An Interactive Chart Of Bible Contradictions

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Hollywood Co said:
Most of the significant figures of the Bible lived or had lives that were contradictory to the how the Lord wanted us to live.

Moses - Murderer
David - Commits Adultery that leads to him killer his closest friend killed because he impregnated his wife while he was fighting a war for him.
Paul - Self admitted Christian killer

The only perfect and non-contradictory figure in the Bible is Jesus who is the living Word and so when you read the Bible with clarity you understand that God is really showing us the human condition in plain view while also showing the way to salvation.
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But what about Job and Mary? :skip:
 
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Monsanto said:
People don't know how to read the bible.

It is not to be read as is, it is an allegorical text.

And actually, it serves a purpose between the separation of the language and spirituality.

Once I read the history of Alexander The Great, I understood the Bible.
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What's the connection?
 
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Chrishaune said:
I don't care what Christian tradition or history says. The bible is what I and many others go by. Praying to Mary and other dead Saints is not a part of my belief. That's satanic, that's witchcraft.
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But you do believe in Hell, correct? That came from the Romans. Jews had no belief in eternal punishment prior to Christianity. While in Rome, they became influenced by Hellenistic beliefs.

The concept of the devil also has no basis in Judaism. Christians were influenced by other religions like Zorostrianism and consolidated the snake in the garden, the Satan in the book of Job, and the Lucifer in Isaiah.

The entire basis of Christianity doesn't even line up with what was established in Judaism. Jews and Christians see original sin completely differently. Christians believe adam and eve's sin made all of humanity totally depraved and deserving of eternal punishment. None of that exists under Judaism. They were the first to sin yeah, but that didn't curse mankind to eternal punishment. Everyones responsible for their own actions. Judaism is more optimistic because people can redeem themselves through hard work, but Christianity is just completely pessimistic :picard:

And it doesn't even guarantee jesus will save you if you do accept him

God ultimately can do whatever he feels like

I'm speaking from the POV of the Bible's universe of course. To reiterate, I dont actually believe in this stuff
 
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Westbama Heartthrob said:
But you do believe in Hell, correct? That came from the Romans. Jews had no belief in eternal punishment prior to Christianity. While in Rome, they became influenced by Hellenistic beliefs.

The concept of the devil also has no basis in Judaism. Christians were influenced by other religions like Zorostrianism and consolidated the snake in the garden, the Satan in the book of Job, and the Lucifer in Isaiah.

The entire basis of Christianity doesn't even line up with what was established in Judaism. Jews and Christians see original sin completely differently. Christians believe adam and eve's sin made all of humanity totally depraved and deserving of eternal punishment. None of that exists under Judaism. They were the first to sin yeah, but that didn't curse mankind to eternal punishment. Everyones responsible for their own actions. Judaism is more optimistic because people can redeem themselves through hard work, but Christianity is just completely pessimistic :picard:

And it doesn't even guarantee jesus will save you if you do accept him

God ultimately can do whatever he feels like

I'm speaking from the POV of the Bible's universe of course. To reiterate, I dont actually believe in this stuff
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I always wondered about the bolded, like the nature/characteristic of the devil is so different in the old vs New Testament, ie look at his interactions with God/Job (asking for permission to do things) vs being some powerful demon out to destroy everything
And then Jews/Judaism really don’t believe in hell, or going to hell..
iono things are really different considering Christianity is supposed to flow directly from Judaism

good post.
 
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Devilinurear said:
What's the difference and dont say a feeling or something like that.
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Meanings is the difference. Meanings of words got lost in translation from original languages to English.

You get a better understanding of what the original writers were saying. But you also have to get to know ancient history to understand why they are writing like they are writing. The bible was written to combat ancient belief systems. From the Egyptians, to Canaanites, to Babylonians, Persians, Greeks, to Romans.
 
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Chrishaune said:
There's so much software that gives Hebrew and Greek translation, along with the original words .... Scholars have already done the work.
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That's why you have English translations because linguistic scholars understand that word to word translations directly from the Hebrew and Greek source can be inaccurate in conveying the idea behind a passage.

If I'm an actor and tell another actor to "break a leg" that doesn't literally mean either 1) to break one of your legs or 2) to break the leg of someone else. It means 'good luck'. If I'm translating that into another language, it would be foolish to translate that directly as 'break a leg', which can be literally interpreted two different ways, instead of saying 'good luck.'

Let linguistic translation scholars in 2021 do their work. To think that you have better insight over professional linguistic scholars who pour over these source texts and the source languages that are their origin to constantly update English bibles to ensure accuracy, is the height of narcissism and ego. You don't have any new revelations.
 
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That's why you have English translations because linguistic scholars understand that word to word translations directly from the Hebrew and Greek source can be inaccurate in conveying the idea behind a passage.

If I'm an actor and tell another actor to "break a leg" that doesn't literally mean either 1) to break one of your legs or 2) to break the leg of someone else. It means 'good luck'. If I'm translating that into another language, it would be foolish to translate that directly as 'break a leg', which can be literally interpreted two different ways, instead of saying 'good luck.'

Let linguistic translation scholars in 2021 do their work. To think that you have better insight over professional linguistic scholars who pour over these source texts and the source languages that are their origin to constantly update English bibles to ensure accuracy, is the height of narcissism and ego. You don't have any new revelations.
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Where did I say I was translating anything? There's scholars doing that work. I read what scholars have found to help me better understand.

You're getting ahead of yourself.

But a lot of English translations are surface level understanding. You have to go past that. Lots of scholarly books that explain meanings behind ancient words and the intent of why the writers were writing the bible like they were.
 
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