Andrew Luck vs. RG3: A Year Later, Who You Got?

Who would you want as your team's QB going into the Future?


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If he doesn't produce at a historic rate like he did last year I would say he fell off. it has nothing to do with just 4th quarter wins, he had the stats and the intangibles, and proved physical and mental toughness by his ability to get hit more than any QB in the league and stay on the field. That's something he's head and shoulders better than compared to RG3 at this moment.

RGIII got hurt last year on a freak play. Most of the time when guys get hurt it's on a freak play. I am not gonna argue that Luck isn't more durable however he, like every other player, is just one awkward hit in the wrong place at the wrong time from going down. Staying healthy is more so a matter of luck than toughness but there is no denying that both guys are tough.
 

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RGIII got hurt last year on a freak play. Most of the time when guys get hurt it's on a freak play. I am not gonna argue that Luck isn't more durable however he, like every other player, is just one awkward hit in the wrong place at the wrong time from going down. Staying healthy is more so a matter of luck than toughness but there is no denying that both guys are tough.

RG3 got hurt because he put himself in the line of fire all year and his body is not built to take hits like that. We gonna act like all the hits he took unnecessarily didn't weaken him for his eventual major injury? It wasnt a freak injury, he was already hobbled, and against anybodys better judgement continued to play. He's blown out his knee twice in a very short period of time, he can't continue playing the way he has and expect a long NFL career. I'm definitely rooting for him nobody wants to see a young black stars career end early, but it's on him now to prove he can change his style of play and still be successful
 

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RG3 got hurt because he put himself in the line of fire all year and his body is not built to take hits like that. We gonna act like all the hits he took unnecessarily didn't weaken him for his eventual major injury? It wasnt a freak injury, he was already hobbled, and against anybodys better judgement continued to play. He's blown out his knee twice in a very short period of time, he can't continue playing the way he has and expect a long NFL career. I'm definitely rooting for him nobody wants to see a young black stars career end early, but it's on him now to prove he can change his style of play and still be successful

It was a freak injury...he was twisted in the air and the guy from BMore hit him right in the knee. It's not like he broke down from taking hits, it was a certain hit in particular. Getting hit in the knee, is getting hit in the knee no matter how many hits you have taken prior (see Brady and Carson). He will have to demonstrate better judgement and two ACLs in 3 years is certainly noteworthy.
 

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It was a freak injury...he was twisted in the air and the guy from BMore hit him right in the knee. It's not like he broke down from taking hits, it was a certain hit in particular. Getting hit in the knee, is getting hit in the knee no matter how many hits you have taken prior (see Brady and Carson). He will have to demonstrate better judgement and two ACLs in 3 years is certainly noteworthy.

That baltimore hit didn't put him out though. The collective effect of getting hit so many times on his body and legs over time is what ultimately doomed him. You don't see how taking so much contact already on a wobbly leg over a period of time made it worst? You just can't say what happened was a freak injury, because everyone saw it coming from the begining, except shanihan of course
 

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That baltimore hit didn't put him out though. The collective effect of getting hit so many times on his body and legs over time is what ultimately doomed him. You don't see how taking so much contact already on a wobbly leg over a period of time made it worst? You just can't say what happened was a freak injury, because everyone saw it coming from the begining, except shanihan of course

He missed the next weeks game and was hobbled in a brace for the rest of the season. He doesn't have the issues he had against SEA and get knocked out of that game if it wasn't for that Baltimore hit.
 

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He missed the next weeks game and was hobbled in a brace for the rest of the season. He doesn't have the issues he had against SEA and get knocked out of that game if it wasn't for that Baltimore hit.

so with that said, in your opinion does something about his play style have to change? or can they use him the exact same way they did last season and just hope 'freak' injuries dont happen?
 

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That baltimore hit didn't put him out though. The collective effect of getting hit so many times on his body and legs over time is what ultimately doomed him. You don't see how taking so much contact already on a wobbly leg over a period of time made it worst? You just can't say what happened was a freak injury, because everyone saw it coming from the begining, except shanihan of course
:snoop: Posts like these show you who actually watches the games and who just checks out ESPN highlights. The Bmore hit IS what put him out. His ability to run, plant, & throw as a QB was never impacted from Week 1 until that Bmore game. Before the Bmore game he was coming off a 3-week sweep of division opponents including embarrassing Dallas on Thanksgiving. After the Bmore game he had on a knee-brace and did not run the same. It was a freak injury. The same way a freak injury took out Peyton Manning for a year, Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Big Ben. It happens
 

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hmmm my heart says RGIII but my brain says Luck.

I have to say 'm not sure how good RG3 will be this year coming off an ACL but we'll see
 

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:snoop: Posts like these show you who actually watches the games and who just checks out ESPN highlights. The Bmore hit IS what put him out. His ability to run, plant, & throw as a QB was never impacted from Week 1 until that Bmore game. Before the Bmore game he was coming off a 3-week sweep of division opponents including embarrassing Dallas on Thanksgiving. After the Bmore game he had on a knee-brace and did not run the same. It was a freak injury. The same way a freak injury took out Peyton Manning for a year, Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Big Ben. It happens

Here's where we differ. Peyton Manning having to have neck surgery after never missing a snap in his career is a "freak injury"

A running QB thats already blown his knee out hurt scrambling is not a "freak injury" it's what comes with the territory of being that type of quarterback
 

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Here's where we differ. Peyton Manning having to have neck surgery after never missing a snap in his career is a "freak injury"

A running QB thats already blown his knee out hurt scrambling is not a "freak injury" it's what comes with the territory of being that type of quarterback

so with that said, in your opinion does something about his play style have to change? or can they use him the exact same way they did last season and just hope 'freak' injuries dont happen?
1) hes a passing qb who can run. The stats show that as well. He prefers to pass first then run

2) It was a freak injury. However, the injury was not on the coach or the scheme. It was on him. On a broken play in the first quarter any QB can just throw the ball away no big deal. It's a different story when your team is down with less than 2 minutes to go in the 4th quarter and you desperately need that first down. He was scrambling for the first down when the play broke down like any QB would do in the 4th quarter with the game on the line. Brady would do it, Manning would do it, Rodgers does it all the time if the play breaks down and the game is on the line in the 4th. The difference between RG3 and the others is that when they scramble they accept what yardage they can get and slide or run out of bounds. RG3 was cocky and reckless but more so determined to get that 1st down. Instead of sliding he kept going for an extra yard or two and dove face first with his legs flying in the air. It's definitely a lesson I'm sure he's learned.

3) The play style doesn't need to change this season. He just needs to play smarter. Take what you can get and run out of bounds or slide. You'd be foolish not to run the read option a few plays a game, with the type of talent he has. In the first few weeks you definitely ease up on calling any designed runs. Run more alfred morris instead and some quick slants or screens until he shakes the rust off.

4) Nobody runs the read option the entire time. You just have to have the threat of it so the defense is always on their toes.
 

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RG3 was better last season. I'm betting he's better this season too. I pick Rg3.
 

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so with that said, in your opinion does something about his play style have to change? or can they use him the exact same way they did last season and just hope 'freak' injuries dont happen?

It was a freak injury...he was twisted in the air and the guy from BMore hit him right in the knee. It's not like he broke down from taking hits, it was a certain hit in particular. Getting hit in the knee, is getting hit in the knee no matter how many hits you have taken prior (see Brady and Carson). He will have to demonstrate better judgement and two ACLs in 3 years is certainly noteworthy.
 

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Here's where we differ. Peyton Manning having to have neck surgery after never missing a snap in his career is a "freak injury"

A running QB thats already blown his knee out hurt scrambling is not a "freak injury" it's what comes with the territory of being that type of quarterback

Actually that was an example of taking hits over time leading to injury. There is no particular play we can point to that caused that injury.

Running is the issue...being reckless while running is an issue. He must be smarter about taking hits. Standing in the pocket is not going to prevent him from getting hurt. Plenty of qbs get hurt in the pocket too.
 
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