Anthony Davis is already better than Dwight Howard

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Honestly, this is what I don't get about strength and conditioning with respect to the NBA

Anthony Davis is 6'10 220 (jeez he's skinny)
Lebron James is 6'8 250 (and they probably pushed his weight down)

bron is faster, stronger, more agile…if he had a post game, he'd rock davis under the basket and yam on him

but we're scared if davis gains "a little" more weight?

something doesn't add up. help me out breh

Im not sure that Im understanding what youre saying exactly, but I said he should gain a bit more weight...me saying that him gaining too much weight and have that being a negative (even if its muscle) is in regards to him possibly just not quite having the same advantages he has had playing basketball thus far and perhaps not adjusting as well as expected to the change. Some people put on weight or lose weight and change their game a bit and it takes a while for them to adjust, and sometimes, even if they adjust, they arent as effective as what they were...but it could make him have a longer career.Then again, it could make him better. Time will tell.

Every player is different and their styles are different and subtle physical changes can impact players at varying levels based on their tendencies.

Kendrick Perkins for example, lost a lot of weight from his HS days to his prime as a Celtic and got more effective..then he lost even more weight in OKC and became far less effective (in addition to not fitting in with the team).

In the case of LeBron, honestly, him being so big and fast at the same time is a borderline or outright anomaly. He's either a freak of nature or has been on that HGH grind.
 
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Honestly, this is what I don't get about strength and conditioning with respect to the NBA

Anthony Davis is 6'10 220 (jeez he's skinny)
Lebron James is 6'8 250 (and they probably pushed his weight down)

bron is faster, stronger, more agile…if he had a post game, he'd rock davis under the basket and yam on him

but we're scared if davis gains "a little" more weight?

something doesn't add up. help me out breh
Breh where did you see Bron's name anywhere in that post? :dahell:

Bottom line is, AD is averaging like 23 and 11 through 6 games in his sophmore season, with room to improve. Picking Lebron, the biggest physical anomaly in the athletic world today as a comparison does nothing to discredit that unibrow is putting in work down in NOLA.
 

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Im not sure that Im understanding what youre saying exactly, but I said he should gain a bit more weight...me saying that him gaining too much weight and have that being a negative (even if its muscle) is in regards to him possibly just not quite having the same advantages he has had playing basketball thus far and perhaps not adjusting as well as expected to the change. Some people put on weight or lose weight and change their game a bit and it takes a while for them to adjust, and sometimes, even if they adjust, they arent as effective as what they were...but it could make him have a longer career.Then again, it could make him better. Time will tell.

Every player is different and their styles are different and subtle physical changes can impact players at varying levels based on their tendencies.

Kendrick Perkins for example, lost a lot of weight from his HS days to his prime as a Celtic and got more effective..then he lost even more weight in OKC and became far less effective (in addition to not fitting in with the team).

In the case of LeBron, honestly, him being so big and fast at the same time is a borderline or outright anomaly. He's either a freak of nature or has been on that HGH grind.

but thats what I'm asking

This goes to most ball players in general

there is currently a guy in the league, that outweighs one of the young premiere PFs by 30 pounds. Personally I don't believe Lebron is on HGH. But I'm trying to understand why we think a player of his Davis' stature would be less affective with more weight. Is that because of the physics of the game, or do we need to focus on the strength and conditioning element of the nba in general.
 

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Breh where did you see Bron's name anywhere in that post? :dahell:

Bottom line is, AD is averaging like 23 and 11 through 6 games in his sophmore season, with room to improve. Picking Lebron, the biggest physical anomaly in the athletic world today as a comparison does nothing to discredit that unibrow is putting in work down in NOLA.

who was discrediting him

I was asking a question. nikka.

and my question simply was, davis is now 220, by comparison megatron is 6'5 and 238 (and stronger, faster, more agile)….are we afraid that the added weight is going slow down his game? or are we afraid that the added weight plus the wear and tear of playing the game will effect his knees? or are we afraid the added weight will cause him to alter his shot

simple simple questions…that go for ALL players that we feel need to "put on weight"
 

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This kid could be a young Tin Duncan.

I pray for young brehs health.

stylistically he's nothing like tim duncan. if you're gonna do that, kg is a much more apt comparison.

whatever the case, i think almost everybody knew he'd be a beast. honestly, i'm not surprised he's doing so well. minutes and health were the main things holding him down last year...now he's got both of those going for him, plus some experience...and now he's doing work. :whew:
 

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but thats what I'm asking

This goes to most ball players in general

there is currently a guy in the league, that outweighs one of the young premiere PFs by 30 pounds. Personally I don't believe Lebron is on HGH. But I'm trying to understand why we think a player of his Davis' stature would be less affective with more weight. Is that because of the physics of the game, or do we need to focus on the strength and conditioning element of the nba in general.

Its both.

Would KG be as or more effective if he had gained 20/30 pounds in his prime? Or would his first step and ability to rotate on D and have versatility in man defense be more negatively impacted than the benefits received from gaining that weight?

Depends on his training. If he was able to gain the weight and do enough speed and agility drills to keep the previous advantages, then he would be better. If he lost explosiveness and his other advantages over his contemporaries that allowed him to be so successful then he wouldn't. Sometimes when dudes put on muscle, they end up focusing so much on that aspect of it that they neglect the other things a bit. In modern times, it probably happens less as more strength and conditioning plans are more comprehensive...but, again, it all depends on the player, his trainer, his regimen, his on court training and his usage in the system he is in.
 
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who was discrediting him

I was asking a question. nikka.

and my question simply was, davis is now 220, by comparison megatron is 6'5 and 238 (and stronger, faster, more agile)….are we afraid that the added weight is going slow down his game? or are we afraid that the added weight plus the wear and tear of playing the game will effect his knees? or are we afraid the added weight will cause him to alter his shot

simple simple questions…that go for ALL players that we feel need to "put on weight"
Much apologies friend, thought you were slighting my dude AD, you know how demonically vitriolic the coli can get these days.

To address your question, as a stretch 4 who sets himself apart with his athleticism, it's entirely about a loss of quickness and mobility. The dudes you're bringing up are the exception, not the rule. The jury's still out on how much he's improved since last season, but the difference in the numbers Davis would be able to put up whether at 220 or 235, imo, is marginal at best.
 

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He's been incredible this year. I didn't think he'd be nearly this good in the pros. I was dead wrong about him.
 

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It's crazy how all the college/NBA analysts were right about him. I thought it was all Kentucky hype, but he's proven to be a legit franchise player and not some stupid shot blocking "brow" gimmick they tried to package him as.
 

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It's crazy how all the college/NBA analysts were right about him. I thought it was all Kentucky hype, but he's proven to be a legit franchise player and not some stupid shot blocking "brow" gimmick they tried to package him as.
Brow is just marketing. If yoh watched his whole college aeason you saw insane progression. Dude couldnt hit jumpers until the tourney and he developed the hook shot
 
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