Any Hebrew Isrealite Brehs On Here? I Have A Question....

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I gave you Deu 23:8 to help answer questions like yours, concerning ones father's paternal lineage...something no Israelite seemed to offer you. Instead of trying to understand the biblical scriptures, you responded like a Gentile.

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But I thought it was based off the father then? Now it’s my father’s mother now?

Interesting.
 

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Im not black supposedly but dude above me just said I was black make y’all minds up:laff:

I’m asking you and you won’t answer. But I know and you know you not black breh. Israel and their way of life has nothing to do with you so why not keep it moving?



Like I said when the real come around you can’t hang. So you go mess with the low hanging fruit brothas that are on the corner.

-Ducked from the first people in every land being black so the only ones who can be called “the people of the land mass Europe” are the first ones there
-Ducked ancient “Nigerians” not calling themselves Nigerians or Africans
-Ducked the slave trade of BLACK INDIGENOUS AMERICANS that began with Columbus

And most importantly you ducked answering if you’re black twice. Deep down you know you not. Since your arms aren’t long enough to box just keep it moving. You can’t do me like you do the guys playing costume dress up on the corner
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I gave you Deu 23:8 to help answer questions like yours, concerning ones father's paternal lineage...something no Israelite seemed to offer you. Instead of trying to understand the biblical scriptures, you responded like a Gentile.

Bruh stop giving him that :scust:

Go read Ezra 9 about mixed breed marriages and the children that come from
 

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If you think Israel is a spiritual term, then you're the one who's confused.

:ooh:

has @MMS met his match in these forums :steviej:
Anyways..... Black Hebrew Israelites will believe Mariah Carey is a “Israelite” but not the European/white/Arab looking Jews always seemed contradictory to me :rudy:


And I’ve seen David Lynn destroy their claims on YouTube on many occasions :banderas:

what’s this thread about really:leostare:
 

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Does any of this debate matter?

Only thing THAT MATTERS IS IF YOU BEND THE KNEE WHEN KING JESUS COMES
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it matters because Hebrew Israelite teachings can be a slippery slope leading Black people away from Christ and a return to a form of Orthodox Judaism.
 

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I know its some that dont hate Africa (Ben Ahmi followers for example) but israelites in general do. GMS, ISUPK, LionsofIsrael, etc
I can see why the government has allowed them to spew their bullshyt on street corners in major cities :camby:
 

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That’s a good thing :blessed:

Well as long as they’re going away from that and turning back to following the Torah
:usure::ufdup:

And where has trying to follow the Torah lead jewish people in the Bible stories and over the history of their existence on earth since Jesus?

Maybe they’d be better off following the life and teachings of Jesus first :steviej:
 

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And where has trying to follow the Torah lead people in the Bible stories

Let’s see:

Deuteronomy 28
1 If you fully obey the LORD your God and carefully follow all his commands I give you today, the LORD your God will set you high above all the nations on earth. 2 All these blessings will come upon you and accompany you if you obey the LORD your God: 3You will be blessed in the city and blessed in the country.4 The fruit of your womb will be blessed, and the crops of your land and the young of your livestock--the calves of your herds and the lambs of your flocks.5 Your basket and your kneading trough will be blessed.6 You will be blessed when you come in and blessed when you go out. 7 The LORD will grant that the enemies who rise up against you will be defeated before you. They will come at you from one direction but flee from you in seven.8 The LORD will send a blessing on your barns and on everything you put your hand to. The LORD your God will bless you in the land he is giving you.9 The LORD will establish you as his holy people, as he promised you on oath, if you keep the commands of the LORD your God and walk in his ways.10 Then all the peoples on earth will see that you are called by the name of the LORD, and they will fear you.11 The LORD will grant you abundant prosperity--in the fruit of your womb, the young of your livestock and the crops of your ground--in the land he swore to your forefathers to give you.12 The LORD will open the heavens, the storehouse of his bounty, to send rain on your land in season and to bless all the work of your hands. You will lend to many nations but will borrow from none.13 The LORD will make you the head, not the tail. If you pay attention to the commands of the LORD your God that I give you this day and carefully follow them, you will always be at the top, never at the bottom.

We off that Jesus crap :scust::blessed:
 

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:ooh:

has @MMS met his match in these forums :steviej:
Anyways..... Black Hebrew Israelites will believe Mariah Carey is a “Israelite” but not the European/white/Arab looking Jews always seemed contradictory to me :rudy:


And I’ve seen David Lynn destroy their claims on YouTube on many occasions :banderas:

what’s this thread about really:leostare:
I’d read that dialogue again :francis:

folks need to understand what it means to speak of god let alone speak for god before they trust any words

Anyone who says to you I will make you greater than others is deceiving you
 

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Babylonian Jews rewrote a great deal of the Old Testament

folks need to wisen up to the truth

anyone here who would say “this is my law” it will be true. But folks in here do not understand that the heathen were meant for those books. And even those books were corrupted by those same heathen

any self respecting black person should read between the lines rather than following heathen and their talking points which also includes apocrypha like Enoch

consider why someone would write of and about their god and you’ll understand that a great deal of it spawned from a bad place

we’re talking about people who have been tilling soil for a loong time
 
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Genesis 9:18-27
18 And the sons of Noah, that went forth of the ark, were Shem, and Ham, and Japheth: and Ham is the father of Canaan.

19 These are the three sons of Noah: and of them was the whole earth overspread.

20 And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard:

21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.

22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.

23 And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness.

24 And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.

25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.

26 And he said, Blessed be the Lord God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
all is talking about the languages that sprouted from Noah. His nakedness being the numeric system behind the original language.

Ham being Egypt/Kush (Africa)
Canaan being Phoenicia

furthermore..the name Poseidon which was the name of the patron deity of the island faring nations of Canaan (Phoenicia) in the Mediterranean means The Lord of Sidon (Si-Dione) which translates to "Lord of the Daughter of GOD"

all people who speak the language of Canaan are cursed into servitude (Hebrew)

Dione (mythology) - Wikipedia

this is why israelites worshiped asherash and ashtoroths is because they worshiped their mothers/women

heres an example:

And let it come to pass, that the damsel to whom I shall say, Let down thy pitcher, I pray thee, that I may drink; and she shall say, Drink, and I will give thy camels drink also: let the same be she that thou hast appointed for thy servant Isaac; and thereby shall I know that thou hast shewed kindness unto my master.

— Genesis 24:14

this is a metaphor and an allegory :mjpls:

Genesis 28:11-29

11 And Jacob said to Rebekah his mother, Behold, Esau my brother is a hairy man, and I am a smooth man:

12 My father peradventure will feel me, and I shall seem to him as a deceiver; and I shall bring a curse upon me, and not a blessing.

13 And his mother said unto him, Upon me be thy curse, my son: only obey my voice, and go fetch me them.

14 And he went, and fetched, and brought them to his mother: and his mother made savoury meat, such as his father loved.

15 And Rebekah took goodly raiment of her eldest son Esau, which were with her in the house, and put them upon Jacob her younger son:

16 And she put the skins of the kids of the goats upon his hands, and upon the smooth of his neck:

17 And she gave the savoury meat and the bread, which she had prepared, into the hand of her son Jacob.

18 And he came unto his father, and said, My father: and he said, Here am I; who art thou, my son?

19 And Jacob said unto his father, I am Esau thy first born; I have done according as thou badest me: arise, I pray thee, sit and eat of my venison, that thy soul may bless me.

20 And Isaac said unto his son, How is it that thou hast found it so quickly, my son? And he said, Because the Lord thy God brought it to me.

21 And Isaac said unto Jacob, Come near, I pray thee, that I may feel thee, my son, whether thou be my very son Esau or not.

22 And Jacob went near unto Isaac his father; and he felt him, and said, The voice is Jacob's voice, but the hands are the hands of Esau.

23 And he discerned him not, because his hands were hairy, as his brother Esau's hands: so he blessed him.

24 And he said, Art thou my very son Esau? And he said, I am.

25 And he said, Bring it near to me, and I will eat of my son's venison, that my soul may bless thee. And he brought it near to him, and he did eat: and he brought him wine and he drank.

26 And his father Isaac said unto him, Come near now, and kiss me, my son.

27 And he came near, and kissed him: and he smelled the smell of his raiment, and blessed him, and said, See, the smell of my son is as the smell of a field which the Lord hath blessed:

28 Therefore God give thee of the dew of heaven, and the fatness of the earth, and plenty of corn and wine:

29 Let people serve thee, and nations bow down to thee: be lord over thy brethren, and let thy mother's sons bow down to thee: cursed be every one that curseth thee, and blessed be he that blesseth thee.

@DoubleClutch dont call me a hebrew israelite :ufdup:
 
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building off Genesis 9 and the treachery of abrahams female lineage

12 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.

13 And the Lord God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.

14 And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;

18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;

19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.

20 And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.

El Roi - Wikipedia

It is commonly translated as "the God who sees me" and is both a descriptive epithet for God using the word "El" (God) and a modifier indicating a quality of God. It was first mentioned in the Book of Genesis (Genesis 16:13), by Hagar, mother of Abraham's eldest son, Ishmael.

Genesis 16:6-13
6 But Abram said unto Sarai, Behold, thy maid is in thine hand; do to her as it pleaseth thee. And when Sarai dealt hardly with her, she fled from her face.

7 And the angel of the Lord found her by a fountain of water in the wilderness, by the fountain in the way to Shur.

8 And he said, Hagar, Sarai's maid, whence camest thou? and whither wilt thou go? And she said, I flee from the face of my mistress Sarai.

9 And the angel of the Lord said unto her, Return to thy mistress, and submit thyself under her hands.

10 And the angel of the Lord said unto her, I will multiply thy seed exceedingly, that it shall not be numbered for multitude.

11 And the angel of the Lord said unto her, Behold, thou art with child and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the Lord hath heard thy affliction.

12 And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.

13 And she called the name of the Lord that spake unto her, Thou God seest me: for she said, Have I also here looked after him that seeth me?

as it is predicted The Lord God of Shem (Arabic) is enlarged at the expense of Canaan (Hebrew) who dwell in their tents (letters)

Ezekiel 19:10-14
10 Thy mother is like a vine in thy blood, planted by the waters: she was fruitful and full of branches by reason of many waters.

11 And she had strong rods for the sceptres of them that bare rule, and her stature was exalted among the thick branches, and she appeared in her height with the multitude of her branches.

12 But she was plucked up in fury, she was cast down to the ground, and the east wind dried up her fruit: her strong rods were broken and withered; the fire consumed them.

13 And now she is planted in the wilderness, in a dry and thirsty ground.

14 And fire is gone out of a rod of her branches, which hath devoured her fruit, so that she hath no strong rod to be a sceptre to rule. This is a lamentation, and shall be for a lamentation.

why would israelites say God has a wife or a daughter :jbhmm:
 
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