Andrew Schultz FLAMES Joe Budden: "You Always Crying About Bad Deals Because You Suck At Business"

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But the point still stands. This is Joe Buddens schtick. He did this with Def Jam, with Amalgam, with Shady, with Complex, and now Spotify. It never ends well
 
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TNC said:
The one thing I sort of disagree with is that... Joe didn't say the deal he originally had with Spotify was bad, they were praising it at first. But The renegotiation deal seemed to be bad, but that's a whole different case.

The issue I see with Joe constantly is that he always wants to have control in the deal yet still wants the bag as well. That doesn't mean he can't get both but usually with more control gained, the less guaranteed money you'll get. If you want more money upfront, you usually gotta give up some level of control It appears Joe doesn't want to give up either...
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He hasn't learned from his record business dealings. Sometimes, the best contract is the one that offers you the smallest bag, but gives you the most control. Since he wants to own and do things alone, he should realize that Spotify might be doing him a favor.
 
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tremonthustler1 said:
He hasn't learned from his record business dealings. Sometimes, the best contract is the one that offers you the smallest bag, but gives you the most control. Since he wants to own and do things alone, he should realize that Spotify might be doing him a favor.
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I still don't get why he doesn't do everything he is doing but Indie. Shoot his own YouTube shows, record his podcasts without a company, etc
 
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Crumple said:
Word. He was laughing at the other guy openly diss Budden - then went on to talk about how he's been in therapy in years.

It's like he's rude/an a$$hole then talks about therapy.

That bothered me because there alot of great people with serious mental health issues.

Their podcast is spooky. Im not with it.
But hey all the best to them.

I'd much rather listen to Prodigy's audiobook on repeat. Much more genuine.
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How is that book breh?
 
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Tommy Lee Jones said:
tired of seeing you suck andrew's dikk in every thread because you met him once or twice or whatever the fukk.
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Why are you so furious? It's not about met once or twice this someone I know for near decade, same way I've known charla for the same amount of time

Yet here you are furiousssssss over people you don't even know
 
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Turbulent said:
Budden and Rogan have very different types of shows.

Rogan has 1 on 1, 3hour convos with people from different areas of life, fields, etc.

Budden has a current affairs type show with a core group and no guests (rare guests)

Not saying one is better than the other. What i will say is that say you discover the rogan show for the first time, you are probably able to watch year old episodes with guests you are curious about.

If you discover the budden podcast, you are probably not gonna watch old episodes of them talking about outdated news. You will just start from where you're at.

Either way i don't think views are worth that much UNLESS you leverage it into money. So unless joe rogan is sharing so ad money with them, i don't see how they make money off him. I guess they ran the numbers as far as future subs projections, ad money, opportunity to bring in other pods because of it, etc and the numbers probably made sense.

Budden refuses to shate ad money, refuses to share sponsor money, probably peaked as far as getting spotify new subs. How much is his high streams count worth to them? Why exactly would spotify sign him for a high amount a second time?

Now armed with analytics, he might be able to go to another dsp, show them how much he could grow their platform as far as pods, etc and then it would make sense.

I'm just saying shyt though. I have no idea what these people's contracts actually say or how much they make.
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that makes perfect sense and I agree, but it doesnt take away the fact the company wont match your numbers and growth.

If you dont think older episodes would garnish views the same way Rogans pod would (which I agree with) then why would you want the rights to the podcast :patrice: wouldnt that make it easier for the publishing to fall into Joe's lap? The money, the stakes, the players, the company isnt the focus... people keep flip flopping on those variables. The point is the company wanting it one way or another which doesn't benefit anyone, not even itself. How can you not want the old shows, but also want the old shows? :dwillhuh: But want the artist to do numbers, but dont want to show the artist the numbers :dwillhuh: Variables threw everyone off, its not about the joke numbers thrown out for pay or equality. Its about looking at the numbers you put up and getting paid based off of those numbers :manny: If you're gonna jerk someone do it one way or another not every single way possible. Like short my dough, but give me rights.... or take my rights but give me the dough I deserve. What the fukk kind of deal is hiding numbers from me and then trying to own hundreds of my pods when you do nothing? What the fukk are you really offering me at that point... that's not a business thats white people bullshyt. Spotify should fold if they think that's good business, they literally bring nothing to the music or culture. Tidal is garbage for being for the artist but not doing shyt for artists besides showing Kanye's fashion shows.


If people run back to the stay independent view, that skips the entire point of companies existing. No black person is going to own and operate a streaming service ever :manny: Is there a time where companies will be boycotted and shut down, based off of lying and embezzling the artists money? The double standard is crazy...I only type this much because I cant believe it. When 50 cent grabs 100 million from coca cola... its genius but when someone else tries to grab a fair deal and the company says "We cant treat you fairly or pay you how you should be paid" people side with the company? :mjtf: a self sustaining streaming service at that who will never fall because they get paid off of 100's of millions of streams each day on audio they've never produced one second of?
 
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