Kobe came into the league asa 17 year old. You expected him to win titles as a teenager?
That's a more acceptable answer. However, in 2014-15 when Lebron was back in Cleveland, Wade averaged only 21.5 ppg, 5, and 3 on 53% TS and Bosh put up 21, 7 and 2 on 53% TS. The previous year with Lebron, Wade put up 19, 5, and 4 on 59% TS and Bosh 16, 6 and 1 on 60% TS while making their 4th straight finals. Why couldn't they get in their natural roles effectively and build rhythm with LeBron gone?
Not an argument.
The LeBron haters/Kobe Stans don't want to admit that the "Superstars" they are propping up to downgrade LeBron have never done anything without LeBron. They are all career losers with the exception of Wade. Bosh is not a superstar. Kyrie is not a superstar. Stop treating them like one when we've seen enough of their career to know that they aren't winning players.That's a more acceptable answer. However, in 2014-15 when Lebron was back in Cleveland, Wade averaged only 21.5 ppg, 5, and 3 on 53% TS and Bosh put up 21, 7 and 2 on 53% TS. The previous year with Lebron, Wade put up 19, 5, and 4 on 59% TS and Bosh 16, 6 and 1 on 60% TS while making their 4th straight finals. Why couldn't they get in their natural roles effectively and build rhythm with LeBron gone?
Not to mention they only went 13-15 in games played together despite making 4 straight finals with Lebron. It seems they lost a bit of counting stats but gained way better efficiency and winning percentages with Lebron. Hell, the next year before Bosh retired with blood clots they were only 27-23 together. Far cry from what they were when Lebron played with them. So I guess he didn't make them worse.
As far as Love goes, why can't he get in rhythm since Lebron has left Cleveland? He hasn't made a single all-star game since or played in a playoff game without Lebron. Irving had his best moments with Lebron. I already touched on Anthony Davis.
The fact is these guys won WAY more with Lebron, than without him. The little bump in their ppg without him isn't better than the greater efficiency and winning they have done with him.
That's a more acceptable answer. However, in 2014-15 when Lebron was back in Cleveland, Wade averaged only 21.5 ppg, 5, and 3 on 53% TS and Bosh put up 21, 7 and 2 on 53% TS. The previous year with Lebron, Wade put up 19, 5, and 4 on 59% TS and Bosh 16, 6 and 1 on 60% TS while making their 4th straight finals. Why couldn't they get in their natural roles effectively and build rhythm with LeBron gone?
Ray Allen was 40 years old
Kobe and Shaq 3-peated as soon as Kobe became a superstar at 21 years old. The only reason they didn't win more is because they clashed personally. And also 2 dominant players ain't the same as 3. After Kobe and Shaq the rest of the team were role players. They didn't have the likes of a Chris Bosh and Ray Allen to lean on in crucial moments.
the Lakers had plenty of better role players. Kobe was 25 when he single-handedly lost the series against the Pistons, the same age Bron was when he lost to the Mavs. Kobe was 24 when he lost to Duncan with prime Shaq on his squad.You posted a bunch of dumb shyt that didn't warrant an argument
Who isn't a career loser without good teammates? That's like saying MJ is a career loser without Pippen, or Kobe is a career loser without Shaq or Gasol, or Shaq is a career loser without Kobe or Wade.
