Ana Kasparian (TYT) leaves the Democratic Party; UPDATE: Ana now works for PBD on rightwing view type show, It's over

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Why does it matter if you agree or not? There was a time the majority of the country thought black Slaves shouldn't have rights. Didn't make them right. Your approval or disapproval of their existence and them being worthy of having rights or not are two separate things.

I don't view things the same way they do but I acknowledge that we have different views and my opinions of them don't invalidate them or their opinions.

Like I said, I don't care if they want to wear a dress. The whole issue of transgenderism is they want society to participate in their cosplay. The moment you get to "My name is Susan now, you must call me Susan or she/her even though it's obvious I'm a man in a dress and you must let me participate anywhere in society that used to be restricted to women" is where I draw the line.

And that is the only line that legally matters as far as I care

The whole problem with this movement is they pitched it as "let trannies live" when really what they're pushing for is legal acceptance of men in dresses as women.
 

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the difference between male athletes is less than the difference between male and female athletes

So your telling me you dont care about some men having genetic advantages over other men? Being born with higher natural testosterone isn't an issue to you ?
 

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We should be questioning whether or not “being trans” is legitimate in the first place. Otherwise you end up in this area where you’re defending irrationality just to avoid having to tell people “no” for something we know isn’t a real disorder.

Really, the problem is the LGB’s who let the T’s latch on and steal their legitimate access to legal representation, documentation, and healthcare etc…to a niche hobbyist community of trans activists pushing harmful medical interventions and policing speech to undermine biology.
Nah, people can do whatever they want. I don’t care how someone dresses or who they have consenting relationships with.

If being trans makes someone happy then go for it. :mjgrin:
 

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We should be questioning whether or not “being trans” is legitimate in the first place. Otherwise you end up in this area where you’re defending irrationality just to avoid having to tell people “no” for something we know isn’t a real disorder.

Really, the problem is the LGB’s who let the T’s latch on and steal their legitimate access to legal representation, documentation, and healthcare etc…to a niche hobbyist community of trans activists pushing harmful medical interventions and policing speech to undermine biology.
It's this simple gender roles in society and biological sex are not the same thing. One is created and defined by society and the other is created by genetics.

That is not an opinion it's pure fact. The problem is many people think gender roles and society and biological sex are the same thing. Women aren't born wearing dresses and playing with Barbies society conditions and raises them into that.

If your gender identity and physical body are misaligned what the hell do you think that is?
 

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Why should it affect me?

Tax cuts for billionaires dont bother me, but I’m not in favor of letting them to continue to rent-seek the economy.
If you don't realize how tax cuts for billionaires have a tangible impact, then maybe you shouldn't be discussing fiscal policy. Tax revenue funds our government and cutting taxes for billionaires reduces that revenue. This isn't rocket science, those tax cuts affect everybody.
If I had kids, I wouldn’t want my daughters competing against males when they’re going out for scholarships, recruitment or qualifiers for elite rounds
This is where the fact that there are less than 1% of trans people in America and even fewer playing sports. Your kids aren't going lose opportunities because 8 out of 560,000 athletes were trans. I wonder if any of them even got scholarships. But even if all 8 kids got scholarships there would be 195,992 more athletic scholarships available. Not to mention nearly 2 million academic scholarships.

Your kids are extremely unlikely to compete against a trans athlete, and if they can't get recruited or scholarships, it's not because of trans athletes.
You're literally making my point for me. Why do you think this should be a political issue if it's already been address by the commissions? We don't need laws or bans on trans athletes. Let actual experts set the rules.

So , one more time...If you think trans participation in sports should be a political issue that's deciding votes, you're weird.
 
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Like I said, I don't care if they want to wear a dress. The whole issue of transgenderism is they want society to participate in their cosplay. The moment you get to "My name is Susan now, you must call me Susan or she/her even though it's obvious I'm a man in a dress and you must let me participate anywhere in society that used to be restricted to women" is where I draw the line.

And that is the only line that legally matters as far as I care

The whole problem with this movement is they pitched it as "let trannies live" when really what they're pushing for is legal acceptance of men in dresses as women.
You should probably learn how to be in the presence of something you disagree with and be ok with it. Once you do calling someone who was born a man Susan isn't that big a deal. What they eat doesn't make you shit.

Out in the regular world you'll constant encounter things you disagree with and don't approve of. It's not that big a deal.
 

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Most trans people think progressive activists have gone too far with this sh1t because they knew it was gonna rub some people the wrong way and create a pushback and at this point they want more important victories like basic human rights which they’re losing with Trump and they’ll deal with the other less important stuff later like playing sports or what pronouns to use later on
 

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Why are you focused on proportionality?

Should there be any in the first place?
Why should there not for any reason other than that you are a bigot? Funny to see you talk about Christoper Rufo in a negative fashion (this was a few months or maybe a year back) when your viewpoints overlap so much.

The leagues have already determined males have biological and scientific advantages ranging between 3-5% performance gains over women. I showed this to you already.

So why are you defending this?

Men have biological and scientific advantages in every single sport? I must have missed the link that explicitly says this. Can you share this?
 

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If you can’t defend your ideology without lying then maybe you’re wrong
of course they're wrong. not one of these weird fakkits; @Pull Out The Dikk, @AquaLadyboy, or @Loose can defend what's happening in this picture. that's why they just deflect

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it's morally wrong, scientifically wrong, and a political loser, and yet for some reason, these idiots are too stubborn to just admit it. they're worse than MAGAs
 

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of course they're wrong. not one of these weird fakkits; @Pull Out The Dikk, @AquaLadyboy, or @Loose can defend what's happening in this picture. that's why they just deflect

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it's morally wrong, scientifically wrong, and a political loser, and yet for some reason, these idiots are too stubborn to just admit it. they're worse than MAGAs
Not Aqua lady boy :mjlol:
 
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