Another thread about Bill Maher and Richard Dawkins talking about Islam

[alybaba]

Dawkins is fine when it comes to elucidating a scientific path to atheism, but his criticism of religion often leaves much to be desired. I'm regularly embarrassed to be an atheist because of some of the things he says.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Dawkins is one of the most noted atheists out there.

When you have other atheists saying he's an embarrassment.................

Only one worse is Sam Harris.

Neither one of these bigots knows what they're talking about.​

 

[Dr. Sebi Jr.]

Are there any critics of Islam that you guys won't call idiots who don't know what they're talking about?

Spoiler

I'm just playing. All critics of Islam deserve to be fatwa'd.

Hurry up with that free pass for Islam, liberals. Or else.

 

[Thizz Khalifa.]

All facts

They're both right don't see how anyone can deny it

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Dawkins is fine when it comes to elucidating a scientific path to atheism, but his criticism of religion often leaves much to be desired. I'm regularly embarrassed to be an atheist because of some of the things he says.

Its not like religion makes sense, so why get mad at him for speaking beyond that. He's merely a scientist.

 

[the cac mamba]

1. You must be one of those people that think Saudi Arabia is our Vatican City and the Saudi King is our Pope, lol. There's no institutionalized church in Islam. Mecca is the birthplace of Islam, The king of Jordan was the original ruler of Mecca just in 1924, but was defeated by the Saudi Wahhabi's and the British. Mecca is located in Hejaz which is the most liberal and cosmopolitan part of Saudi Arabia. The Saudis are from Najd the birthplace of Wahhabi. They look down on the original people of Hejaz and Mecca because there not conservative enough. There's Muslim countries today that want to remove Mecca from Saudi Arabia because they feel like there destroying the cities heritage with the corruption, construction and stampeded fiasco

2. OK some corrupt Saudis are bringing in sex workers, but those Arabs aren't the authority on Islam. Also human trafficking and sex slavery is not a practice that is only in the Arab middle east, look around the world.

Mapping Sex Trafficking Hubs of Demand

Israel
At the start of the new century, Israel found itself with an unexpected and unwanted reputation – as a destination hotspot for sex trafficking. In 2006, the United Nations named Israel as one of the world’s primary destinations for trafficked women. According to a Parliamentary Inquiry Committee report, between 3,000 and 5,000 women are smuggled into Israel annually where they are sold into the prostitution industry and subjected to continuous violence and abuse. Most of the women are from the former Soviet Union, especially Russia, Moldova, Ukraine, Belarus and Uzbekistan.

Super Bowl & Sporting Events Spur Demand Across North America
From scantily clad cheerleaders to groupies to VIP parties, sex and sports are linked in contemporary society. With no wives or girlfriends in sight, the adrenaline and alcohol fueled fans has the potential to create a concentrated demand for commercial sex. Unfortunately, this demand is sometimes being met by trafficked persons. Some of these victims will be underage — as young as 11 — who have been trafficked into prostitution, as well as other young women who have become ensnared in sexual servitude for a variety of reasons. A case in point: earlier this year in Florida, a number of arrests were made on charges of sex trafficking. In one case a Hawaiian man was caught trafficking an 11 year-old-child. As more cases are uncovered, the correlation between commercial sex trafficking and major sporting events is being documented.

Las Vegas, Nevada & Legalized Prostitution
Contrary to what many people think, prostitution is not legal in Las Vegas but the “What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas” media campaign and attitude has led tourists to believe that they can purchase commercial sex or engage in sex tourism without arrest or punishment. Unfortunately, Las Vegas, often referred to as Sin City, attracts a large number of runaway teens, as well as pimps, and “johns”. With the constant demand for commercial sex, it is no surprise that Las Vegas is considered one of the top ten human trafficking locations in the world.

Mexico
Mexico is a country of origin, transit and destination for trafficking victims. However, a large number of Mexican boys and girls are trafficked within Mexico for the purposes of sexual exploitation. These victims are often lured from poor rural districts to urban and tourist districts. According to a recent report by ECPAT, Mexico has become the major sex tourism destination in the Americas. More than 16,000 children are estimated to be involved in the sex industry in the country’s popular tourist destinations of Acapulco, Cancun, Guadalajara and Tijuana. These cities have become magnets for sex tourists and pedophiles that prey on minors who have been trafficked to these areas.

The Caribbean
Human trafficking is a major issue facing the Caribbean region. For example, in Haiti, an estimated 250,000 children—80% of whom are girls—have been subjected to a system of domestic slavery termed “restavèk” (a Creole word which means to “one who stays with”). As a consequence of the catastrophic earthquake in January, the number of persons who have been left vulnerable to exploitation has increased dramatically. Experts fear that the increase in children alone, whether separated from their families, or new orphans, or restavèks, who are now wandering the streets, will be absorbed by a culture that has looked on child servitude and child slavery as a normal part of life. Effectively, this increase the number of vulnerable children following the earthquake will result in a heightened demand.

Brazil
Brazil has one of the worst child sex trafficking problems in the world. It also has a thriving sex tourism industry, with sex trafficking of Brazilian women occurring in every state and federal district of the country. Foreign tourists from Germany, Italy, and other European states increasingly come to Brazil for sex tourism. The age of consent in Brazil is 18; however, according to UN estimates “2 million young people under the age of 18 have been trafficked into prostitution.”

Germany & the Netherlands: Legalized Commercial Sex Trafficking
Some experts raise concerns that the legalization of prostitution is directly linked to the legitimization of commercial sex trafficking. They argue that the aggregate impact of legalization over the years in countries like Germany, the Netherlands, Australia, and other countries has been to create major hubs of demand for trafficked women and children. As discussed in a report produced by the “Coalition Against Trafficking in Women” (CATW), legalization implicitly supports the view that “men need sex and are entitled to have it even if they have to purchase a woman’s body.” CATW makes the argument that as a consequence of legalization, commercial sexual exploitation is normalized, and demand is increased. Although there has not yet been an evidence-based research to verify this hypothesis, a growing number of countries, including Sweden, Norway, Finland, Iceland, and the United States, are changing their laws to reflect concerns about legalization.

South African 2010 World Cup
The World Cup, an international sporting event, attracts millions of spectators every four years. Events of this magnitude, where there is an influx of predominantly male fans, act as a magnet for commercial sex traffickers. In South Africa during the world Cup (June 11 – July 11, 2010), traffickers brought in thousands of young women and girls to meet the inevitable surge in demand generated by over 2.4 million sports fans. Experts estimate that 40,000 women and children were transported into South Africa for purposes of commercial sexual exploitation, making South Africa a clear hub for demand.

Brothels of India
Women and girls are trafficked both within India and into India from Nepal and Bangladesh and other neighboring countries. Huge red light districts holding thousands of women and children operate brothels offering girls as young as 9 and 10 for sale. Kamathipura in Mumbai, Sonagachi in Calcutta, Reshampura in Gwalior and Budhwar Peth in Pune all hold thousands of women, many of them in virtual captivity. Human Rights Watch estimates that over 15 million young women are trapped in prostitution. In Mumbai alone, over 100,000 are estimated to be in prostitution. Young women can live their whole lives in these brothels, have children (usually the offspring of their customers), and die there, often at an early age from HIV/AIDS and other diseases. Intergenerational exploitation is common.

Sri Lanka: Beach Boy Sex Tourism
One of the main industries in Sri Lanka is tourism. Over half a million tourists arrive in Sri Lanka for the great climate, the beautiful countryside, and the beaches. However, there is an underbelly to this legitimate tourist industry: Sri Lanka has become a virtual haven for men seeking children to exploit for sex. Over two decades, the island developed a reputation for hosting European men interested in young boys. It is estimated there are over 5000 children trapped in prostitution in Sri Lanka today, most of them boys in the 7 to 16 age group.

Cambodia: Pedophile Haven?
The Cambodian economy relies heavily on the tourist industry. This lush tropical land with its beautiful beaches and ancient temples attracts many vacationers. Tourism is good and legitimate tourism needs to be encouraged. Unfortunately, there is dark underbelly which has flourished over the last twenty years: child sex tourism. Cambodia has come to be known for its thriving sex industry, where child sexual exploitation runs rife, and authorities are easily bribed to look the other way; thus, predators and child traffickers alike act with impunity.

China’s One Child Policy: The Next Tsunami of Demand
China’s one child policy has created severe gender imbalances where boys outnumber girls by a significant margin. Because of a long-standing preference for sons, parents have actively engaged in gender based selective abortions/feticide, abandonment, and infanticide. Consequently, many millions of girls are missing and experts estimate that in this generation alone, over 37 million men will not find partners. Experts fear that this will generate a demand for trafficked women and girls — demand that will be met from countries like North Korea, Vietnam, Myanmar, Mongolia, Thailand and elsewhere. In some provinces in China, reports are already surfacing of young women and girls bought and sold multiple times, shared by many men in one village, and subjected to sexual exploitation, labor exploitation, and domestic servitude (sometimes a combination of all three).

Catholic Church
Don't let me even get started on this

 

[plushcarpet]

Bill Maher is full of shyt, he is always talking about political correctness when it comes to Islam, but he knows that it is open season to talk bad about Muslims in America a minority group and he can get away with it. If he used he's HBO platform to talk about radical Jews firebombing a Palestinian home and killing a baby, he's show will be cancelled so fast and he knows it.

Also every-time he brings up Islam, he talks about the oppression of women and they don't let women drive in Saudi Arabia, don't he know that the British put the Saudi Wahhabi's in power. Does he even know about the number of Muslim women who were political leaders, Presidents and Prime Minsters in majority Muslim countries. Six Muslim countries has elected female leaders why before United States, Italy, France, Germany, Russia or U.K. How liberal is that.

Khaleda Zia Prime Minister of Bangladesh

Benazir Bhutto Prime Minister of Pakistan

Megawati Sukarnoputri President of Indonesia

Sheikh Hasina Prime Minister of Bangladesh

Atifete Jahjaga President of Kosovo

Amra Babic Mayor of City in Bosnia, Europe only Hijab wearing Mayor

Tansu Çiller Prime Minister of Turkey

Mame Madior Boye Prime Minister of Senegal

Aminata Touré Prime Minister’s seat of Senegal

Cissé Mariam Kaïdama Sidibé Prime Minister of Mali

Ameenah Gurib-Fakim President of Mauritius

you're using the same logic as "well Obama is president so black people have no more issues in the USA"

 

[tstone]

you're using the same logic as "well Obama is president so black people have no more issues in the USA"

1. Obama did not run on a black agenda, Obama raised the most money in History as a candidate, his backed by Wall Street big business. What has he done specifically for Blacks, White Supremacy in 2015 is about holding on to economic power, they don't care if blacks hold public office, because the masses won't benefit. Islamic extremists don't want women to have any leadership or education over a man, so to elect one that promotes that as President defeats there whole agenda.

2. Bill Maher and Dawkins is saying that Islam as an institution oppress women and not taken into account the culture of the people. The women that I listed our from non-Arab muslim countries and 90% of the world's muslims are non-Arabs, so don't bring up women can't drive in Saudi Arabia as all of islam when it is a culture thing, just like Pakistani men don't marry 4 wives even though it's permissible in islam, you have to look at the culture.

 

[alybaba]

1. Obama did not run on a black agenda, Obama raised the most money in History as a candidate, his backed by Wall Street big business. What has he done specifically for Blacks, White Supremacy in 2015 is about holding on to economic power, they don't care if blacks hold public office, because the masses won't benefit. Islamic extremists don't want women to have any leadership or education over a man, so to elect one that promotes that as President defeats there whole agenda.

2. Bill Maher and Dawkins is saying that Islam as an institution oppress women and not taken into account the culture of the people. The women that I listed our from non-Arab muslim countries and 90% of the world's muslims are non-Arabs, so don't bring up women can't drive in Saudi Arabia as all of islam when it is a culture thing, just like Pakistani men don't marry 4 wives even though it's permissible in islam, you have to look at the culture.

Meh, the first 4 are from political dynasties, they're only in power because of who their father or husband's were. The next 3 are from very secular societies where the population happens to be Muslim. Boye and Toure were PM, which is not a head of state p position with real power under the French inspired systems.

 

[tstone]

Meh, the first 4 are from political dynasties, they're only in power because of who their father or husband's were. The next 3 are from very secular societies where the population happens to be Muslim. Boye and Toure were PM, which is not a head of state p position with real power under the French inspired systems.

the first 4 are from political dynasties, they're only in power because of who their father or husband's were.
They still got into office in a democratic system. We're about to elect our First female president Hillary Clinton who's husband was president, It's going to be talked about in history books as women empowerment and a new age in the world

The next 3 are from very secular societies where the population happens to be Muslim.
There's a big difference between atheism and secular. The vast majority of muslims in the world live under secular governments, but the mosques are still pact. Doesn't that just prove that islam and democracy is compatible.

Boye and Toure were PM, which is not a head of state p position with real power under the French inspired systems.
It's the head of government, they get to pick the cabinet, it's more powerful then our Vice President if you compare.

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

Bill will take his shadah..

 

[TNC]

There are crazy Muslims... There are sane and good Muslims


There are crazy Christians.... There are sane and good Christians



I don't feel the actions of some of the members of one group define them all as a whole and if you want to attack some of the crazier widespread ideas of Islam, are you prepared to do the same to Christianity as well? If not, aren't you really just playing favorites?

 

[Farrinto]

Leftists (especially in the US) are quick to criticize Christianity and generalize Christians but hit the when it comes to doing the same with Islam. Both religions are fake but if you're going to go hard at one, do it to the other.

 

[Master Teacher]

"the hell with their culture"

sums up white arrogance in its finest and why you can't take so called "liberals" serious

This video clips said a bunch of nothing, and Bill Maher is the dumbest motherfukka on TV who thinks he's smart who wants to offend people under guise of telling jokes because he's not a real comedian, so he has to rely on shock value

comparing islamic garb to a bee keepers suit is just another sign ignorance

 

[AJaRuleStan]

Leftists (especially in the US) are quick to criticize Christianity and generalize Christians but hit the when it comes to doing the same with Islam. Both religions are fake but if you're going to go hard at one, do it to the other.

The people on the left want to feel good about themselves, so it doesn't make sense for them to attack Islam to the same degree as Christianity, because Islam doesn't represent white, western culture. They want a boost to their self image and they get that by caping for ppl who they view as less fortunate.