Angela Rye on immigrant, shutdown, Dem response, and more

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Are there black people who are immigrants?

I don't care what random people on twitter with an agenda say.

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Yes, but I'm not an immigrant and I was talking about the YouTube video.
 

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Most Black people aren't immigrants...

To say immigration is a Black issue is false...
But there are black people who are immigrants in this country. :huh:

Most black people aren't poor, but poverty is 100% a black issue.

Most black people will have no interaction with the criminal justice system, but criminal justice reform is 100% a black issue.
 

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But there are black people who are immigrants in this country. :huh:

Most black people aren't poor, but poverty is 100% a black issue.

Most black people will have no interaction with the criminal justice system, but criminal justice reform is 100% a black issue.

What?

Most Black people are poor...

Black males have the highest chance to have an interaction with law enforcement...

The reason why these are Black issues is because it affects Black people the most...and we are talking about Native Black Americans...

The reason why immigration ain't our issues...because most of the Black people here are born here...and descend from slaves...


This is not Europe. This is not Canada. Immigration ain't our problem..

It's a African and West Indian problem...and y'all are a minority...

Y'all don't get to jump up and say immigration is a Black issue when the majority of us ain't immigrants.

That's like me going to Nigeria and start tryna bring up my issues as a Black American as a "Nigerian"...

Nah it don't work that way...

Y'all can go with the other immigrants and say it's problem bu you can't come up in the Black umbrella and say it's a problem...:yeshrug:

That immigrant shyt is dead last on Black issues...we ain't getting deported anywhere...and our citizenship was earned in blood and servitude...:hubie:
 

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So people are acting like she's saying slaves were immigrants or something?

Are you guys idiots :russ:

No...we are saying that immigration ain't a Black issue because the majority of us aren't immigrants or descend from immigrants...and she don't need to go about trying to get Black people to support non-Black causes...like pro-immigration...by being disingenuous about our origin...
 
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What?

Most Black people are poor...

Black males have the highest chance to have an interaction with law enforcement...

The reason why these are Black issues is because it affects Black people the most...and we are talking about Native Black Americans...

The reason why immigration ain't our issues...because most of the Black people here are born here...and descend from slaves...


This is not Europe. This is not Canada. Immigration ain't our problem..

It's a African and West Indian problem...and y'all are a minority...

Y'all don't get to jump up and say immigration is a Black issue when the majority of us ain't immigrants.

That's like me going to Nigeria and start tryna bring up my issues as a Black American as a "Nigerian"...

Nah it don't work that way...

Y'all can go with the other immigrants and say it's problem bu you can't come up in the Black umbrella and say it's a problem...:yeshrug:

That immigrant shyt is dead last on Black issues...we ain't getting deported anywhere...and our citizenship was earned in blood and servitude...:hubie:
EXACTLY, breh. They don't get it, Angela Rye CLEARLY SAID "BLACK PEOPLE PEOPLE ARE IMMIGRANTS".

I am not an immigrant neither is anyone in my family.
 

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Semantically this is true. Black people aren't native to the US but the circumstances of the move don't exactly fit the bill of immigration. I guess the problem is there isnt a suitable enough term cause native is disingenuous and fukk that DOS shyt

African american is good enough for me since the context behind the lack of country specified tells the story. I'd expect continental africans to be "liberian-American" etc

But really, is this discussion really worth a fukk besides pissing contests?Most immigrants in general assimilate into American "culture" in less than 5 generations. Your average american born african isnt going to be living a radically different life than AA, the culture in this country is consumerist anyway and folks dont really perserve many black non consumer/media cultural practices outside of the million man march.

Which in my eyes if the law says you american, youre american to me. all this other shyt doesnt matter and is the seed from which racism grows. :yeshrug: Ideally in a world without racism this is how black people in this country would be seen and there wouldnt have been so much atrocoties to be endured.



 

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Most Black people are poor...
21% of black people are poor according to the last metrics from 2017.

That’s a high number, but in order for it to be most, it needs to be 51%.

Black males have the highest chance to have an interaction with law enforcement...
That’s not what I said. Most black people will have no interaction with the criminal justice system. Remember, most means above 51%.
 

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So you want what's best for the majority race in this country :patrice:

I don't want the best for anybody that ain't my kind...

And Native Black American is my kind....and in terms of Black people in this country...we are the majority and everybody else that is Black and ain't my kind need to follow suit or stand on their own...if you wanna be in the box what us...then you gonna have to follow our lead...



Just like Japanese Koreans ain't considered...in the overall context of the destiny of Japanese people...since they are the minority...when Japanese people think of Japanese people they ain't thinking about Koreans...

Black immigrants aren't to be considered...

I wouldn't be in Nigeria, Haiti, Brazil and etc wouldn't be over there talking about what about my kind...

Nah...I would be for the Black majority in that country...cause I am in their country...if I wanted to be considered and put first...I would be in my own country...

That's just common sense...
 

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I don't want the best for anybody that ain't my kind...

And Native Black American is my kind....and in terms of Black people in this country...we are the majority and everybody else that is Black and ain't my kind need to follow suit or stand on their own...if you wanna be in the box what us...then you gonna have to follow our lead...



Just like Japanese Koreans ain't considered...in the overall context of the destiny of Japanese people...since they are the minority...when Japanese people think of Japanese people they ain't thinking about Koreans...

Black immigrants aren't to be considered...

I wouldn't be in Nigeria, Haiti, Brazil and etc wouldn't be over there talking about what about my kind...

Nah...I would be for the Black majority in that country...cause I am in their country...if I wanted to be considered and put first...I would be in my own country...

That's just common sense...
Some of the people in this thread sound anti-Black American, breh. It seems like it's always about their plight and what we need to do for them.

But, when reciprocation comes up, they're no where to be find.

And if their families migrated here, got citizenship, and are "Black Americans", shouldn't they be down for OUR Black American cause?
 

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Some of the people in this thread sound anti-Black American, breh. It seems like it's always about their plight and what we need to do for them.

But, when reciprocation comes up, they're no where to be find.

And if their families migrated here, got citizenship, and are "Black Americans", shouldn't they be down for OUR Black American cause?

People don't view the USA as a place with some sort of "indigenous" history and people that need to be respected and cherished...

They view it like a colony...

So yeah must people that immigrant to the USA don't give a fukk about it...or the people that live here and just see an opportunity...

And any threat to the view of the USA as a capitalistic paradise colony...but a real place with a history and a culture that is not just some flyby night shyt...is treated as some sort of xenophobia...

And the citizenship laws of this country...you know the refusal to establish blood rights but wanna have silly birthplace citizenship...doesn't help the image of this country as a capitalistic paradise colony...
 
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