Andre Berto describes what fighting floyd mayweather is like

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I had actually forgotten about Vasquez, good look. He wasn't on Canelo's level though. Floyd fighting him at like 12-13 year age disadvantage is a bigger risk than sweet pea ever took.

Floyd clearly rates higher and I loved sweet pea. There's really no debatin that.
You're entitled to your opinion. I like Floyd more but I don't know if he has a win like Pea's over Chavez. Even Buddy McGirt was a top five p4per when he and Pea fought. Azumah, etc.

But I have no qualm with rating Floyd higher. I would like to see how Canelo's career turns out when it's all said and done. Could end up being a monster win for Money.
 

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You're entitled to your opinion. I like Floyd more but I don't know if he has a win like Pea's over Chavez. Even Buddy McGirt was a top five p4per when he and Pea fought. Azumah, etc.

But I have no qualm with rating Floyd higher. I would like to see how Canelo's career turns out when it's all said and done. Could end up being a monster win for Money.
Everybody's entitled to their opinion. Don't take me stating my opinion strongly with me not recognizing your prerogative to disagree.

I've always felt like Chavez was overrated. The only thing shocking to me about that Pea-Chavez fight was the draw robbery. We all knew how that was going to go before the fight. Pea's wins against Mcgirt and Nelson were great wins and the way he came back against hurtado was legendary. I think the DLH fight was maybe his most impressive performances and I actually had him winning it. The way he took it back to the old Pea at 30+ was crazy. Gave DLH a boxing lesson that night. Had the decision gone his way I might see this a little differently because that would've been a HUGE win on his career resume. May's undefeated and that win against Canelo going up in weight at 36 puts him over Pea on be all time list imo.
 

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Everybody's entitled to their opinion. Don't take me stating my opinion strongly with me not recognizing your prerogative to disagree.

I've always felt like Chavez was overrated. The only thing shocking to me about that Pea-Chavez fight was the draw robbery. We all knew how that was going to go before the fight. Pea's wins against Mcgirt and Nelson were great wins and the way he came back against hurtado was legendary. I think the DLH fight was maybe his most impressive performances and I actually had him winning it. The way he took it back to the old Pea at 30+ was crazy. Gave DLH a boxing lesson that night. Had the decision gone his way I might see this a little differently because that would've been a HUGE win on his career resume. May's undefeated and that win against Canelo going up in weight at 36 puts him over Pea on be all time list imo.
plus pea was on his coke shyt..training messing up etc.
naturally gifted..
 

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mayweather fights the battles he wants....his footwork and ring management is top tier and he can adjust on the fly

furthermore floyd isnt a brawler...which most people appear to want. which is why his fights get tagged as boring....which I concede is subjective

but what I never get is how people knock his excellence.....floyd is so good he made his opponents seem pedestrian

and its why some of these nutjobs actually entertained Rousey being a match for him....one of the darkest marks against sports commentary in my lifetime
A crime. :scust:
 

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Everybody's entitled to their opinion. Don't take me stating my opinion strongly with me not recognizing your prerogative to disagree.

I've always felt like Chavez was overrated. The only thing shocking to me about that Pea-Chavez fight was the draw robbery. We all knew how that was going to go before the fight. Pea's wins against Mcgirt and Nelson were great wins and the way he came back against hurtado was legendary. I think the DLH fight was maybe his most impressive performances and I actually had him winning it. The way he took it back to the old Pea at 30+ was crazy. Gave DLH a boxing lesson that night. Had the decision gone his way I might see this a little differently because that would've been a HUGE win on his career resume. May's undefeated and that win against Canelo going up in weight at 36 puts him over Pea on be all time list imo.

100%. Chavez didn't touch down on US soil until he was 33 fights deep. His best "wins" are Roger, Angel Hernandez, Frankie Mitchell, and Hector Camacho. Not a bad list of guys. However, we all know he "lost" to Meldrick and Pernell....and really lost to Frankie and Oscar. JCC was a bad man, but I don't think he transcends generations like a Roberto Duran or Pernell do. He was simply a great fighter for his era.
 

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100%. Chavez didn't touch down on US soil until he was 33 fights deep. His best "wins" are Roger, Angel Hernandez, Frankie Mitchell, and Hector Camacho. Not a bad list of guys. However, we all know he "lost" to Meldrick and Pernell....and really lost to Frankie and Oscar. JCC was a bad man, but I don't think he transcends generations like a Roberto Duran or Pernell do. He was simply a great fighter for his era.
Basically. I still have some animosity towards Steele for robbing Taylor especially knowing what it ended up costing him in the short and long run.
 

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You geeks are so quick to abandon the topics. It's usually the losers with the most posts too.

My posts are few across several topics.
It's a lot of losers that can't state their view and move on.

Going back and forth all day like some women

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yup

and let's not act like a younger Floyd didn't call Mosley out and mosley started making excuses about his tooth hurting and needing to go on vacation

They both knew what the time was but because Floyd is Floyd boxing media never called him out for ducking


THIS!!!

Floyd stayed callin on Mosely but dude didn't want the fight when they were younger. So when he became top dog, Floyd ignored tf out of Mosely.

It wasn't until Mosely hopped in the ring (after destroying Margacheato) did he piss Floyd off enough to take that fight.

Mosely got the best shot of all time on him too.. Floyd regrouped fast af and proceeded to give Mosely the ass kicking of a lifetime
 

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Discuss boxing in the ring.

But yeah that was cool to hear from Berto.
 

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This is the move Berto was talking about. Chino thought he was countering when he threw. Floyd on the front foot is ridic,
 
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Sweet Pea would give him a run for his money but I won't argue against Floyd
I think Sweet Pea was a better pure defensive fighter in the sense he was in the Matrix when it came to evading punches. But Floyd is the unquestioned best ever at managing distance and positioning. Floyd has a way of always putting his opponent in a position where it's uncomfortable to attack. Pernell wasn't so good at that. Or maybe just didn't give a shyt because he knew he was slipping what you were throwing. Let's remember that Pea got dropped a few times in his prime. Mostly because he was so willing to engage.

shyt I could go on but I sound like one of those old fools :russell: outside the bodega ranting about boxing.
 

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Couple things that's just simply insane about Floyd:

1) His jab, most people throw it straight, Floyd's is like a homing missile, it finds your face/body someway somehow, his ability to adjust the landing point of his jab that fast at any angle and still deliver a blow is something out of an old wives tale :wow:

2) His ability to make you miss with his feet planted :banderas: He's literally in your face but you can't catch him. And what's worse it looks like he's not making any effort. That's gotta be very frustrating, the best strategy I saw in that video was Maidana who was fighting joker style, just throwing sh*t from all angles with no rhyme or reason, and he still met his inevitable fate :wow:

3) That counter. It's almost to the point where if Floyd's opponent missed a jab, the reaction from you as a fan is automatically like :francis:, "you just f*cked up breh", except Floyd's opponents have those "you just f*cked up breh" moments like 20 times in a round :wow:

Mayweather has the best jab to the body I have ever seen.

He uses it in many ways, to keep distance, disrupt his opponent's rhythm, frustrate opponents, set up bigger shots upstairs.

Corrales kept eating those left jabs to the body. Eventually he would instinctively drop his hands, and then the left hooks to the head landed.
 
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