Another Person Mauled To Death By A Pitbull...

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You are giving me excuses breh. If you think a non professional little "socialization" training will prevent an attack, you're kidding yourself. Any dog can go off true, but you must be especially diligent due to the nature of the pit. Same thing golden retrievers.
 

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rip to that poor baby girl :mjcry:

the owner gets the 100% blame on this, the dog obviously wasn't trained right in dealing with strangers around its territory and family, and the owner wasn't even home to calm the dog down, all of this could have easily been prevented if the dog was on a leash and not around the children.
 

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A little boy just got attacked in my complex the other day. The dog is a great dog. I have handled him and walked him but he had zero training and got no exercise. I knew it was only a matter of time before he hurt someone. It's too bad with the right training he could have been a great dog but his owners are idiots they let their children chase other children around the complex with him. It's the owners it's always the owners.
 

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So this pattern of attacks that we continue to see from pitbulls doesn't bother you? Seems like it would at least make you think twice about having them near your loved ones. BTW, what was that lab mixed with? :sas2:
There is no pattern if the source iß skewed, only instances. The dog was a lab/shepard mix. I have a pitbull and made sure I properly socialized my new girl with him. She is safe and I am comfortable. My ex was not socialized enough and we kept him in the downstairs apt if I wasnt around b/c of it. That is the responsible thing to do. If you dont, you shouldnt own medium+ size working/herd dogs. They are territorial/protective by nature.
 
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Nobody in my family dumb enough to have a Pitt in a house with young children or other small animals.

You can say the occurrence is low, better chance of being hit by a car etc. But most nikkas die when they drop their guard too low.

Yeah you could slip in the shower and hit your neck the wrong way and die...But I'd rather it be quick like that then even hear about my daughter passing away painfully and scared like that. Why even risk it? If the Death can be instant that is better. Death by animals rarely is instant...

As I mentioned on another thread, well fed domesticated animals tend to torture their prey to the brink of death and play with it until it slowly dies.
 
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A little boy just got attacked in my complex the other day. The dog is a great dog. I have handled him and walked him but he had zero training and got no exercise. I knew it was only a matter of time before he hurt someone. It's too bad with the right training he could have been a great dog but his owners are idiots they let their children chase other children around the complex with him. It's the owners it's always the owners.

My question is the nature of the dog. Most dogs who are abused of other breeds don't go around looking for human meat no matter how bad they are raised by humans. A lot of the time it is Pitts. No other dog be killing other small dogs or children like Pitts. The rest when they are abused usually attack adults because they relate them with abusers or they will whine and whimper because they think you have food and the owner not feeding them.

The psychology of Pitts are still questionable and they are bred to fight not to nurture small human children.
 

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Nobody in my family dumb enough to have a Pitt in a house with young children or other small animals.

You can say the occurrence is low, better chance of being hit by a car etc. But most nikkas die when they drop their guard too low.

Yeah you could slip in the shower and hit your neck the wrong way and die...But I'd rather it be quick like that then even hear about my daughter passing away painfully and scared like that. Why even risk it? If the Death can be instant that is better. Death by animals rarely is instant...

As I mentioned on another thread, well fed domesticated animals tend to torture their prey to the brink of death and play with it until it slowly dies.
Exactly! All these normal breeds out here, and people just HAVE to own a pitbull. For what?!? I guess risking the mauling of one of your loved ones is worth it just to say you own a pitbull. Just get a pug, or something....
 

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People don't realize that one of the best ways to protect yourselves from a dog going off is to have it professionally trained, not your little bs training. Pits need training when they are born and periodic training after.

Some of you are in denial.

You are giving me excuses breh. If you think a non professional little "socialization" training will prevent an attack, you're kidding yourself. Any dog can go off true, but you must be especially diligent due to the nature of the pit. Same thing golden retrievers.
What makes think I personally have not had my dogs professionally trained or have the credentials to do so myself? We are speaking on generals and now you have made it specifically about me. For as long as I have been alive, every dog we have owned has been professionally trained. Reason being almost every dog I have owned has been molosser type or German/Belgium based breed. All of which are guard or herding dogs which have the highest territory protection drive. My family was never irresponsible in owning a dog. My first volunteer service was assisting a local training kennel. I did that for years because I love dogs. If I had time or owned a smaller dog, I'm capable of professionally training it as I passed the test but did not certify because I was only volunteering. And training does not circumvent socializing. The two are not mutually exclusive but you must do both.

Let's stay on topic for the general population, not me specifically. You are posing good questions and making good points. Our conversation has been productive breh. Let's not derail it.

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And FYI, training does not circumvent socialization. The two are not mutually exclusive. You must socialize an individual with your dog so he does not perceive that person as a threat and do what he is trained to do. Unless they are socialized, a person will still be attacked by a well trained dog unless told not to. Th
 
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rip to that poor baby girl :mjcry:

the owner gets the 100% blame on this, the dog obviously wasn't trained right in dealing with strangers around its territory and family, and the owner wasn't even home to calm the dog down, all of this could have easily been prevented if the dog was on a leash and not around the children.
The owner wasnt home... But Dad was. Why wasnt the animal put up on general principle out of respect for the owner mot being around, only some homeless nikka?

Is tbis another case of parents not so subconsciosly wanting their seed to die?

Same goes for Latina mama sending her child over to a strangers house with a loose dog because thats where homeless dad is crashing. No child protective instincts whatsoever.
 

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I have a pit bull and a lab. I can tell you from experience some dogs, like people, a more aggressive than others, but the root of all, like people, is what their individual experiences have been and how they were raised. FYI there have been pit bulls that are certified as service dogs. What I would advise anyone with ANY large breed dog is to put in the time to train it properly. My kids love our dogs but I consistently have told them "Never forget that the dog is an animal". I teach them to enjoy the dogs but also respect them and know how to read the body language of a dog. In this case, the owner should be held responsible. RIP to the child that died in such a horrible way. I wish we had much more responsible dog owners.
 

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How is it the dog's fault when a stranger is in its home and perceived to be attacking its family? We know the girls were just playing but to any dog, that cant be understood with a stranger. Its unfortunate what happened to this little girl. Her father was irresponsible for having her around a dog she never socialized with.
Which is why you shouldnt have one
 
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