Andy Dalton 6yrs 115mil...Bengals lost

[yseJ]

folks talkin that 'andy TOOK them to playoffs 3 years in the row' no he didnt

people forget WHY the bengals became better.

in 2009 they lost only 6 games with palmer.

then they won 4 games the year after and went to rebuild mode with stellar success

were able to give away overrated, average qb for a kings ransom of draft picks (THATS how its done)
draft geno atkins, gresham, dunlap in 2010
then aj green, dalton (young unproven qb) and

they gave away their starting qb and drafted a young one not asking stupid questions of oh whaaat would we do without our average ass qb

they couldve held onto palmer, have a proverbial bird in the hand and not do shyt. but they didnt back then and thats why theyre a good team now.

 

[red222]

I blame the Bears for this ridiculous shyt. fukking Cutler

Bengals gonna Bengals that Cutler contract is basically a 3 year deal.

 

[Lucky_Lefty]

Don't wanna hear nobody pop shyt about Flacco. At least he's won a title. What have these other dudes done?

 

[yseJ]

The fukk. Not everybody is Tom Brady as in not everybody automatically goes to the SB their first year starting.

Y'all nikkas got outrageous expectations for young QBs

the expectations are proportional to their contract value
when you are making more total contract dough than any other 3 non-qb positions on your team combined, you expect to have some kind of low expectations ? lol

 

[Trip]

Breh. It was a 5th round pick. Any QB left could have fit there. They went for the one with the most credentials. Long term back up or training camp fodder. I dunno why anyone thought he was being drafted for anything else.

Thought he was a 4th, my bad

 

[Listen]

There is a reason that teams fall off or never succeed in the first place...it's called bad decisions. I don't think anyone is mad at Dalton for getting the money or failing to understand why he was given the money. The issue is the impact of him getting his money on the Bengals. The pressure is on him to show and prove. No more excuses or pleas.

Did the Bengals not do exactly that with Carson?

So if your the Bengals, and you are finally fielding a competitive team for the past few seasons, and regardless of what the doubters in here are talking about, Andy Dalton was a significant part of that success...and hes coming off his rookie deal; you would left him walk and trade a known commodity with a relatively known value who is still young for an even younger player with an even more unknown value because you would rather spend the cap room elsewhere? How would you sell that to the Lockeroom? Plus, you'd have to mortgage your future drafts to move up to grab a QB who will be better than Dalton (or you hope he is anyways) and all those guys in that facility who have playoff and Super Bowl aspirations see Blake Bortles running our their instead of Dalton.....I mean.

To do it correctly, you need to have a guy you trust then draft a guy who you like and then see him in your system and in your huddle in your practices to know its time to move on for a cheaper, better player.

San Fran did this, The Patriots did this, the Eagles did this, and it works.

 

[McTwerk]

The Bengals got too much invested in offensive skill players to have to start over at QB, and while Dalton has not been Elite, he has had above average seasons.
I didn't see how long he had left on his current contract, but the team is kind of in a live with what you got scenario, as opposed to restarting at the QB position to have AJ and others get disgruntled and want to walk. So, they overpaid, as most teams do at the QB slot, and hope he can continue to grow and manage games better to get them to the SB. Same scenario is certainly less likely if starting over at the QB position....

As a Jets fan, I would have been happy to have had his production over the last couple seasons

 

[Trip]

Maybe they'll ask him to do less? Thats all they've been talking about the whole offseason. Which I keep trying to tell nikkas but this place is like a barbershop where the loudest motherfukker thinks they won the argument.

Breh. You don't have a QB like Dalton and have him throw 35 times a game. That's how you fukk UP young QBs, especially ones like Andy who are somewhat limited in the first place. Hue Jackson realizes this. Jay Gruden doesn't and he was calling plays like it's fukking Madden. There was no balance.

They had him throw because they couldnt run...Gio's not an every down back. Do think Jeremy Hill will get some OROY consideration though..

 

[FTBS]

the expectations are proportional to their contract value
when you are making more total contract dough than any other 3 non-qb positions on your team combined, you expect to have some kind of low expectations ? lol

fukk that he deserves his money!!! Just don't expect commensurate value for said money. That's just unfair and ridiculous.

 

[FTBS]

So if your the Bengals, and you are finally fielding a competitive team for the past few seasons, and regardless of what the doubters in here are talking about, Andy Dalton was a significant part of that success...and hes coming off his rookie deal; you would left him walk and trade a known commodity with a relatively known value who is still young for an even younger player with an even more unknown value because you would rather spend the cap room elsewhere? How would you sell that to the Lockeroom? Plus, you'd have to mortgage your future drafts to move up to grab a QB who will be better than Dalton (or you hope he is anyways) and all those guys in that facility who have playoff and Super Bowl aspirations see Blake Bortles running our their instead of Dalton.....I mean.

To do it correctly, you need to have a guy you trust then draft a guy who like and then see him in your system and in your huddle in your practices to know its time to move on for a cheaper, better player.

San Fran did this, The Patriots did this, the Eagles did this, and it works.

He is still on that rookie deal and can't walk anywhere yet. To do it correctly you need to do exactly what the Bengals did in getting Dalton.

 

[jadillac]

Young AJ McCarron gonna come in and take his job

 

[Trip]

Feel free to enlighten me and show me where I went wrong.

Let's see here:

Bad decisions doom teams. Not sure what the argument against that is.

Bengals got rid of Carson and picked up Dalton in the 2nd round and experienced more success in his first 3 years than Carson did in his life. Not sure what the argument against that is.

Carson seems to be one of the last guys that never really recovered after the knee injury. He was awesome in 2005 till Kimo took out his leg.

 

[yseJ]

I can't blame one guy for the play of an entire team.

you cant have it both ways tho

either you say qb is the most important position on the team, thus getting the most money is justified, but ALSO hold them accountable

OR

you say qb is as important as any other position, thus getting most money is NOT justified, and hold the team accountable

but you wanna say its OK to pay the QB mad money just because everyone else is doing it
and then hold them non accountable, therefore basically admitting the inflated value they actually provide to the team

it doesnt make ANY logical or common sense

if you put qb position on pedestal and pray to it, hold it accountable as well
otherwise its not only intellectually dishonest, its plain dumb logic

 

[godkiller]

The whole "6-year-115-million-dollar-contract" label is just lip service until we see the contract details. Pending the yearly guarantee isn't too high and the cap hit is set to an above average QB level, I think this is a good deal for the Bengals. Dalton needs to get over his hump and if he does, that's a SB appearance.

 

[Brady-Carter]

The whole "6-year-115-million-dollar-contract" label is just lip service until we see the contract details. Pending the yearly guarantee isn't too high and the cap hit is set to an above average QB level, I think this is a good deal for the Bengals. Dalton needs to get over his hump and if he does, that's a SB appearance.

It's mind boggling that people still go crazy over NFL contracts without seeing the structure and guarantee money. That 6year 115m number is pure BS.