Americans are Getting Degrees in Germany....For Free

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Wouldn't it make sense for someone to have the balls to start a non profit college funded by government grants and private donations. Rich people give billions to charity each year. That's enough to fund a lot of schools. I mean its not that hard.

And the only reason why schools charge so much for tuition is because the government gives out student loans no questions asked. A kid doesn't have established credit but will be given what essentially amounts to a home loan. :mindblown: A back asswards way of thinking if you ask me.

This has very little to do with why schools charge so much for college in the US.
 

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If I'm not mistaken a Bachelor's degree is practically free in most European countries but Master's and PhD degrees are expensive.

It's a good idea for a Bachelor's but or higher degrees there's almost no difference.
 

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2nd time l have seen this, can you explain that?

Most countries with free universities admit students based on grades and/or exams. It is common to admit students directly to a major instead of the university as a whole like in the US. The more in demand the major is, the higher your qualifications need to be. Occasionally an interview may be required for some majors but things like personal essays and recommendations are practically unheard of.

In Germany students are tracked into different schools at age 10. The main types of schools are Hauptschule for low performers, Realschule which is like American high school, and Gymnasium which is college prep. After Gymnasium students go on to complete the Abitur. The Abitur guarantees admission to university and only a third of all German students receive one. Students from the Hauptschule and Realschule can study for an Abitur but it is very rare.

This video details how university is for top students: (In Germany 4 is a low grade and 1 is high).

 

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Because in general Europeans believe education is a right (not a product) and thus that the government has a duty towards its citizens to make education as cheap as possible. Now colleges are hardly ever totally "free", but are extremely cheap (will likely always be anywhere from 100e to like 500e per academic year in France if I remember correctly) and scholarships are widely available for people whose parents have lower incomes. State subsidies from the state to universities allow that.

You also have elite universities, "Hautes Ecoles" and what not that are far more expensive. But scholarships exist for those too. In general I woudl say that scholarships are not linked to the fact that you are a good student or not (obviously, it doesn't hurt your case) because the whole point of university on continental Europe is to give a chance to everyone (obviously you need to at least finish HS first).

So saying "The reason European countries can offer free universities is that only the top students can attend" is wrong. I spent 4 years in university in France and I know damn well it's not only "top students" :dead:

Thanks for the correction.

For those who don't know, France guarantees university admission to those who passed the baccalauréat exam. There have been complaints that the exam has gotten too easy.

In 1960 11% of French 18 year-olds passed the baccalauréat. In 1982 it was 28%. Recently 64 percent of French students sat for the exam and the pass rate was around 90%. So about 57% of students are leaving secondary school with a baccalauréat.

In France you must pass 'le bac' . . . or leave the elite
A guide to French education | Education | Schools | Expatica France
Get Bac: France's High School Exam Losing Prestige And Value
 

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I wouldn't mind doing my bachelors for econ in germany.:patrice:
 

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Is this still a thing? Considering finishing my associates degree and perhaps transfer to a Germany university.


........or join the air force
 

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North Jersey but I miss Cali :sadcam:
Germany has 82 million people
USA has 328 million people

The average salary for a German professor is $92,000

The average salary for a US professor is $102,000




Military Spending in 2018

Germany $49.5 billion
USA $648.8 billion


I'm guessing if you cut military spending in half, public university tuition would be dirt cheap.
 
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