that information later) and snitching to Tywin right then would have done nothing for him but maybe get a :ohhh: out of the man and Cersei's ire (since she already told her pops that she had Arya in custody). Also fan base is broken on whether Littlefinger recognized Ayra or not or thought the encounter made no sense. I can't issue good guy points there.

Does he protect Sansa?

Later on it's revealed with obsessive pedo vibes. He may be simping her (Sansa sees that he's :aicmon: when she won't let him french her) and he seems to be substituting her for Cat. Maybe he's doing all that to make her fall in love with him? He has some grand scheme ready for her too. There are theories that Sansa may fukk up Littlefinger's game if Brynden Tully makes it to the Vale. And I still can't see how he's a good guy/hero at this point.

He provides for the girls in his brothel? He takes care of his spies

Yep, so he's a benevolent boss. If he was the malicious type of boss, the girls or spies could make his business sloppy. What does that have to do with him being a hero or good guy?
 

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I can't really answer that one 100% since that encounter never happened in the books and I sort of don't count it as canon. If I have to poke at why he didn't turn Arya in I'd say he had bigger fish to fry at the moment (Tyrell/Lannister alliance and maybe he thought he could use that information later) and snitching to Tywin right then would have done nothing for him but maybe get a :ohhh: out of the man and Cersei's ire (since she already told her pops that she had Arya in custody). Also fan base is broken on whether Littlefinger recognized Ayra or not or thought the encounter made no sense. I can't issue good guy points there.



Later on it's revealed with obsessive pedo vibes. He may be simping her (Sansa sees that he's :aicmon: when she won't let him french her) and he seems to be substituting her for Cat. Maybe he's doing all that to make her fall in love with him? He has some grand scheme ready for her too. There are theories that Sansa may fukk up Littlefinger's game if Brynden Tully makes it to the Vale. And I still can't see how he's a good guy/hero at this point.



Yep, so he's a benevolent boss. If he was the malicious type of boss, the girls or spies could make his business sloppy. What does that have to do with him being a hero or good guy?
In those days marrying a 15 year old is normal , nothing wrong with that in those days. He is doing what's best for the throne. He is Walter White and he takes no half measures. He got rid of his Jesse ( Roz ) early she was a bad investment . His Hank is Varys and Skyler was Cat. Tuco is the fake king Joffrey . He thinks ahead nothing wrong with that. Sansa will be 18 in a few so why not have lined up for marriage down the line?
 
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