America Is Sliding Toward Illiteracy

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That Charlie Kirk situation was the cherry on top of how fukked this country is....the demolition of the white house is just Trump styling on his haters...fukk it let's burn the country down and start over :manny:
 

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Dogg, so much is gonna change in a generation and people won't even have the knowledge, history, or wherewithal to know that there was something better in place at one time.

I don't know what kind of future kids will have in this country, but it will involve the commodification of human beings. The real kicker is human life will greatly be devalued with AI coming into position. Even if the MAGA system falls a part, it will take decades to get back to this point of progress. And this point of progress is the shyt.
Soon as school became public in my Kenya the education standards went down. When I was growing up people had to pay for every grade of school. That monetary investment from largely poor families made sure they paid attention to their children's education and became invested. Soon as grade school became public the standards started to decline.

Illiteracy in Africa post colonialism was driven by lack of access and resources so the few that got to go to school in that era appreciated and treasured the experience even. Soon as grade school education became free in Kenya people started to fall off and not care bout education. Why is this even relevant?

I know this website loves to say brehs across the world can't relate to each other but you can see the parallels in our stories. From African American students being elite top tier performers in a time when education was denied and obstructed. What changed is the culture and that is also happening Africa and that also happens with Black immigrants after the first generation. So when we talk about education not being valued or a culture being behind lack of education it's not directed at ADOS. Black children globally have the same issue right now. Education isn't cool the more accessible it is. We all watch clips of decades prior of some very your articulate and militant minds that shaped our futures and a lot of them were far younger than the average coli poster. Compare them to people their age today. That's all the proof you need. The mentality, the maturity and the discipline, the intelligence it's all lacking.
 

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This sounds like a call for struggle bonding for old heads. We wasted so much time doing this.


I genuinely think its an unnecessary skill set That adds undue burden to children who already have to learn the alphabet and standard Latin script.


I'd be totally with you if you said teach them how to type tho, since it can counteract the undue burden of the new system, with tangible career benefits.

Fine Motor skills for one, but much like people remember more from reading paper books versus screens, the experience of cursive reinforces reading. It would be even better if cats was learning Japanese or Chinese on the dexterity tip.


"Old school" school was much more in touch with how children actually learn than a lot of the "new math", "flipped classrooms", "bring your own technology", "whole language" BS that they fail to teach kids with now.

And that's not even challenging the Prussian/Factory concept. If we actually made public schools like the highest quality private schools, that teach leadership as opposed to obedience.... :wow:

Regular School probably peaked prior to widespread television adoption, but let's not time travel too much.

*Rant mode off*
 

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There's also an issue with certain administrators deciding that learning phonics was problematic or harmed black/POC students. Schools in California and many other states leaned on whole word reading, which basically means you have kids guess words until they memorize them. So for instance you "read" a book about a character kicking a ball. And the teacher points to the illustration of the ball, then the word "ball" and the kid guesses. Needless to say this is a terrible learning process lol.

We need parents reading to kids, and teachers emphasizing phonics. My parents made me read a lot of books to them too, and they would listen out if I was skipping words or guessing. For instance my mom had me read Newbery Award books, which are children's books that win an award for best books for children. And they have some diverse books including novels with predominantly black characters like MC Higgins The Great. When I have kids I'm definitely going to do the same thing. If you become a great reader it makes school way easier.
I had almost the same experience with my mom. I hated having to read to her, didn't see the point when I could do it in my head, faster. But then I started noticing the other kids would trip over their words around the 5th grade, when we had to read aloud. I was getting school reading comprehension awards and school extra credit for doing the bare minimum or reading more than 2 books during summers. It got worse right before high school.

And its painfully obvious at 36, in the corporate world, who doesn't read. People need you to explain basic shyt because they don't want to take 10 minutes to read something. I've never been the smartest person in any room, but I can bs intelligence because I actually read the material beforehand. 😃 hell if I retain that shyt after a week though.

Everyone should be reading something. Long form reading. Especially something by people who are smarter than you. Most don't read, like they don't exercise, so you'll be more mentally fit than the vast majority of people, by default. Even thosw smut readers, from that female gooner thread, are more mentally competent than most people, because they're regular readers.

Us degenerates shouldn't be the brightest in our society.
 
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This sounds like a call for struggle bonding for old heads. We wasted so much time doing this.


I genuinely think its an unnecessary skill set That adds undue burden to children who already have to learn the alphabet and standard Latin script.


I'd be totally with you if you said teach them how to type tho, since it can counteract the undue burden of the new system, with tangible career benefits.
Cursive helped me learn to write. I used to be a drawer, struggled to write. Writing books didn't really help much, ironically since I couldn't "create my own words" if that makes sense... and words became a "thing" vs a bunch of letters. Cursive on the other hand felt like freehand drawing and I picked it up quickly. I started approaching print writing as drawing and I no longer hand any issues.

I lowkey think I have, had mild dyslexia.
 

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And its painfully obvious at 36, in the corporate world, who doesn't read. People need you to explain basic shyt because they don't want to take 10 minutes to read something.

The funniest thing to me about this, is that there really doesn't seem to be any correlation between making the money, moving up the ladder, and "basic" skills.

It seems that most of the people making more money, or in charge of things - are just dumber and less skilled.

In a way, terrible schools are actually preparing students for a life where this type of "achievement" doesn't matter at all.

There was a story about Harvard kids not being able to read. HARVARD.

I'm pretty sure this subreddit is on some fukk shyt, but somebody clipped this from an article.



And then you got this popping at Harvard as well


It's madness....
 

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Soon as school became public in my Kenya the education standards went down. When I was growing up people had to pay for every grade of school. That monetary investment from largely poor families made sure they paid attention to their children's education and became invested. Soon as grade school became public the standards started to decline.

Illiteracy in Africa post colonialism was driven by lack of access and resources so the few that got to go to school in that era appreciated and treasured the experience even. Soon as grade school education became free in Kenya people started to fall off and not care bout education. Why is this even relevant?

I know this website loves to say brehs across the world can't relate to each other but you can see the parallels in our stories. From African American students being elite top tier performers in a time when education was denied and obstructed. What changed is the culture and that is also happening Africa and that also happens with Black immigrants after the first generation. So when we talk about education not being valued or a culture being behind lack of education it's not directed at ADOS. Black children globally have the same issue right now. Education isn't cool the more accessible it is. We all watch clips of decades prior of some very your articulate and militant minds that shaped our futures and a lot of them were far younger than the average coli poster. Compare them to people their age today. That's all the proof you need. The mentality, the maturity and the discipline, the intelligence it's all lacking.

Human beings take abundance for granted. Whether it's food, education, or materialism, over exposure of it makes people not press hard on it.
 

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There’s no mention of “black culture”, liking sports, or hip-hop in this article, which many posters like to use as a scapegoat when they disparage black children’s academic performance. :mjpls:

You have posters on here who pretend that every child except black children :mjpls: are ready for Harvard which we know is far from the truth.

The issue is low standards, an over reliance on smartphones, and moving away from reading in general.

Its ALWAYS been like this. A lot of people DO NOT READ NONFICTION and if they are reading, its mostly bullshyt that only entertains and doesnt help them for shyt. Theres a lot of arrogant, ignorant, prideful people out there who know how to get by and thats all that matters to them. They dont even want to THINK. Thinking to them is too much. They just do without thinking and it shows. They believe everything they are told by others because they dont want to take the time to be smart. Dont bother to research on their own. I see it all the time on here especially with politics and other subjects. Too much inflated egos and its all insecurity driven. Its all about how someone can embarrass or humiliate someone else on here vs actually informing people. Notice how when folks are WRONG about something, they will be quick to gaslight everybody instead of saying they were wrong.
 
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Soon as school became public in my Kenya the education standards went down. When I was growing up people had to pay for every grade of school. That monetary investment from largely poor families made sure they paid attention to their children's education and became invested. Soon as grade school became public the standards started to decline.

Illiteracy in Africa post colonialism was driven by lack of access and resources so the few that got to go to school in that era appreciated and treasured the experience even. Soon as grade school education became free in Kenya people started to fall off and not care bout education. Why is this even relevant?

I know this website loves to say brehs across the world can't relate to each other but you can see the parallels in our stories. From African American students being elite top tier performers in a time when education was denied and obstructed. What changed is the culture and that is also happening Africa and that also happens with Black immigrants after the first generation. So when we talk about education not being valued or a culture being behind lack of education it's not directed at ADOS. Black children globally have the same issue right now. Education isn't cool the more accessible it is. We all watch clips of decades prior of some very your articulate and militant minds that shaped our futures and a lot of them were far younger than the average coli poster. Compare them to people their age today. That's all the proof you need. The mentality, the maturity and the discipline, the intelligence it's all lacking.

Interesting take. I don't exactly agree, but Interesting nonetheless. Education to an extent is indoctrination. I don't necessarily mean this in a negative way, although indoctrination almost always is taken negatively.

Your worldview works in a pre-industrial society, where if you choose not to be a productive member of the state or tribe or empire, you can be a farmer, hunter-gather, nomad, whatever. But in a society where all the means of production, labor, materials, land and capital have been commodified, a large and ever growing nonproductive population is at best a situation for increasing civil disorder and unrest. At worst it means revolution.

This is largely why the US is starting to fall apart. Trump is not a cause, he's a symptom. This follows a very predictable pattern... I don't know if it's as predictable as a Ray Dalio would make it seem, but the usurping of capital and productivity to a few people always leads to the same outcome. Look no further than the French Revolution. I hate to find out who our Robespierre is.

My main contention for what's wrong with society on a macro level is that technology is evolving too fast for society to adjust. The reason why AI is a problem for "ME" is; yes it replaces jobs, so new jobs can come in, like all of recorded history. The underlying issue many don't seem to take aware from AI is, it's meant to replace not to supplement, and it replaces way faster than any human could ever reskill or innovate.

This leaves a large and shiftless population lacking in productivity and ultimately purpose. The Universe 25 phenomenon comes into play. It's actually manifesting right now as we speak. It's a recipe for complete societal decay when we don't bring the whole of society along with societal and technological advances vis-a-vis compulsory education. I fear if we don't, the oligarchs who now have control will find more draconian ways to deal with an unproductive population.

So when you say leave education to the ones who value it, what do you do with the ones who don't? You have to provide a baseline for the people socially, medically, affordable housing, but also need to allow for autonomy, self agency, and some room for improvisation and innovation at a proletariat level.
 

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I'm not a conspiracy guy but I'm legit wondering whether there is some anti-black government plot to elevate extremist activists in academia who harm black students like this. When you're telling people "phonics is racist" or "math is racist" you're effectively dooming black students with unproven learning techniques that put us further behind. Now white kids are failing too and suddenly more administrators are pushing back on this shyt. But the pushback should have started long ago.
 
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