Black Ball
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This nikka stay droppin a verse every now & then just to tease the fans knowing he aint neva gonna give us that real rap solo project
Andre 3000 - Solo (Reprise) *Takes shots at Drake on Frank Ocean's album*
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This is just
nikka aint gotta have corny gimmicks, dont gotta rap about doin drugs, materialistic bullshyt, etc.
Were these older cats messing with Afrika Bambaata and Melle Mel like that?
This, and nas album done >> this solo verse
care to reiterate what you mean breh?
Today's hip-hop artists catch flack for not listening to 90's hip-hop, but were 90's artists listening to Melle Mel and those who came before them? Even if they were, were they enjoying their music? You just can't connect with music that came before you like you can with music that you grew up on.
This doesn't make much sense, because the 90's was heavily tied in with the 80's.
Nas was "the new Rakim". When Rakim came back out, Mobb Deep did songs with him. Slick Rick came back out, Outkast did songs with him. RUN DMC came back out, they had Q-Tip and EPMD on their album. Jay-Z was mentored by Big Daddy Kane. The equipment RZA started making beats on was from Marley Marl. Matter of fact, Def Squad re-did "Rapper's Delight".
I could do this all day. So nah....you're wrong.
Fred.
dont know if i can agree with this statement. Two things that are evident with people within society and this just isnt solely as it related to just hip-hop but a bit of a universal "problem" o to speak. The first being that we have a tendency to accept those things that are given to us. Without digging beneath the surface. For the later, I'm going to have to disagree im a 80's (and i dont like telling my age) but as a listener of music i find i connect more with the oldies for two reasons (really one depending on how you look at it). Substance and the ability to be relatable. Its the same with those individuals you grew up in the Era of the Wu Tang Clan and are able to relate to their story and similar to those groups deem Wu-Tang esque in delivery & in message.
I'm using the example you gave.
You said was the 90's checking for the 80's. The answer is yes. And nah, in some cases the gap was bigger than 10 years. Slick Rick first appeared in 1985, his album from 1999 had Outkast, Wu-Tang, Nas, and Snoop on it. That's 14 years.
If you're a rapper there's no reason not to know Pac songs, he's one of the biggest rappers in history. There's statues of him in other countries, for fukks sake. So for an American, that raps, not to know any songs by him is
It's not as if people expect Yachty to know DAS EFX or some shyt.
Fred.
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I mean damn at least puffy could dance
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I don't think that's a fair comparison. Nas was a kid when hip hop was created, so there was nothing else for him to gravitate to but the originators. The gap between Rakim and Nas is moreso "one guy was old enough to do his thing, the other guy was young enough to be a fan/observer." Nas was a teen and would come around the studio to record when Rakim wasn't there. People in that age bracket looked up to Rakim, like a god.
To me the easiest way to understand the new generation is basically to say that we now have a lot of teens doing "hip hop" who first fell in love with the genre when 808s And Heartbreaks came out. Uzi Vert was 13 or 14 when that album came out. He was about to enter the high school phase of his life. It makes sense that he gravitates moreso to that album and the things that came afterward than say...Illmatic. In fact Illmatic came out the year he was born. Whereas Nas was a kid watching hip hop grow, it's not something that predates him.
There's nothing wrong with any of this. Things move in cycles. We're witnessing a generation that "grew up" on Lil Wayne, Gucci, Lil B, and Kanye West. That was their first exposure to hip hop, the first thing their friends liked, the first thing they saw on youtube, etc.