And for those who don't know, here are the creators of reggaetón:

[GrindtooFilthy]

crazy shyt, i had bought el general album by mistake lol...didnt know it was spanish.
but dude who produced shaggy...produced el general and is the creator of reggaton
he is cashing checks this day from them sampling his stuff...i can remember his name right now

Think i Know who, he from nyc right?

 

[Brehvity3135]

@IllmaticDelta

Insane take but do you

 

[Wild self]

I've been telling my girl, Dominicans are making better dancehall then Jamaicans now. Idk how Jamaican artist haven't jumped on dembow beats and brought it to another level.

Im thinking because that gunman sound is really big

Yard Man nah chat wi fukkery man dem!

They jacked it from Jamaican people and not pay homage.

 

[Don Snow]

This is more weirdo obsession with Latinos in general. I mean until actual black Panamanians state they are upset over the direction of Dembow and Reggaeton, you have non Hispanic black men upset for them.

I mean is Sech an actual black Panamanian, out here calling for the boycott of Bad Bunny or is making music with him?

So what is this really about? Why are non Hispanic black men who don’t even speak Spanish upset that bad bunny, J Balvin, El Alfa, Angel Dior are making this music?

Because they can’t see themselves in a popular art form. Nothing more or less. So the shoehorning of social media America racial politics into a space that isn’t calling for or relevant is that attempt. And it looks exactly like what it is, bizarre and pathetic

Starting a dialogue is pathetic huh

 

[The Fade]

Starting a dialogue is pathetic huh

dude fell into white latina p*ssy and now hes Dominican and just talks down on Black Americans. Telling us we shouldnt expect them to understand us but we should go out of the way to understand them because "Latinidad"

 

[Michael's Black Son]

El General, a black Panamanian artist, is one of the pioneers of reggaeton

Reggaeton is heavily inspired by reggae anyway HENCE THE NAME

Most popular Latino music, including salsa, bachata, cumbia and punta are also inspired by black and African music

I would say General back then had his own lane and it was what we called Spanish Reggaeton. He had reggae/dancehall riddims and he simply sang in Spanish and that was it. And he’s a breh.

He didn’t sing/rap fast like these current reggaeton artists and he wasn’t riding the same beat over and over. Definitely had a Super Cat style vibe and he was respectful of the culture.

But it wasn’t like reggaeton immediately popped after him. You had shyt like Playero and Projecto Uno that were basically his sons and took it in their own direction in the mid 90s. Still, they put respeck on reggae/dancehall artists because they literally were rapping fast in Spanish over well known dancehall riddims. At no point back then did they ever claim their shyt as reggaeton.

Fast forward to now and these bozos doing reggaeton done “I no black, I Spanish papi’d” reggae/dancehall and that’s the shyt I can’t rock with. And they done run the damn DemBow riddim into the core of the earth at this point

And real talk, those Playero tapes were fire. You could party to these shyts

 

[Brehvity3135]

Starting a dialogue is pathetic huh

A dialogue to do what? That genre is theirs and that’s okay. Not everything has to be about us for you to enjoy it.

Until I see actual black Panamanians complain it has nothing to do with us. And can for the love of god can y’all stop posting the same two el general tracks

You got guys like Eddy Lover, Sech, Kafu Banton, but you would know if this is you actually liked/listened to the music. That’s my point. Y’all not even listening or following the music to begin with. Just upset you see Bad Bunny doing his thing

 

[Wild self]

@BujuBoombastic what you think about this fukkery? Of Hispanic people jacking Jamaican music?

 

[Brehvity3135]

dude fell into white latina p*ssy and now hes Dominican and just talks down on Black Americans. Telling us we shouldnt expect them to understand us but we should go out of the way to understand them because "Latinidad"

I want you to do better as this is Cac behavior and unbecoming of a black man to be jealous. And you can keep the ad-hominem attacks. You can’t refute nary a word I’ve ever said

 

[The Fade]

I want you to do better as this is Cac behavior and unbecoming of a black man to be jealous. And you can keep the ad-hominem attacks. You can’t refute nary a word I’ve ever said

Cac behavior is the passive aggressive digs you been making at BA's for a minute now.

 

[Brehvity3135]

Cac behavior is the passive aggressive digs you been making at BA's for a minute now.

truth makes ppl uncomfortable. You can compile my posts, make a thread and air out your grievances. Till then suck ya mudda

 

[Still Benefited]

It has "Reggae" in the name? Am I missing something? Thought it was obviously the music was reggae spinoff

 

[IllmaticDelta]

@IllmaticDelta

Insane take but do you

Insane? Those are pure facts; no lies told on my behalf There was a reason why the Spanish dancehall stayed local but Reggaeton actually crossed over

 

[Brehvity3135]

Insane? Those are pure facts; no lies told on my behalf There was a reason why the Spanish dancehall stayed local but Reggaeton actually crossed over

Yes it’s insane. Lol you wrote a dissertation to basically insert a loose affiliation. It’s embarrassing. And again where are the black Panamanian’s upset?

What black reggaeton artists are you currently supporting more importantly black Panamanians?

All is revealed in due time.

Fast forward to now and these bozos doing reggaeton done “I no black, I Spanish papi’d” reggae/dancehall and that’s the shyt I can’t rock with.

@IllmaticDelta It’s blatantly obvious this is the source of your problem. It’s been made it’s own and you can’t see yourself in it.

Turn up at a teteo and enjoy yourself

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Yes it’s insane. Lol you wrote a dissertation to basically insert a loose affiliation.

You mean strong affiliation

It’s embarrassing. And again where are the black Panamanian’s upset?

Black Panamanians are basically Jamaicans who happen to speak spanish; and yes, I clearly remember Jamaicans being mad as sh1t years ago about Latin American Reggaeton acts jacking their steeze (I'm pretty sure you can find many threads on this board with Jamaicans complaining about it). Plus, who says Panamanians have never voiced displeasure about Reggaeton being associated with Ricans?

Reggaeton began organically as a transformation of dancehall, hip-hop, and reggae en español. As an Afro-diasporic movement, Panama, Puerto Rico, Jamaica, the Dominican Republic, and New York are all pivotal landscapes in the style’s musical evolution. Through Tu Pum Pum: The Story of Reggaeton, a new column by Eddie Cepeda, we’ll explore reggaeton’s history, sociopolitical struggles, and its impact as a global force in music and culture.


In 1904, the U.S. took over the fledgling Panama Canal project the French had recently abandoned. Over 100,000 West Indian immigrants brought the project to fruition. This mass Antillean migration changed the cultural fabric of Panama forever. Even though they were the lifeblood of the project, the workers faced rampant discrimination and systemic segregation. And while many of their children were born in the Canal Zone, raised with U.S. customs, and spoke English, they were explicitly denied U.S. citizenship, while the Panamanian government made the naturalization process onerous and rare. It wasn’t until the 1977 Torrijos-Carter Treaties saw the U.S. give the Canal Zone back to Panama that a full integration with Latin American culture took place on the isthmus. It was then, on the Diablo Rojo buses of Panama City, that a dancehall-derived sound took shape and began to spread across the country and beyond, making Panama the hotly contested birthplace of reggaeton.

“El reggaetón es panameño, y no porque yo digo, ¡sino porque es así!” revered salsero Rubén Blades once proclaimed. This surely ruffled some feathers, as many have long argued that the maze to reggaeton’s inception leads to Puerto Rico. Many Panamanians – and reggaeton experts – dispute that, contending their country is the native mother of the genre.

rest here Panamanian Artists Helped Birth Reggaeton, Then the Industry Left Them Behind

What black reggaeton artists are you currently supporting more importantly black Panamanians?

All is revealed in due time.




@IllmaticDelta It’s blatantly obvious this is the source of your problem. It’s been made it’s own and you can’t see yourself in it.

Turn up at a teteo and enjoy yourself

that sh1t has no impact on me but I do find it weird a music w/ no actual Latin American influences outside the language is being marketed as Latin Music.