Another brother from the manosphere taking L to racist destiny smh

[Tair]

Blue hair was posted in an (assumed) majority black male forum, likely by a bm. This topic (as of my response) has 20 pages of comments, most of which are attacking blue hair. Unsavory topics and stats are posted here and routinely on the first page of this forum, I'm not sure how that is relevant to cacs. It has very little to do with why people are not rebutting blue hair's talking points.

You couldve viewed the video, listened to his statements and rebutted them. Instead you quote me, went on a tangent that has little to do with me or my question, and asked me to lay out his statements for you.


I asked if anyone has refuted his points and no one has (outside of ad hominem attacks) including yourself.

There's a reason for that.

The premise of his argument that "in the past all you had to do was show up to get married" is patently wrong.

 

[Ahadi]

Idk man, I can't imagine an elite black man in the 21st century taking time out his day to debate a blue haired european.

Like the other brother said... certain black men have an elitist energy.

A lot of black ppl in this thread lost.

 

[High Art]

Blue hair was posted in an (assumed) majority black male forum, likely by a bm. This topic (as of my response) has 20 pages of comments, most of which are attacking blue hair. Unsavory topics and stats are posted here and routinely on the first page of this forum, I'm not sure how that is relevant to cacs. It has very little to do with why people are not rebutting blue hair's talking points.

You couldve viewed the video, listened to his statements and rebutted them. Instead you quote me, went on a tangent that has little to do with me or my question, and asked me to lay out his statements for you.


I asked if anyone has refuted his points and no one has (outside of ad hominem attacks) including yourself.

There's a reason for that.

You've given me this long-winded excuse instead of presenting his arguments as I've asked. It would literally be easier for everyone since I don't want to waste my time arguing about what his points were to begin with. I've done that on here before, I'm not doing that again. You obviously watched the video, post the arguments in question and stop wasting my time.

Also, again, unsavory stats for the most part are not posted on here for the most part. If you think that is no problem, open this forum to 4cac then.

 

[Jazzy B.]

You can't be serious, breh.

C. Delores Tucker dedicated a decade to criticism of the violent and misogynistic filth present in so much gansta rap. How did the rappers respond? They called her a bytch, a slut, and told her to suck their dikks. Kinda proves her point, don't it?

Black people have not benefited a single iota from the glorification of rappers. Only a handful of the rappers themselves and the members of the Tribe who finance them have benefited.

The fact that you had to go all the way back to C Delores Tucker which was a damn generation ago proves my point

WHO is calling out rappers TODAY and NOW in the black mainstream? The answer is NOBODY. Because TODAY they are revered.

 

[Gloxina]

So if a man asks you to help clean the gutters, cut the yard, or help him life up heavy bree branches, you would help voluntarily?

Cause what I mean is, if you were living by yourself, you would have to cook and clean and do minor labor shyt for yourself, since no one else is there. If you worked only 3 days a week as a part time nurse, would you still cook for your family just twice a week?

This is where some men get funny. We’re are talking about DAILY things.

Hubby and wife: Working FT Mon-Fri

-Multiple meals need to be cooked Mon-Fri
-Kids need to be fed, bathed put to bed
Mon-Fi
-Kids need to be dropped off/picked up
from daycare Mon-Fri
-House needs to be tidied up after kids
eat/play Mon-Fri

Sooooooo

Just daily shyt through the M-F workweek when people have a family.

If you work 40hrs a week and your wife works 40hrs a week. What exactly is going to happen? You’re going to come home and watch tv/relax every week night when you get home and let your wife do EVERYTHING I outlined above EVERY MONDAY THRU FRIDAY

Do you clean the gutters every week
Do you mow everyday
You lifting heavy branches every morning before work

We are taking about DAILY HOUSEHOLD LIFE

Notice I didn’t even say anything about laundry or dishes, or the trash and you’re skipping to traditionally male chores that literally not done daily or sometimes even weekly

_____________________

“Cause what I mean is, if you were living by yourself, you would have to cook and clean and do minor labor shyt for yourself, since no one else is there.”

Uh, and when you were a single man you were paying rent for one or living with a roommate. So now that you have a wife and two kids paying the mortgage for a house for 4 ppl ain’t nothing and I shouldn’t think it’s a big deal, right?
You got it!

See, this is part of the issue. Men downplay women’s work, but expect us to understand why what you contribute is so important.

Yea. I cook and clean for ONE PERSON.
Cooking and cleaning up after 2 people, let alone a FAMILY is HARD.

Just like you paying rent for yourself (or splitting with a roomie) is WAY EASIER than having to shoulder a mortgage for a 5 bedroom house in a good neighborhood including utilities, insurance, maintenance and upkeep is HARD.

Which is why you have the ability to take care of ALL FINANCES a smart woman shuts her mouth, shows appreciation and takes care of all household duties.

HOWEVER, if you aren’t Top G, all expenses paid for your lady, you need to get in the kitchen a couple nights a week while she’s driving from work to the daycare to pick up the kids YOU impregnated with although YOU didn’t have the money to keep her in the house all day so she could focus on the household duties and have the kids all set before you got home from work.

THAT is the trade off and what separates a boss who commands that ultimate level of respect from a man who can’t provide on that level.

AGAIN- no one is saying a woman shouldn’t respect a man who can’t fully provide, just like a woman shouldn’t be disrespected because she wasn’t lucky enough to be born with the perfect button nose and natural tiny waist/phat ass.

The point is if you have a woman you love who is in the workforce just like you, you need to help out with the daily tasks that keep the household running.

That is the literal trade off.

If you can afford a stay at home wife, you’re supposed to pick a woman who comes from a traditional family who knows how to run a household and will have things organized and perfect when you return home from work.

In the old days when a man came home and his drink was poured, paper was folded and waiting for him with his slippers, kids were done with homework and helping mom set the table for dinner by 530/6 when dad comes home?

How the hell do you think all that happened before dad got home? Because mom was home ALL DAY picking kids up from school/practice, prepping dinner, helping with homework, tidying the house and making things presentable for dad when he walked in the door.

See, a lot of times the only men who understand and appreciate “woman’s work” are the men who actually grew up in traditional homes with stay at home moms so they actually lived this shyt and understand it without me typing it out.
They grew up seeing their moms do all this day in and day out while dad was at work, so they understand the time, energy and sacrifice that comes with it so they work to put themselves in a position to afford a stay at home wife OR understand that they gotta help out around the house if they have a wife who is working full time like them because there isn’t enough time in the day to do everything.

So it’s cool. The ones who get it get it.

I guess it’s like the guys who say they can’t date women who didn’t have dads. If you didn’t grow up with a certain dynamic you won’t get it.

 

[Dave24]

This is where some men get funny. We’re are talking about DAILY things.

Hubby and wife: Working FT Mon-Fri

-Multiple meals need to be cooked Mon-Fri
-Kids need to be fed, bathed put to bed
Mon-Fi
-Kids need to be dropped off/picked up
from daycare Mon-Fri
-House needs to be tidied up after kids
eat/play Mon-Fri

Sooooooo

Just daily shyt through the M-F workweek when people have a family.

If you work 40hrs a week and your wife works 40hrs a week. What exactly is going to happen? You’re going to come home and watch tv/relax every week night when you get home and let your wife do EVERYTHING I outlined above EVERY MONDAY THRU FRIDAY

Do you clean the gutters every week
Do you mow everyday
You lifting heavy branches every morning before work

We are taking about DAILY HOUSEHOLD LIFE

Notice I didn’t even say anything about laundry or dishes, or the trash and you’re skipping to traditionally male chores that literally not done daily or sometimes even weekly

_____________________

“Cause what I mean is, if you were living by yourself, you would have to cook and clean and do minor labor shyt for yourself, since no one else is there.”

Uh, and when you were a single man you were paying rent for one or living with a roommate. So now that you have a wife and two kids paying the mortgage for a house for 4 ppl ain’t nothing and I shouldn’t think it’s a big deal, right?
You got it!

See, this is part of the issue. Men downplay women’s work, but expect us to understand why what you contribute is so important.

Yea. I cook and clean for ONE PERSON.
Cooking and cleaning up after 2 people, let alone a FAMILY is HARD.

Just like you paying rent for yourself (or splitting with a roomie) is WAY EASIER than having to shoulder a mortgage for a 5 bedroom house in a good neighborhood including utilities, insurance, maintenance and upkeep is HARD.

Which is why you have the ability to take care of ALL FINANCES a smart woman shuts her mouth, shows appreciation and takes care of all household duties.

HOWEVER, if you aren’t Top G, all expenses paid for your lady, you need to get in the kitchen a couple nights a week while she’s driving from work to the daycare to pick up the kids YOU impregnated with although YOU didn’t have the money to keep her in the house all day so she could focus on the household duties and have the kids all set before you got home from work.

THAT is the trade off and what separates a boss who commands that ultimate level of respect from a man who can’t provide on that level.

AGAIN- no one is saying a woman shouldn’t respect a man who can’t fully provide, just like a woman shouldn’t be disrespected because she wasn’t lucky enough to be born with the perfect button nose and natural tiny waist/phat ass.

The point is if you have a woman you love who is in the workforce just like you, you need to help out with the daily tasks that keep the household running.

That is the literal trade off.

If you can afford a stay at home wife, you’re supposed to pick a woman who comes from a traditional family who knows how to run a household and will have things organized and perfect when you return home from work.

In the old days when a man came home and his drink was poured, paper was folded and waiting for him with his slippers, kids were done with homework and helping mom set the table for dinner by 530/6 when dad comes home?

How the hell do you think all that happened before dad got home? Because mom was home ALL DAY picking kids up from school/practice, prepping dinner, helping with homework, tidying the house and making things presentable for dad when he walked in the door.

See, a lot of times the only men who understand and appreciate “woman’s work” are the men who actually grew up in traditional homes with stay at home moms so they actually lived this shyt and understand it without me typing it out.
They grew up seeing their moms do all this day in and day out while dad was at work, so they understand the time, energy and sacrifice that comes with it so they work to put themselves in a position to afford a stay at home wife OR understand that they gotta help out around the house if they have a wife who is working full time like them because there isn’t enough time in the day to do everything.

So it’s cool. The ones who get it get it.

I guess it’s like the guys who say they can’t date women who didn’t have dads. If you didn’t grow up with a certain dynamic you won’t get it.

 

[Gloxina]

A man who understands


I might have to save this shyt because I’m not typing it out again.
The men who grew up in it already know

 

[Dave24]

A man who understands


I might have to save this shyt because I’m not typing it out again.
The men who grew up in it already know

Loved that post, I'm printing it out and using it as a referral in the future if I ever get in a relationship/married.

 

[Gloxina]

Loved that post, I'm printing it out and using it as a referral in the future if I ever get in a relationship/married.

Aw, yay! Then you know what, I feel like I’ve done my job here lol

But truly, it’s just about love and respect. People want their efforts to be appreciated. It only works if you both play your roles, and RESPECT each other’s roles. Everyone has a position they play and everyone gives 100%. That’s how you develop well-rounded healthy kids who are ready to face life’s challenges as young adults, and you get to look back on your life as a success.

As long as you find someone who is aligned with you and you both remain on your purpose…
Go forth and multiply
Lol

 

[audemarzz]

women needed men for everything, things were so great back then …Now, they have options and that sucks

This was never the case in the US, bobblehead.

 

[Wild self]

This is where some men get funny. We’re are talking about DAILY things.

Hubby and wife: Working FT Mon-Fri

-Multiple meals need to be cooked Mon-Fri
-Kids need to be fed, bathed put to bed
Mon-Fi
-Kids need to be dropped off/picked up
from daycare Mon-Fri
-House needs to be tidied up after kids
eat/play Mon-Fri

Sooooooo

Just daily shyt through the M-F workweek when people have a family.

If you work 40hrs a week and your wife works 40hrs a week. What exactly is going to happen? You’re going to come home and watch tv/relax every week night when you get home and let your wife do EVERYTHING I outlined above EVERY MONDAY THRU FRIDAY

Do you clean the gutters every week
Do you mow everyday
You lifting heavy branches every morning before work

We are taking about DAILY HOUSEHOLD LIFE

Notice I didn’t even say anything about laundry or dishes, or the trash and you’re skipping to traditionally male chores that literally not done daily or sometimes even weekly

_____________________

“Cause what I mean is, if you were living by yourself, you would have to cook and clean and do minor labor shyt for yourself, since no one else is there.”

Uh, and when you were a single man you were paying rent for one or living with a roommate. So now that you have a wife and two kids paying the mortgage for a house for 4 ppl ain’t nothing and I shouldn’t think it’s a big deal, right?
You got it!

See, this is part of the issue. Men downplay women’s work, but expect us to understand why what you contribute is so important.

Yea. I cook and clean for ONE PERSON.
Cooking and cleaning up after 2 people, let alone a FAMILY is HARD.

Just like you paying rent for yourself (or splitting with a roomie) is WAY EASIER than having to shoulder a mortgage for a 5 bedroom house in a good neighborhood including utilities, insurance, maintenance and upkeep is HARD.

Which is why you have the ability to take care of ALL FINANCES a smart woman shuts her mouth, shows appreciation and takes care of all household duties.

HOWEVER, if you aren’t Top G, all expenses paid for your lady, you need to get in the kitchen a couple nights a week while she’s driving from work to the daycare to pick up the kids YOU impregnated with although YOU didn’t have the money to keep her in the house all day so she could focus on the household duties and have the kids all set before you got home from work.

THAT is the trade off and what separates a boss who commands that ultimate level of respect from a man who can’t provide on that level.

AGAIN- no one is saying a woman shouldn’t respect a man who can’t fully provide, just like a woman shouldn’t be disrespected because she wasn’t lucky enough to be born with the perfect button nose and natural tiny waist/phat ass.

The point is if you have a woman you love who is in the workforce just like you, you need to help out with the daily tasks that keep the household running.

That is the literal trade off.

If you can afford a stay at home wife, you’re supposed to pick a woman who comes from a traditional family who knows how to run a household and will have things organized and perfect when you return home from work.

In the old days when a man came home and his drink was poured, paper was folded and waiting for him with his slippers, kids were done with homework and helping mom set the table for dinner by 530/6 when dad comes home?

How the hell do you think all that happened before dad got home? Because mom was home ALL DAY picking kids up from school/practice, prepping dinner, helping with homework, tidying the house and making things presentable for dad when he walked in the door.

See, a lot of times the only men who understand and appreciate “woman’s work” are the men who actually grew up in traditional homes with stay at home moms so they actually lived this shyt and understand it without me typing it out.
They grew up seeing their moms do all this day in and day out while dad was at work, so they understand the time, energy and sacrifice that comes with it so they work to put themselves in a position to afford a stay at home wife OR understand that they gotta help out around the house if they have a wife who is working full time like them because there isn’t enough time in the day to do everything.

So it’s cool. The ones who get it get it.

I guess it’s like the guys who say they can’t date women who didn’t have dads. If you didn’t grow up with a certain dynamic you won’t get it.

Some of us grew up in households that mothers worked full time and still cooked at least 2 to 3 times a week. Even a handful of "pick me" women still agree with that today.

I would prefer my woman working part time when the kids are young, and go full time when the kids are in middle school.

 

[Gloxina]

Some of us grew up in households that mothers worked full time and still cooked at least 2 to 3 times a week. Even a handful of "pick me" women still agree with that today.

I would prefer my woman working part time when the kids are young, and go full time when the kids are in middle school.

If she cooked 2-3 days a week, what happened the 4-5 days a week mom didn’t cook?

If you reread what I said- two adults are in the household. I never said a working wife doesn’t cook.

If you’re both working FT and she cooks 2-3 days a week, what happens the other days?

This was about FT versus housewife examples

 

[Wild self]

If she cooked 2-3 days a week, what happened the 4-5 days a week mom didn’t cook?

If you reread what I said- two adults are in the household. I never said a working wife doesn’t cook.

If you’re both working FT and she cooks 2-3 days a week, what happens the other days?

This was about FT versus housewife examples

I ate leftover in those days. You know, re-heat food and eat it the next night.

And working Full time before kids are of puberty is a reckless option. After the kids hit 6th or 7th grade, then she can work FT.

 

[Mowgli]

The one demographic of women who legit DO NOT NEED MEN....are white women

the rest of you hoes broke....according to the data

Single white women are richer than Single white men.

They do need men to continue being rich because they're siphoning money from men via the court system and inheritance laws. They aren't out earning men with work

 

[High Art]

This is where some men get funny. We’re are talking about DAILY things.

Hubby and wife: Working FT Mon-Fri

-Multiple meals need to be cooked Mon-Fri
-Kids need to be fed, bathed put to bed
Mon-Fi
-Kids need to be dropped off/picked up
from daycare Mon-Fri
-House needs to be tidied up after kids
eat/play Mon-Fri

Sooooooo

Just daily shyt through the M-F workweek when people have a family.

If you work 40hrs a week and your wife works 40hrs a week. What exactly is going to happen? You’re going to come home and watch tv/relax every week night when you get home and let your wife do EVERYTHING I outlined above EVERY MONDAY THRU FRIDAY

Do you clean the gutters every week
Do you mow everyday
You lifting heavy branches every morning before work

We are taking about DAILY HOUSEHOLD LIFE

Notice I didn’t even say anything about laundry or dishes, or the trash and you’re skipping to traditionally male chores that literally not done daily or sometimes even weekly

_____________________

“Cause what I mean is, if you were living by yourself, you would have to cook and clean and do minor labor shyt for yourself, since no one else is there.”

Uh, and when you were a single man you were paying rent for one or living with a roommate. So now that you have a wife and two kids paying the mortgage for a house for 4 ppl ain’t nothing and I shouldn’t think it’s a big deal, right?
You got it!

See, this is part of the issue. Men downplay women’s work, but expect us to understand why what you contribute is so important.

Yea. I cook and clean for ONE PERSON.
Cooking and cleaning up after 2 people, let alone a FAMILY is HARD.

Just like you paying rent for yourself (or splitting with a roomie) is WAY EASIER than having to shoulder a mortgage for a 5 bedroom house in a good neighborhood including utilities, insurance, maintenance and upkeep is HARD.

Which is why you have the ability to take care of ALL FINANCES a smart woman shuts her mouth, shows appreciation and takes care of all household duties.

HOWEVER, if you aren’t Top G, all expenses paid for your lady, you need to get in the kitchen a couple nights a week while she’s driving from work to the daycare to pick up the kids YOU impregnated with although YOU didn’t have the money to keep her in the house all day so she could focus on the household duties and have the kids all set before you got home from work.

THAT is the trade off and what separates a boss who commands that ultimate level of respect from a man who can’t provide on that level.

AGAIN- no one is saying a woman shouldn’t respect a man who can’t fully provide, just like a woman shouldn’t be disrespected because she wasn’t lucky enough to be born with the perfect button nose and natural tiny waist/phat ass.

The point is if you have a woman you love who is in the workforce just like you, you need to help out with the daily tasks that keep the household running.

That is the literal trade off.

If you can afford a stay at home wife, you’re supposed to pick a woman who comes from a traditional family who knows how to run a household and will have things organized and perfect when you return home from work.

In the old days when a man came home and his drink was poured, paper was folded and waiting for him with his slippers, kids were done with homework and helping mom set the table for dinner by 530/6 when dad comes home?

How the hell do you think all that happened before dad got home? Because mom was home ALL DAY picking kids up from school/practice, prepping dinner, helping with homework, tidying the house and making things presentable for dad when he walked in the door.

See, a lot of times the only men who understand and appreciate “woman’s work” are the men who actually grew up in traditional homes with stay at home moms so they actually lived this shyt and understand it without me typing it out.
They grew up seeing their moms do all this day in and day out while dad was at work, so they understand the time, energy and sacrifice that comes with it so they work to put themselves in a position to afford a stay at home wife OR understand that they gotta help out around the house if they have a wife who is working full time like them because there isn’t enough time in the day to do everything.

So it’s cool. The ones who get it get it.

I guess it’s like the guys who say they can’t date women who didn’t have dads. If you didn’t grow up with a certain dynamic you won’t get it.

I actually do agree with this. If you're going to expect your woman to work and do all these things by herself, then you're demanding a lot from her and essentially, as we say back home, "burning a candle from both ends". It's not sustainable in the long run.