Amnesty Intern: Apple and Microsoft Using Batteries Made With Cobalt Mined By 7-Year-Old Children

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This is common knowledge bruh

This isn't no secret

This is new to me... And I am appalled...

We really have to question how our products are made and where it is sourced before we consume them...

Being "ignorant is bliss" consumers has fukked up our health and physical well being... And it fukks up the health and the well being of many of our Diaspora brothers and sisters

We need to question these corporations and demand change with our dollars...

We need to wake up and be conscious consumers
 
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This is new to me... And I am appalled...

We really have to question how our products are made and where it is sourced before we consume them...

Being "ignorant is bliss" consumers has fukked up our health and physical well being... And it fukks up the health and the well being of many of our Diaspora brothers and sisters

We need to question these corporations and demand change with our dollars...

We need to wake up and be conscious consumers
Thank you brother.
 

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Here is the rub though.

Westerners love to be outraged about young people having a job and making money for their families and applying our labor ethics about child labor on these countries. However these people aren't being kidnapped and forced to work. More times than not they are doing it because it provides an opportunity for them to make money so their families can eat. It's not ideal but it's better than the alternative which is starving.

In India for example, I believe some western human rights workers were upset about young girls working in the textile factories. The Indian government became persuaded by the complaints and made changes to the law to prevent this. However these girls were then unemployed but still needed to eat so the unintended consequence was that unfortunately these girls started turning to even more dangerous illegal work like prosttitution.

These individuals are also sometimes helping pay for other members of their family to attend school and hopefully within a generation those people can provide better for their family.
 

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So who's going to get rid of their phone and laptop first?

:usure:

People wanna protest here but no one wants to deal with the inconvenience.

#fakeOutrage

There should be an alternative to those products that kids who are dying make. :ld:

By all means, there are alternative measures to make them, and getting rid of the Internet would make other corporations have so much power and distort images in the media, like the days of old.
 
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Here is the rub though.

Westerners love to be outraged about young people having a job and making money for their families and applying our labor ethics about child labor on these countries. However these people aren't being kidnapped and forced to work. More times than not they are doing it because it provides an opportunity for them to make money so their families can eat. It's not ideal but it's better than the alternative which is starving.

In India for example, I believe some western human rights workers were upset about young girls working in the textile factories. The Indian government became persuaded by the complaints and made changes to the law to prevent this. However these girls were then unemployed but still needed to eat so the unintended consequence was that unfortunately these girls started turning to even more dangerous illegal work like prosttitution.

These individuals are also sometimes helping pay for other members of their family to attend school and hopefully within a generation those people can provide better for their family.
:stopitslime::martin: These kids have no options in War torn DRC. While these kids are placed in positions to try to help their families, they are exploited and abused. They are told if they work, they will get a sum to have a enough money to feed their family for a week but get barely a day's worth. Coming home empty handed is seen as a dishoner to the family. Keep acting like these children are getting paid and it benefits society as a whole.
 

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:stopitslime::martin: These kids have no options in War torn DRC. While these kids are placed in positions to try to help their families, they are exploited and abused. They are told if they work, they will get a sum to have a enough money to feed their family for a week but get barely a day's worth. Coming home empty handed is seen as a dishoner to the family. Keep acting like these children are getting paid and it benefits society as a whole.
Yes, the options are very little and so someone is willing to pay them, not out of the goodness of their heart obviously, and now they can go home and their families can eat a little bit better and live a bit better than they could have before. I'm not saying this is some ideal fantasy land for them but at the same time, westerners have a habit of imposing their own way of life on others without any thoughts to the why the situation is like that in the first place and what the alternative may be.

Like I stated, in India, there were negative consequences that were much worse than working in a factory at a young age because of westerners butting in and basically taking away one of the minimal employment opportunities those girls had. I'm sure you would agree being a prostitute where you exposed to disease and possibility of being imprisoned and even killed by johns is a little bit worse than working in a factory right?

Also the article mentions "They make as little as two dollars a day" which in the US is obviously dirt but in the Congo I imagine it might be a bit more money. What is the cost of bread in the congo for example?
 
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Is it in these corporations best interest that DRC becomes prosperous and peoples wages go up or would it be more convenient for corporations the people of DRC are mired in conflict and poverty?
 

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Here is the rub though.

Westerners love to be outraged about young people having a job and making money for their families and applying our labor ethics about child labor on these countries. However these people aren't being kidnapped and forced to work. More times than not they are doing it because it provides an opportunity for them to make money so their families can eat. It's not ideal but it's better than the alternative which is starving.

In India for example, I believe some western human rights workers were upset about young girls working in the textile factories. The Indian government became persuaded by the complaints and made changes to the law to prevent this. However these girls were then unemployed but still needed to eat so the unintended consequence was that unfortunately these girls started turning to even more dangerous illegal work like prosttitution.

These individuals are also sometimes helping pay for other members of their family to attend school and hopefully within a generation those people can provide better for their family.

This what people don't take into account, boycott the products and these kids don't eat. If anything what we should push for is higher wages given the billions being made by these companies every year.
 

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This is new to me... And I am appalled...

We really have to question how our products are made and where it is sourced before we consume them...

Being "ignorant is bliss" consumers has fukked up our health and physical well being... And it fukks up the health and the well being of many of our Diaspora brothers and sisters

We need to question these corporations and demand change with our dollars...

We need to wake up and be conscious consumers

yep the Congo specifically is one of the most natural resource rich place on EARTH

these companies exploit these people overseas and then come home and evade taxes

they get over in so many ways it's crazy. this why i never understood people who cape for huge corporations :manny:
 
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Yes, the options are very little and so someone is willing to pay them, not out of the goodness of their heart obviously, and now they can go home and their families can eat a little bit better and live a bit better than they could have before. I'm not saying this is some ideal fantasy land for them but at the same time, westerners have a habit of imposing their own way of life on others without any thoughts to the why the situation is like that in the first place and what the alternative may be.

Like I stated, in India, there were negative consequences that were much worse than working in a factory at a young age because of westerners butting in and basically taking away one of the minimal employment opportunities those girls had. I'm sure you would agree being a prostitute where you exposed to disease and possibility of being imprisoned and even killed by johns is a little bit worse than working in a factory right?

Also the article mentions "They make as little as two dollars a day" which in the US is obviously dirt but in the Congo I imagine it might be a bit more money. What is the cost of bread in the congo for example?
$1.04 for a loaf of bread and 1.07 for a pound of rice. They wont be able to afford both.
 

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$1.04 for a loaf of bread and 1.07 for a pound of rice. They wont be able to afford both.
Pound of rice will last you at least a week if that is all you eat. That is pretty good. I saw the site you got that number from and unfortunately even at the top of that site if its the same one, they state that economic information related to the Congo is sparse so I don't know if those numbers should be taken as completely right.
 

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here's the catch.
Everyone is crying that these foreign workers aren't being paid enough, yet if they were paid more you would complain that the products are now more expensive to buy.

basically its like this, are you WILLING to pay higher prices for your products in order for those wages overseas to increase?

cuz that is the ONLY thing that is likely to happen. Boycotting won't work, and you sure as hell know these corporations ain't gonna absorb those costs.
 
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