Analytics Nerds watching CP3 and Booker destroy Denver with the Mid-Range

[SchoolboyC]

The problem with that logic is it assumes that the three or the layup is always freely available. Sometimes it not. Sometimes you might only have that mid range, so you better work on that sh*t so you have it in your tool box come 3rd and 4th quarter. It’s better to take a two if you have a clear look over a forced three or a layup in a clogged paint.

Well of course, situationally speaking an open middy is a better shot than a contested 3.

But the context is about both shots overall over a large sample size

 

[Redguard]

Low key, Mikal Bridges is a pretty good mid range shooter, also.Ayton used to be automatic from mid, but he hardly ever attempts that shyt anymore.It's incredible how the Suns are transforming him into Rudy Gobert.Throughout college & his first year in the league, the mid range J was his bread & butter.

Monty wants to keep it simple for Ayton. At least Ayton seems to be coachable and he doesn't have an ego.

 

[Ozymandeas]

Well of course, situationally speaking an open middy is a better shot than a contested 3.

But the context is about both shots overall over a large sample size

Agreed. It’s a balance. I just feel like these stat geeks get so caught up on efficiency and analyzing numbers they forget there’s a defense on the other side, they not gonna keep letting you shoot threes and get easy dunks.

 

[SchoolboyC]

Agreed. It’s a balance. I just feel like these stat geeks get so caught up on efficiency and analyzing numbers they forget there’s a defense on the other side, they not gonna keep letting you shoot threes and get easy dunks.

I mean, I don't think anyone with common sense will argue that the 3-pt shot is always better, regardless of the situation or who the player taking shot is.

 

[Diondon]

Ahhh the beautiful mid range. Magnifico!

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Analytics like when CP3 and Booker takes them. It hates when nikkas who average or suck at it takes them

This.

Dumbasses don't even know what analytics is, analytics loves the CP3 midrange shot cause he fukking makes them.

Analytics is all about players taking the shots for them that will yield the most points. For CP3 he absolutely should be nailing those midrange jumpers, he's one of the GOATs from that range.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Agreed. It’s a balance. I just feel like these stat geeks get so caught up on efficiency and analyzing numbers they forget there’s a defense on the other side, they not gonna keep letting you shoot threes and get easy dunks.

If someone is an actual stat geek, like the ppg and triple-double guys on here, then they might do that. Someone into analytics can't forget about the defense cause analytics is 100% based on in-game situations. They determine the highest % plays from each position as the player actually operates, not some theoretical shyt.

 

[cartierhoe]

CP actually was efficient from the midrange and led the league in midrange fg, so the analytics favor him shooting from the elbows and free throw line

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Low key, Mikal Bridges is a pretty good mid range shooter, also.Ayton used to be automatic from mid, but he hardly ever attempts that shyt anymore.It's incredible how the Suns are transforming him into Rudy Gobert.Throughout college & his first year in the league, the mid range J was his bread & butter.

Ayton his rookie year shot 38% from midrange. I wouldn't call that "automatic". How often do you want your 6'11" big taking a 2pt shot that he can't even hit at a 40% clip? Your team should be able to get a better shot than that. Every time Ayton shoots a midrange it's pulling him away from the hoop AND you're getting a shytty efficiency.

Compare that to CP3, who shot 53% from midrange this year. You don't mind your PG taking that shyt at all when he's hitting at that rate plus you still have your big down low to fight for the offensive board.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Same with KD and Kyrie. If you want to be a top tier scorer minus Bron you need that shot.

Bron was a decent midrange shooter in his prime. His 2012 Game 6 against Boston, 2013 Game 7 against San Antonio, and 2018 Game 3 against Toronto were won with a bunch of midrange jumpers. He shot about 43% from midrange on Miami, which is decent for a primary scorer. It's just that he limited those shots due to their inefficiency, only pulling it out when the situation demanded.

 

[wtfyomom]

nerds have ruined every sport

 

[Damnshow]

Suns shoot a lot of threes though, but CP3 midrange is very valuable in the league where so many teams forgetting they got to defend that shot also

 

[DetroitEWarren]

Bron was a decent midrange shooter in his prime. His 2012 Game 6 against Boston, 2013 Game 7 against San Antonio, and 2018 Game 3 against Toronto were won with a bunch of midrange jumpers. He shot about 43% from midrange on Miami, which is decent for a primary scorer. It's just that he limited those shots due to their inefficiency, only pulling it out when the situation demanded.

LeBron has always been a solid mid range shooter (solid shooter overall) he just can't create space like his peers so the jumpers he takes and makes are usually really tough shots, they are always contested well because he lacks the skill to create space.

He makes a lot of tough ass jumpers for sure though

 

[Torrential]

It's because the players are told not to shoot it. If the players start shooting mid-range jumpers and they miss, the coach will more likely bench them.

This is funny because a lot of these coaches just let their teams go 2-20 from the 3pt range.

Facts. The midrange shot is not a valued shot according to analytics. Threes and layups are favorable due to all time “percentages” . They believe to maximize the percentages layups and threes are the preferred offensive approach. Its disgusting , boring and unimaginative. And as we have seen these playoffs. The midrange was used by the team who won.

 

[feelosofer]

Analytics doesn't hate the mid range shot, it hates contested midranges.

The other thing is, Pheonix is hitting from 3 at a clip of about 45% for the series. So....