the whitehouse is choosing not to follow the advice of the articles posted
democracy
It's a Republic not a Democracy...you don't need math to know that.
Anti-quarantine astroturfing campaign
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It's a Republic not a Democracy...you don't need math to know that.
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semantics
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did you just respond to my post about deflecting with semantics...
with another deflection on semantics?
David_TheMan
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A lockdown isn't a last ditch effort to do anything medically beneficial, so your conclusion makes no sense whatsoever.I agree with both of those articles...
the main point being that greater testing and access to care would mitigate the virus much more effectively than a lockdown...
The problem is we dont have plans or federal support for either...
so lockdown is just a last ditch effort
It isn't the federal government's job to have centralized medicine, it should be the market of options, not any government, it moves quicker.
1. the whole point of the federal government is having a centralized system...
that's its core function
2. if the free market moves quicker.... why isnt it moving quicker?
3. the articles posted recognized the benefits and faults of the lockdown... why are you only focused on the faults?
4. isnt it the governments job to step in when the free market fails....?
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1-star + neg for #bro-babble.
Dynamite James
The Main attraction
People and cacs are idiots
David_TheMan
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LOL, nothing you said is complex in the slightest.
I literally presented you information and the opinions of epidemiologist , you know the field we are discussing, who said the lockdown is inefficient and not needed at all and has more negative effect in pushing distrust of the profession and government, than expanding treatment and being more concerned with healthcare.
R-naught doesn't come down to zero kid, you need to understand what the value is in relation to a disease.
This disease has a r-naught of 1.5 - 3.5 according to studies from the diamond princess cruise, they estimate around 2.28.
SARS had a r naught of 3 to 5, was demonstrably more deadlier when contracted, and had less media fear mongering, and was able to be treated with no quarantine or national lockdowns.
To even think that I consider Bush Jr better than Trump is terrible to think about. Cause he was bad...but this dude Trump is the devil incarnate.
But even GW called out Trump as a racist. Same with Mitt Romney. Romney was one of the few Republicans that voted to impeach Trump. When you got Republicans from the Bush era goingat the shyt this guy is doing you we are in a bad spot as a country and a society.
Why are the most ignorant people in here, have the loudest voices?
David_TheMan
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No the whole point of the US federal government is actually written in the US constitution, the US was never designed to be a highly centralized top ruled nation. That isn't its core function.
2. The free market hasn't been allowed to move quickly in the US, there is a reason people are requesting the government to remove drug restrictions, testing restrictions, and people have been pointing out the medical bottlenecks created by the FDA and CDC.
3. Ther articles posted recognized no benefits of the lockdown, hell they literally ascribe no medical benefits to it, and both say that quarantines have failed.
4. The purpose of the government is to resolve disputes between states, resolve disputes on the lower levels between citizens, while respecting those citizens property rights, freedom of association, right to unrestricted speech, and etc...
If the market is failing, those who are failing will be driven out and their is a natural profit incentive to meet that unfulfilled need.
If the claim is that the state, can do that, all you have to do is look at the US government's need to protect big pharma, to see that looking to it is ridiculous as trusting a wolf to guard the hen house.
David_TheMan
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When you don't have the ability to adequately express yourself, you think imaginary things like stars and negs mean something.
so you're saying the government has too many restrictions on big pharma....
while also pointing out that big pharma is being helped by the government....
which is it?
Kyle C. Barker
Migos VERZUZ Mahalia Jackson
Just got done watching the Jordan thing so I've only been able to read a couple of the pages of the first paper and they seem to be in favor of social distancing which is certainly a huge element of the quarantine. Saying that a quarantine must be guided by science is one thing (pg 5 of the first link) and saying that it is completely ineffective as you posited is another.
Given how effective this virus spreads I would have to come to the conclusion that the social distancing aspect of the quarantine is indeed guided by science.
Edit:. It's a short read. It actually aligns with everything Fauci has been saying.