America has an incest problem

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How will the government stop a family member from molesting someone before it happens. This article is a little much
 

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America Has an Incest Problem
  • JAN 24, 2018
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People are rightly horrified by abuse scandals at Penn State and in the Catholic church. But what about children who are molested by their own family members?


Consider how the clergy abuse shook Catholics to their core, causing internal division and international disenchantment with a religion that was once the bedrock of entire nations. Consider the fallout from Sandusky's actions and Penn State's cover-up, both for students and football. Consider how distressing it is for Brits to now come to terms with the fact that the man they watched every night on TV in their living rooms was routinely raping kids just before going on air.


America Has an Incest Problem

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Low-key this is a funny read.
 
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The only black communities that have such issues are tri racial isolates like ramapo, melungeons, lumbee, and other broke high yella hill folk but that may be :mjpls: lies.
Further investigation is required.
I've heard similar things about black scotians here and it turned out to be cac families.
 

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The only black communities that have such issues are tri racial isolates like ramapo, melungeons, lumbee, and other broke high yella hill folk but that may be :mjpls: lies.
Further investigation is required.
I've heard similar things about black scotians here and it turned out to be cac families.
Idk breh it doesnt happen to us much as men but ive known a couple of black females molested by uncles and cousins, shyt is sad.
 

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:comeon:WHY ARE YOU POSTING ARTICLES FROM 2013
AND PUTTING 2018 IN THE OP?

shyt WAS OBVIOUS ONCE THEY MENTIONED OBAMAS
2ND TERM INAUGURAL SPEECH.
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What I don't get is people's reactions to victims telling people about the shyt that happened to them.

Like we legit can't even have a conversation about sexual abuse without getting defensive about it.

I'm a woman and I will be the first to be disgusted by females who get away with sexual abuse of children just for being women.

But men get :hubie::demonic::camby:when shyt like this even hits the surface.
Like we know chicks lie.

But that's not what we talkin about. We talking about ACTUAL victims of sexual abuse. Unless you are one, you should not feel uncomfortable taking a firm stand and saying yeah there are some dudes (AND FEMALES) who need to be extirpated in our community.

This shyt hides in the silence. Ain't nobody made a correlation between men and women being fukked in the head when they get into relationships and the sheer number of sexual abuse cases yet?!

:mindblown:
This is just one more element of dysfunction that happens when blks are unjustly blamed for everything: we falter when it comes time for TRUE accountability b/c we been fukked over and castigated so much.

So we got legit predators on protected status gettin racial asylum in our community just b/c if I tell a blk woman that she's a shytty mom or a blk man that he's a pedophile they can activate the Race Escape card and juke move out of accountability.
"YOU MUST HATE BLK SINGLE MOMS! DONT WE GO THROUGH ENUFF?!"
:picard:
"WHY YOU TRYIN TO BASH ANOTHER DOWNTRODDEN BLK MAN?!"
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Me::comeon::camby:
I'm not willing to continue risking the innocence of our fukking children and trying to hypersexualize them to justify creepy ass motherfukkers and bytches in our community. Yes Rapist Kelly and rachet teachers---this means you.:stopitslime:

And no...the fact that whites are known for doing it doesn't excuse the shyt in our community b/c we are better than them.
 

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ok so what's the solution to this though? other than vigilance and people not remaining silent? :francis:


institutional molestation problems are far worse because they are protected and normalized by institutional power structures.


this just sounds like something that needs to be watched out for on a personal level. meanwhile institutions like MSU/catholic church/penn state should have been dismantled for their bullshyt.
 

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ok so what's the solution to this though? other than vigilance and people not remaining silent? :francis:


institutional molestation problems are far worse because they are protected and normalized by institutional power structures.


this just sounds like something that needs to be watched out for on a personal level. meanwhile institutions like MSU/catholic church/penn state should have been dismantled for their bullshyt.
Geez kudos for even being willing to address it. I think they go hand in hand. Institutional silence provides justification for abuse that happens at a micro level. We take our cues from the rich and powerful b/c people want to be like them in many cases.

I think confronting the issue and like you said breaking silence is helpful.
I truly believe discourse can solve anything. In our household we talked about everything and I mean everything. My dad told me that there used to be some pretty messed up ideas some elders used to have. Like this idea of "checking young women for virginity". Like that's a cultural thing and it's molestation. Centuries ago that shyt used to be standard practice and a lot of foolishness can get passed down.
He and my mom discussed it b/c they wanted us to know that random hymen checks ain't kosher.:sitdown: And wanted us to be vigilant when around extended family members and other adults.
There's a lot of shyt I be takin for granted and I used to assume everybody was having these types of conversations but I realize that ain't the case.

Discourse is powerful b/c words have the power to create culture. Divorcing sex and the body from shame helps to create an atmosphere where people are unafraid to address abuse and speak out even proactively. That culture hits institutional abuses b/c all of a sudden they are dealing with a populace who is unafraid to address the shyt head on and willing to nip it in the bud b/c it is publically and seriously denigrated.

What if we took our children being abused as seriously as not getting paid? Think about that for a second, we cower in the face of powerful institutions when it comes to revealing shyt like sexual abuse, but we have NO problem fukking them up or railing against them when it comes to not getting our pay.

Why the fukk do we clam up when it comes to certain abuses, but get brass balls when it comes to others? On the lowest of keys we are more indifferent about sexual abuse b/c we are a.) desensitized to it b/c it's assumed that it's inevitable and b.) b/c there are some who are predators and secretly wish to emulate the lifestyles of the powerful people who get away with it.

But fukk all that. Talk about it. Allow others to talk about it. Talk about people whose lives have been screwed up b/c of false accusations too. Discuss women getting a pass for gender assumptions. Talk about the affects it has on the quality of relationships in today's society. Talk about how fatherless homes and selfish single mothers create a society that makes it easier for predators to prey. Talk about how pimp and hoe culture causes some blk men to turn a blind eye to the hypersexualization of young blk girls or how they get sexually exploited in the hood just like women in 3rd world countries do by white molestors. Talk about how blk women hide behind the cult of the blk mother to avoid being held accountable for their roles in sexual abuse of children. Also discuss the erroneous belief that sexual predation is necessarily a masculine trait or should be automatically associated with men even though, it's really just about power and I 100% believe if women were in more power positions there would be more cases of female perpetuated sexual abuse than is reported today. Also let men discuss sexual abuse without questioning their manhood or masculinity. Talk about how white perverts want blk men in jail not JUST as a source of community instability but to play out their own sexual perversions and how they encourage rape in our prison system. ALL of that should be discussed with welcome and open arms.

We hold the power of life and death in our tongue. And we got a million words to say about everything else but when it comes time to talk about shyt that matters, we silent.

That culture of cowardice is a mothafukker.
 

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:rudy: he's talking about the stories that hog the headlines; the #metoo movement is quietly fumbling and crumbling

yet this has been going on forever and nobody talks about it.
Im sure if people came forward with allegations of incest by powerful figures there would be media attention on it.

You nikkas are weird with this deflection shyt. If it's not WS it's feminists.
 

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Im sure if people came forward with allegations of incest by powerful figures there would be media attention on it.

You nikkas are weird with this deflection shyt. If it's not WS it's feminists.
I think I get why. It's because we operate under a very dangerous bias that the potential for sexual abuse is a necessary part masculinity.

There is a sad irony here that in societal attempts to shame men out of having a healthy sex drive and sexual needs, we also lay the groundwork for legitimate perverts to hide in male backlash against that unfair bias against men.

That's why people need to be honest about this issue. That's also why gender assumptions are shytty b/c stereotypes don't allow for realities. In reality this doesn't have anything to do with inherent male nature being more likely to fukk a chick up.

Men have strong sex drives but they aren't as devious as people think. And women can be...I won't even go there.
But a lot of men hate discussing it and deflect b/c they feel like it's just another indictment of their masculinity. And in some cases it is by legit victims who now fear all men AND by faux "victims" who just want attention. But the former is speaking from a place of fear and pain and the latter is just trifling. And both are wrong. Sexual abuse is more about power than legit lack of control. Men are in power so there are more opportunities for them to take advantage.

However, consider this, there is one area where women ARE in control and that is motherhood. And we have more and more people coming forward about females molesting them or taking advantage of them. Does that not indicate that this is less of a gender issue and more of a power problem?
But as long as we continue demonizing men by indiscriminately linking male sexuality with sexual abuse, we will continue to have men be reluctant to even broach the topic, much less discuss solutions.

And the solutions can't be solely around low-key shaming men out of their sexuality either.
 
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