Answer the question nikka and stop deflecting …it shouldn’t be that hard for a competent person to do
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Rakim Allah
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Real quick: remind me where was Kobe in the 2012 playoffs?
Again, atrocious reading comprehension skills: Go back and read my original response to you, ma’am.
Rakim Allah
Superstar
Man, sadly a lot of you seemed to have failed remedial English.Answer the question nikka and stop deflecting …it shouldn’t be that hard for a competent person to do
Again, 3 > 1 and 2 > 0, friend.
CourtesyFlush
Superstar
Weird cause he's putting up 44 points, 55 points WITH lebron
Again, atrocious reading comprehension skills: Go back and read my original response to you, ma’am.
You nikkas are so stupid, you don't even realize when YOUR OWN LOGIC is being employed against you
Let me walk you through this:
You brought up the 2009 playoffs, in which Kobe's *Team* beat the Magic in the Finals, a team LeBron's *Team* failed to beat.
So, I asked you about the 2012 playoffs, in which LeBron's *Team* beat the Thunder, a team Kobe's *Team* failed to beat.
The Thunder wiped the floor with Kobe's Lakers, blowing them out by 30 in game 1, and blowing them out again by 16 in game 5, ousting them in FIVE GAMES.
LeBron's Heat lost game 1, then beat the Thunder FOUR STRAIGHT GAMES to win the title.
The Thunder did Kobe so dirty, he never made the playoffs again.
Do you understand now, or should I continue holding your hand like a disabled child trying to cross the street during rush hour?
Man’s typing a bunch of gibberish instead of competently answering a simple question
going out sad
Dwight Howard
Superstar
Chill I'm at work I'll address this when I'm offWhat, no sassy comeback @Dwight Howard ?
That 16-6 record vs Kobe head to head shut you up that easily?
Damn, I should have pulled that sooner
There's nothing to address, dumbass--
LeBron has Kobe beat in
- Head to Head matchups (16-6 in favor of LeBron)
- The numbers in those matchups (LeBron 28/7/7 on 47% vs Kobe 25/5/5 on 43% shooting)
- Overall Career Numbers (LeBron 27/8/7 on 51% shooting vs Kobe 25/5/5 on 45% shooting)
- Playoff numbers (LeBron 29/9/7 on 50% shooting vs Kobe 26/5/5 on 45% shooting)
- Mid Range Scoring (LeBron 55% / 74% / 42% vs Kobe 48% / 64% / 44%)
- 3 Point Shooting (LeBron 35% vs Kobe 33%)
- 3 Pointers MADE (LeBron 2,179 vs Kobe 1,827)
- Career Points at their 20th seasons (LeBron 37,480 and counting vs Kobe 33,643)
- Playoff WINS (LeBron 174 games vs Kobe 135 games)
- Playoff POINTS (LeBron 7,631 and counting vs Kobe 5,640)
- MVPs (LeBron 4 vs Kobe 1)
- Finals MVPs (LeBron 4 vs Kobe 2)
Kobe does literally nothing better than LeBron outside of shooting free throws (which is an inexplicable weakness of Bron's game, given how often he used to get to the line early in his career).
LeBron James is better at basketball than Kobe Bryant.
He has surpassed Kobe in every possible metric that you can measure in the game, and in his 20th season, is making 20th season Kobe look like a scrub.
The ONLY thing you fukking morons can ever bring up is championships, AND EVEN THEN, LEBRON IS ONE TITLE BEHIND KOBE.
Kobe had the benefit of playing for the GOAT franchise, with arguably the greatest coach ever, and arguably the most dominant peak player ever for three titles.
Nobody worth talking to suggests Kobe wasn't important to those three-peat teams, but the first title, Kobe was practically a ride-along, with Shaq dominating, and winning all three Finals MVPs, and rightfully so, because he was our best player, periodddddddd.
LeBron has NEVER been the second best player on a championship winning team. He's played with Wade, Bosh, Kyrie, Love and Prime AD, and he has NEVER been the second best player on any of those teams.
If you argue that 20th season, 38-year-old Bron is the second best on THIS Laker team in 2022-2023, cool-- Kobe was the second best player on the Lakers until Shaq left, and they played EIGHT SEASONS.
Fukk outta here
Rakim Allah
Superstar
The fact you keep talking about post 2011 and deflecting from your OG retort that Bron was the better player during the mid-late 2000s proves that you don’t actually believe Bron was the better player during that period, ma’am.You nikkas are so stupid, you don't even realize when YOUR OWN LOGIC is being employed against you
Let me walk you through this:
You brought up the 2009 playoffs, in which Kobe's *Team* beat the Magic in the Finals, a team LeBron's *Team* failed to beat.
So, I asked you about the 2012 playoffs, in which LeBron's *Team* beat the Thunder, a team Kobe's *Team* failed to beat.
The Thunder wiped the floor with Kobe's Lakers, blowing them out by 30 in game 1, and blowing them out again by 16 in game 5, ousting them in FIVE GAMES.
LeBron's Heat lost game 1, then beat the Thunder FOUR STRAIGHT GAMES to win the title.
The Thunder did Kobe so dirty, he never made the playoffs again.
Do you understand now, or should I continue holding your hand like a disabled child trying to cross the street during rush hour?
Lose to Dwight Howard as the #1 seed, Hall Fame bound brehs.
Rakim Allah
Superstar
In Stanish layman’s terms…Man’s typing a bunch of gibberish instead of competently answering a simple question
“I can’t comprehend basic English and simple math so I’ll just emotionally babble to make up for my deficiencies.”
Hopefully you sacrifice all these hours on this site for night school to finally get your GED, friend.
Couple things
- I'm not deflecting. I'm showing the flaw in your logic. You are arguing that because Kobe's TEAM beat another team that LeBron's TEAM couldn't, that makes KOBE the better player. So, I showed you a team that Kobe's team couldn't that LeBron's did.
- It would be a waste of time to even show you the numbers that support my original argument. Watch:
LeBron 2007-2008 season:
30/8/7 on 48% shooting
Led the league in scoring
Kobe 2007-2008 season:
28/5/6 on 47% shooting
Clearly, you see who is the better player here.
But watch you disregard these players' individual accolades to talk about what the TEAMS did, and in that case, YOU LOSE AGAIN:
Lakers played the Cavs 4 times in 2007-08, and KOBE'S LAKERS LOST EVERY SINGLE TIME
Lakers 90-99 Cavaliers (Feb 10, 2007) | StatMuse
The Cleveland Cavaliers emerged victorious over the Los Angeles Lakers, 99 to 90, on February 11, 2007.
Cavaliers 114-108 Lakers (Feb 14, 2007) | StatMuse
The Los Angeles Lakers fell to the Cleveland Cavaliers, 114 to 108, on February 15, 2007.
Lakers 90-94 Cavaliers (Dec 19, 2007) | StatMuse
The Cleveland Cavaliers squeaked out a win over the Los Angeles Lakers, 94 to 90, on December 20, 2007.
Cavaliers 98-95 Lakers (Jan 26, 2008) | StatMuse
The Los Angeles Lakers couldn't pull it off against the Cleveland Cavaliers, 98 to 95, on January 27, 2008.
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Rakim Allah
Superstar
We all saw one player who took his top team to 3 finals and 2 ships white the other took his top team to 1 finals and 0 ships during that period. Best players win especially those who have the #1 seeds. Like I said previously. Bron became the best player after he lost in 2011. Dirk was the best player that year, friend.
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Bron Stans took it personally
That’s how I can tell y’all pressed. Davis turnaround happened once Bron went down. Roles have now been reversed.
That’s how I can tell y’all pressed. Davis turnaround happened once Bron went down. Roles have now been reversed.
Exactly what I said you would do:
Kobe stans are nothing if not absolutely predictable.
Rakim Allah
Superstar
We all saw one player who took his top team to 3 finals and 2 ships white the other took his top team to 1 finals and 0 ships during that period. Best players win especially those who have the #1 seeds. Like I said previously. Bron became the best player after he lost in 2011. Dirk was the best player that year, friend.
You keep bringing up regular season games while Bron lost to Dwight with #1 seed in the PLAYOFFS.Couple things
- I'm not deflecting. I'm showing the flaw in your logic. You are arguing that because Kobe's TEAM beat another team that LeBron's TEAM couldn't, that makes KOBE the better player. So, I showed you a team that Kobe's team couldn't that LeBron's did.
- It would be a waste of time to even show you the numbers that support my original argument. Watch:
LeBron 2007-2008 season:
30/8/7 on 48% shooting
Led the league in scoring
Kobe 2007-2008 season:
28/5/6 on 47% shooting
Clearly, you see who is the better player here.
But watch you disregard these players' individual accolades to talk about what the TEAMS did, and in that case, YOU LOSE AGAIN:
Lakers played the Cavs 4 times in 2007-08, and KOBE'S LAKERS LOST EVERY SINGLE TIME
Lakers 90-99 Cavaliers (Feb 10, 2007) | StatMuse
The Cleveland Cavaliers emerged victorious over the Los Angeles Lakers, 99 to 90, on February 11, 2007.www.statmuse.com
Cavaliers 114-108 Lakers (Feb 14, 2007) | StatMuse
The Los Angeles Lakers fell to the Cleveland Cavaliers, 114 to 108, on February 15, 2007.
Lakers 90-94 Cavaliers (Dec 19, 2007) | StatMuse
The Cleveland Cavaliers squeaked out a win over the Los Angeles Lakers, 94 to 90, on December 20, 2007.
Cavaliers 98-95 Lakers (Jan 26, 2008) | StatMuse
The Los Angeles Lakers couldn't pull it off against the Cleveland Cavaliers, 98 to 95, on January 27, 2008.
Hold this L