Andrew Yang says Democrats need to improve their appeal to the working class

[Drew Wonder]

I mean at some points he's right that Dems need to improve on selling leftist policies that improve the working class. But he's obviously also saying that Dems should focus less on racial issues as well like BLM and whatever to appease scared whites who might be turned off by cultural inclusion issues. It's not like he's the only with this point however, because that working class platform was the same thing that Bernie focused instead of racial issues and a lot of minorities still loved him. We'll see where the party goes because I don't have an easy answer.

True. But the white working class thought Bernie was an evil communist.

There are only two ways the Democrats can win over the white working class. Either

A) Make them less racist

B) Educate them on democratic socialism

I'm not confident either option will happen

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Yeah, they’re a lost cause. And Yang will learn the hard way when the white working class he’s trying so hard to appeal to start calling him a Chinese communist socialist

Dems make every excuse to underinvest in the south too. We’ve had so many candidates come inches from victory and it never materializes. Meanwhile we have to do it ourselves like Stacey Abrams did in doing the daily grind.

Yang has been doing this bullshyt for too long

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

The immigration issue isn't helping Democrats as well.

That's a true point as well. Especially considering in some states illegal immigrants (California) are treated better than the poor and homeless.

 

[I Really Mean It]

Are black people not among the hardest working members of the “working class”? I tire of this constant separation of black America and the “working class.” It is an extremely racist and insensitive distinction that Democrats will continue to make at their peril.

 

[El Bombi]

That's a true point as well. Especially considering in some states illegal immigrants (California) are treated better than the poor and homeless.

Democrats will never have a true chance at Texas with their stance on illegal immigration.

Both Black & White people in Texas are on the opposite of the Democrats when it comes to immigration.

 

[#1 pick]

Are black people not among the hardest working members of the “working class”? I tire of this constant separation of black America and the “working class.” It is an extremely racist and insensitive distinction that Democrats will continue to make to their peril.

To us, yes and historically speaking, 100%, but to them, we aren't hard working, lazy, and they just need our votes.

 

[CrimsonTider]

he’s right... but also wrong for many reasons... he doesn’t understand white people or understands them from an outsider scope.. most dont.

1. most times when people, usually the right and republicans talk about “working class”, to them that means = white people, white rural americans etc which brings me to my next point since they hate Mass and states like ours

2. Massachusetts is one of the most pro democratic working class states, our state is huge on unions! unions ruin our state! filled with the demographic of people repubs claim to love IE construction workers, independent contracts and workers, business owners. there’s more mom and pop shops here than there are big businesses edit (not everywhere, though.. but here in springfield there is and it’s mostly non whites) & a large population of immigrants, white and non white..who moved here and aren’t ‘criminals’ like the lie republican claims and actually own their own businesses and contribute hugely to our economies. republicans and racists don’t actually love the working class, they ‘love’ the ‘working class’ that is mostly separated from non whites. they ‘love’ the working class they can take advantage of the most IE florida with illegal immigration, florida is anti union because they get illegal immigrants to do the shyt for way cheaper and the workers rights aren’t protected at all!

3. it’s not about appealing to the “democratic working class”, it’s about appealing to the white working class thats racists and shoot their nose off to spite their face aka racists who are against things that will benefit them mostly just because they don’t want black people and poc to benefit as well

4. the right and republicans believe that people, specially ADOS are stuck on a “democratic plantation that keeps them slaves and oppressed”. we can all agree that dems really haven’t done shyt for black people, that even in the most democratic states the racial wealth gap is huge. it is very big here in Massachusetts..manufacturing jobs actually contribute to that, as they take advantage of black people, POC and immigrants the most. i could get into that if anyone is interested, as i’ve seen this throughout years over time i’ve mostly worked in manufacturing.) BUT democratic states do have a lot more laws, social benefits etc that help non whites, specifically black people, and you know... way less voter oppression (i know, one less evil for another etc). and very importantly... way better education! mostly republican controlled states are ranked the lowest in education across the US.

in other words... dems somehow need to appeal to racist people that hate black people, and POC unless they can take advantage of them on behalf of money and white supremacy.

you contradicted yourself on “Dems don’t do shyt for black people” and how much better it is for black people in democratic areas vs Republican area

To further this point the wealth gap argument is more nuanced. The fact that the wealthiest whites have so much more money than they wealthiest blacks is part of the reason for huge wealth disparity

if you take a look at the wealth gap for middle class black folks in these democratic strongholds vs middle class and rural whites then the gaps comes down tremendously

 

[NotaPAWG]

True. But the white working class thought Bernie was an evil communist.

There are only two ways the Democrats can win over the white working class. Either

A) Make them less racist

B) Educate them on democratic socialism

I'm not confident either option will happen

yeah, neither of these are ever going to happen

dems strategy for awhile now isn’t working because they care too hard on still appealing to those people not worth appealing to and a harder chance of getting their vote to switch than black people, hispanics & latinos and other races and really putting fourth tangibles, policies and laws to help their communities thus strengthening their support.

 

[humminbird]

He can shut up

 

[NotaPAWG]

you contradicted yourself on “Dems don’t do shyt for black people” and how much better it is for black people in democratic areas vs Republican area

To further this point the wealth gap argument is more nuanced. The fact that the wealthiest whites have so much more money than they wealthiest blacks is part of the reason for huge wealth disparity

if you take a look at the wealth gap for middle class black folks in these democratic strongholds vs middle class and rural whites then the gaps comes down tremendously

dems don’t do shyt specifically for black people, they don’t, they won’t,, they will never offer reparations strictly for ADOS! they will never put fourth a policy that is specifically for black people and ADOS to benefit from only. that will never happen. what they do is put fourth policies and some things that just so happen to help black peoples. that’s the angle they work with. where the “other side” (i hate to even make this into that), put fourth policies and laws the same way.. but they know will benefit whites the most and hurt the black people the most. that’s how whites operate.

 

[CrimsonTider]

I mean at some points he's right that Dems need to improve on selling leftist policies that improve the working class. But he's obviously also saying that Dems should focus less on racial issues as well like BLM and whatever to appease scared whites who might be turned off by cultural inclusion issues. It's not like he's the only with this point however, because that working class platform was the same thing that Bernie focused instead of racial issues and a lot of minorities still loved him. We'll see where the party goes because I don't have an easy answer.

Not enough minorities loved Bernie

liberals in these big diverse coastal cities have to stop believing the false idea that you win national elections with policies

Biden is going to win the presidency by leaning into BLM and bringing up Trumps racism

liberals thinking that campaigning on Medicare 4 all instead calling Trump out for his racism was going to get black people in Detroit and Atlanta to the polls are out of their mind

 

[CrimsonTider]

dems don’t do shyt specifically for black people, they don’t, they won’t,, they will never offer reparations strictly for ADOS! they will never put fourth a policy that is specifically for black people and ADOS to benefit from only. that will never happen. what they do is put fourth policies and some things that just so happen to help black people.

Shut up bytch. I’m talking about realistic shyt. Not your fake internet dreams of reparations

don’t quote me with this fukk shyt

 

[Voice of Reason]

The Democrats have a long term problem on their hands with no easy solution. If they don't watch it and switch up things, they are going to lose even worse in 2022 and even they know that. They had all the momentum. They gotta realize that throwing money at a candidate and all the Twitter followers and social media movements don't necessarily declare victory. Nothing matters until people step into the polls and vote. I remember reading a few days before the election that they were just so sure that they were going to keep the house and gain seats from it. Instead they actually lost some. Now they are stuck in house fighting and arguing with each other trying to figure out what went wrong and no one has the answers why.

Unfortunately for them, Nancy and largely Schumer still represent the old guard and status quo. The same reasoning for wanting to remove her years back is the same reason why they should vote her out now. She played her cards wrong in thinking that they would have control of the House, Senate and presidency and didn't have to deal with Mitch anymore. Now that's not the case, so in the end she will still more than likely have to go down on her $ 2 billion dollar asking price as she will need Mitch and friends to help get it passed.

She's 80 years old and is not the right person to lead the party into the future. They actually need to have the courage to vote her out instead of chickening out and keep status quo as they did years ago when the chance to get her out.

The two senate seats up for grabs in Georgia gives her some leverage though. If the democrats promise another 1200 dollar stimulus they will win the election so Mitch can't cut too much or he loses those two seats.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

The two senate seats up for grabs in Georgia gives her some leverage though. If the democrats promise another 1200 dollar stimulus they will win the election so Mitch can't cut too much or he loses those two seats.

One of those seats have already went Republican, so there's only one left. Even then, that one is only going to a runoff anyways as there were two Republicans running (Doug Collins and Kelly Loeffler) who split the party vote. It's a slim chance that Democrats win that race anyways as Republicans might focus in on having a particular candidate of the two win the race and keep the seat.

 

[Voice of Reason]

One of those seats have already went Republican, so there's only one left. Even then, that one is only going to a runoff anyways as there were two Republicans running (Doug Collins and Kelly Loeffler) who split the party vote. It's a slim chance that Democrats win that race anyways as Republicans might focus in on having a particular candidate of the two win the race and keep the seat.

Both are going to a run off