American Drone Strike Policy Discussion

[Type Username Here]

This dude @Type Username Here has some reading comprehension problems.

And you're the poster child for cognitive dissonance.

 

[daze23]

...but then don't generalize all liberals.

but then he'd have nothing to post about

 

[714562]

Read OP's second post in this thread again.
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So you're saying it's impossible for a man who has no preconceived notions of God to hear the story of Job and come to the same conclusion as the OPs 2nd post, simply through critical interpretation?

That such an opinion must be, by definition eisegetical, as opposed to exegetical? Why?

Quite the contrary, any other conclusion other than OP's 2nd post would be eisegetical, seeing as how you would need to hear that story with the presupposition that god is good and that faith in him is a reward unto itself.

The idea that you will be rewarded for your faith in heaven after you die is not something that can ever be proven in the physical world through any form of sensory observation that we as people possess. That's not something you can ever know through ANY critical process. That's something you bring to the table on your own through faith, which is essentially presupposition.

So yes, intilectual recipricol's interpretation of probably far more critical, and therefore more exegetical, than what you see in that story. :cena:

 

[FRIED MASON]

We have some trully embarrassing media in this country.

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

this c00n is

So im a c00n now because i'm calling out liberal hypocrisy. GTFOH..

I love how everyone is claiming i shouldn't group all liberals in the same boat based on the words of some it its leaders like this dumbfukk Crystal Ball, meanwhile liberals love to generalize republicans in the EXACT same fashion based on some inappropriate words by a Glenn Beck or a Shawn Hannity.

fukking disgusting...

 

[Robbie3000]

So im a c00n now because i'm calling out liberal hypocrisy. GTFOH..

I love how everyone is claiming i shouldn't group all liberals in the same boat based on the words of some it its leaders like this dumbfukk Crystal Ball, meanwhile liberals love to generalize republicans in the EXACT same fashion based on some inappropriate words by a Glenn Beck or a Shawn Hannity.

fukking disgusting...

This nikka is heated today.

What's wrong breh? bad day at work?

 

[NoMayo15]

lol @ Krystal Ball being the leader of liberals.

 

[stopfakinjax]

New podcast on the (twisted) morality on drone attacks:

Episode 47 - Death From Above: The (Twisted) Morality of Drone Strikes - Smells Like Human Spirit Podcast

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

So you're saying it's impossible for a man who has no preconceived notions of God to hear the story of Job and come to the same conclusion as the OPs 2nd post, simply through critical interpretation?

No, I said eisegesis is not valid for the purpose of interpretation of ancient texts. You can't 'critically interpret' them by totally ignoring the language, context and culture in which they were used.​

 

[714562]

No, I said eisegesis is not valid for the purpose of interpretation of ancient texts. You can't 'critically interpret' them by ignoring the language, context and culture in which they were used.​

Yes, and I said that what OPs was doing wasn't necessarily eisegesis for the reasons stated above. So what exactly are you saying? That anybody who doesn't have a command of Ancient Hebrew and Biblical Aramaic is not allowed to critically interpret the bible? Why couldn't a man without presuppositions who, let's say, has a command of ancient Hebrew and understands the historical context, come to a negative conclusion about the story of Job? Make a clear statement of your argument.

There's nothing in my post that suggests an objective man who draws OP's conclusions can only do so by "ignoring" the culture. The bible is not merely a historical document -- it directs people's actions in the present day. The context and culture in which the stories were used merely strengthens the idea that the stories themselves are extremely outdated. The context of biblical times assists us in understanding why the stories made sense THEN, not why they should guide our lives NOW.

 

[No1]

but then he'd have nothing to post about

What's your avatar an image of, I've been trying to figure that out for like 5 minutes, I can't read what's under the panther. Yeah, I'm that bored.

 

[daze23]

What's your avatar an image of, I've been trying to figure that out for like 5 minutes, I can't read what's under the panther. Yeah, I'm that bored.

it's "satan" spelled backwards

Spoiler

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[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

**DELETE**

This won't make any sense in this thread.​

 

[ExodusNirvana]

So im a c00n now because i'm calling out liberal hypocrisy. GTFOH..

I love how everyone is claiming i shouldn't group all liberals in the same boat based on the words of some it its leaders like this dumbfukk Crystal Ball, meanwhile liberals love to generalize republicans in the EXACT same fashion based on some inappropriate words by a Glenn Beck or a Shawn Hannity.

fukking disgusting...

That's not really a fair comparison. If I recall (and you're welcome to dispute this with the actual numbers cause I don't know) FoxNews was setting records for ratings when Beck was on there, as was FoxNews. Its not far fetched to believe that the average conservative in America agrees with them since "liberals" only watch FoxNews for comedic purposes.

 

[OsO]

We are winding down Afghanistan and I don't think many people would say that being there is unethical. The guy just put in charge in Afghanistan is there solely to bring us out.

Yemen and Libya, I can agree with. But I asked because the Somali government wants the US' help and I think that makes it interesting.

i dont think being in afghanistan was moral in the first place. i dont feel they're a threat to us, especially not to a degree to justify war. we are more likely to be killed by the police or by a local mlitiaman with an assault rifle than we are by afghan terrorists.

other countries have far more to fear from the US than the US has to fear from other countries. let's not forget WE are the country who invades people, who kill and murder people, who overthrow governments, who rob and exploit people, who deceive and manipulate people, we do that. so we have to stop acting innocent like we are global enforcers for peace when our imperialistic conquests are the driving force behind most of our wars. we beef with everybody because it's all a game of global politics and those in the "business" of war eat like fat rats. how many years since 1945 has the united states NOT been in a war... i bet it's under 10. thats tyranny in action.

we must begin in the paradigm that the majority of US actions are strategic moves to increase their power in the world at the expense of people's rights, resources, and dignity. and killing people, and sending people to fight and die in imperialistic wars is ALWAYS wrong, period.