My boy who's an EE works in Florida for a defense contractor
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My boy who's an EE works in Florida for a defense contractor
SuaveyBoi115
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The hustle is realLove reading young people making above 100ki aint an engineer but im studying computer science so i cant wait to join the club hopefully
iamstr8fire
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My job was offering 10K a year for up to 5 years for a MBA or Science/Engineering degree...I was leaning more towards Engineering. Moreso systems or electrical....any suggestions for good online programs?
What do you ultimately want to do? The degree aint really worth the paper its printed on if you're just getting it for the sake of it.
DirtyMoney
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Man you better aim for $150k-$180k cos $100k gross aint $100k after tax.Love reading young people making above 100k
Yep especially in melbourne......
Northrop Grumman hiring like it is going out of style.
UpAndComing
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Actuarial Science >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Yep especially in melbourne......
Northrop Grumman hiring like it is going out of style.
Funny, he used to work for Harris out there. He now lives out in Stuart/West Palm after leaving Harris and did a 5 year stint at Raytheon
thenatural
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Really good thread. A ton of advice to take in. Personally, I have an MS in EE and I work at a fairly large corporation. Basically I am a drop of a water in the sea. I'm thinking about doing the MBA route or an advanced degree in data analytics. The ceiling is real. A few of the guys I work with had to relocate to a different area and take a pay cut because of the ageism in the profession. I'm talking between 20-50 years plus.
@Rekkapryde good looking out homie
I'm a Computer Engineer with a MBA in global business.
The MBA is a powerful combination with an engineering background. If you remove the specialty from the engineer degree, it's really all about the way you think and approach problem solving or putting things together. The MBA gives you many business related functions to apply that knowledge.
From marketing, business strategy (my favorite), finance, or operations, that engineering backgrounds makes you a dangerous and well rounded candidate for a variety of positions.
It also opens you up to many leadership positions. Someone said it earlier, older expensive engineers are like 30 year old RBs.
My opinion, get the MBA. Check into how long you have to stay after they pay for it. 2 years is normal. You may want to try to negotiate a raise when you finish since they are locking you into additional years and kinda capping your financial mobility. If you job has one of those rotational leadership programs, JUMP on that during your MBA.
That's where I messed up. I was offered that program twice and turned it down because the $$$ in sales was too good. That was a mistake. I would have been in leadership 5-7 years ago vs just getting there.
Sorry so long. Good luck breh.
I'm a Computer Engineer with a MBA in global business.
The MBA is a powerful combination with an engineering background. If you remove the specialty from the engineer degree, it's really all about the way you think and approach problem solving or putting things together. The MBA gives you many business related functions to apply that knowledge.
From marketing, business strategy (my favorite), finance, or operations, that engineering backgrounds makes you a dangerous and well rounded candidate for a variety of positions.
It also opens you up to many leadership positions. Someone said it earlier, older expensive engineers are like 30 year old RBs.
My opinion, get the MBA. Check into how long you have to stay after they pay for it. 2 years is normal. You may want to try to negotiate a raise when you finish since they are locking you into additional years and kinda capping your financial mobility. If you job has one of those rotational leadership programs, JUMP on that during your MBA.
That's where I messed up. I was offered that program twice and turned it down because the $$$ in sales was too good. That was a mistake. I would have been in leadership 5-7 years ago vs just getting there.
Sorry so long. Good luck breh.
People think the ageism is a joke.
The earlier you hit that $100K threshold, the more expensive you get to companies over the long run.
Let's say you hit $100K at 30. Assuming a 3% annual increase to keep pace with inflation, you're already approaching $120K/yr by your mid-30s.
By 40, you're even more expensive to the company.
Unless you are a superstar who brings unique technical value to the company and contributes significantly to the bottom line, they'd rather pay two new college grads the equivalent of your salary and ramp them up pretty quickly.
Yeah it depends on the field and location. For example lets say you are a system or software engineer in DoD with a clearance. Making 100k plus is nothing and yes there is ageism. But in DoD saving money is the key and they do not train.
Trust a system engineer with 20 years exp and a secret or top secret making 100k plus is going to get hired before a young engineer with no DoD exp and no clearance.
Why is that? Well because the DoD contractor don't want to pay 50k to 100k to get the young engineer a secret or top secret clearance. Not to mention right now it takes a person to get a top secret 1 to 2 years. A secret clearance 6 months to a year. That means you hire a young engineer without those clearances they often times can't touch the program until they get that clearance. DoD contractors also don't spend money on training and need folks who can hit the ground running. Experience on said weapons systems or business systems are priority one.
So yes in commecial world that ageism is big but in DoD that clearance, being a minorty (which they can't get contracts without minorities) and exp trump the ageism.
I know too many old kats sitting around making 120k to 180k and these DoD companies can't get rid of them cause no one can do what they can do or have a clearance.
You got old engineers who are hired guns out here making 200k cause they can program Fortran which is needed in DoD for these missles. So trust it is all about that field, locations and engineering background.
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If he has a linkedin account and still has his clearance active I am sure Northrop Grumman has hit him up this year.
They have thousands of slots they need to fill ASAP since they won that 50 to 100 Billion dollar Bomber contract.
Also wanted to say that a lot of folks don't know that once an engineer hits principle levels they often make as much or more than many managers (along with getting the same bonus levels as managers).
The problem is some fields like IE, ME don't have many principle engineer slots. But systems, cyber security, software engineer positions have more principle slots.
The problem is some fields like IE, ME don't have many principle engineer slots. But systems, cyber security, software engineer positions have more principle slots.
Absolutely, I finessed my way to the 6 figure club that way. Being in demand
School Pays!!!
I always tell kats you better jump, jump, jump like Kriss Kross if you want to bump up your pay.
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