Anybody Ever Watch New Japan?

[Beautiful Bobby Eatin]

I'd like to get more into it but unfortunately don't know if I need to watch weekly shows. I dont even know how to watch weekly shows. I feel like I'll be missing out just watching Ppvs. Thankfully language barrier is non issue for me and read what they're saying. I tried to watch Wrestle Kingdom last year and it was like 6 hours long. How the fukk do you guys watch that?

Sooo much more easily than a three hour RAW

 

[OmegaK2099]

 

[OmegaK2099]

 

[Jmare007]

That Andre/Hansen match always makes me go

 

[The Amerikkkan Idol]

Sooo much more easily than a three hour RAW

I know right, RAW is just brutal now, bruh.

It's just a bunch of 6 team tag matches for people they don't know who to do shyt for.

then they have those wack ass 7 on 7 divas matches, just so the women can have something to do, while AJ never drops the belt.

Then John Cena (the wigger) comes out and starts doing whatever lame shyt he does.

How did it get this bad?

I pretty much only watch for The Wyatts and The Shield now.

Bray Wyatt bruhs

 

[Beautiful Bobby Eatin]

I know right, RAW is just brutal now, bruh.

It's just a bunch of 6 team tag matches for people they don't know who to do shyt for.

then they have those wack ass 7 on 7 divas matches, just so the women can have something to do, while AJ never drops the belt.

Then John Cena (the wigger) comes out and starts doing whatever lame shyt he does.

How did it get this bad?

I pretty much only watch for The Wyatts and The Shield now.

Bray Wyatt bruhs

Theres so many people to blame I ran out of fingers pointing them out.

 

[The Amerikkkan Idol]

Bruhs, I just watched New Japan on AXS TV and I swear this match between Nakamura and Ibushi is one of the best matches I've seen since I started back watching wrestling.

This shyt is like 1000x better than WWE or even Lucha Underground, which I love.

I've been confused bruhs, led astray bruhs, by sports entertainment.

Just everything about it is better, except maybe the entrances, but the in ring action is strong style, dudes look like they're actually hurting each other in there.

The matches are unpredictable. There's no, "Well, I can go to the bathroom now" shyt. You might just miss a fukkin' standing shooting star.

And the post match interviews where they talk to the winners and losers like in boxing or something makes it seem so much credible.

Why can't we have shyt like this in America?

 

[TheDarceKnight]

But on another note, the more I watch it, I wonder why an emerging promotion doesn't try to go this type of route, rather than attempting to compete with Vince by being WWE/WCW Lite. At no point watching this, do I get the "this shyt is fake" feeling that non wrestling fans are turned off by. With MMA being what it is, I can see the vibe of this kind of promotion getting over. Dudes actually kicking the shyt out of each other and working stiff, dim arenas and different camera angles, giving it a boxing feel, the belts meaning more, tournaments.

It feels like a sport. I even got my girl watching with me. They could find a way to incorporate storylines also, in the vein of like a cable drama, as opposed to just old school wrestling angles. Seems like we're in the realism area of society right now, so not saying it would topple the WWE, but there may be a market for it.

i agree 100%

The one issue I could see with this in America is that a lot of these cats have legit MMA training and backgrounds, even if they have not the best records. In America there isn't that fusion of pro wrestling and grappling based martial arts like there is over there. Dean Malenko for example was legit trained how to fight. Ken Shamrock learned his grappling for vale tudo / mma with guys like Suzuki.

So Japan's culture sort of accepts a blurred line between the two. I think it might be hard to take a newer generation of Americans with mma backgrounds that have trained in America, and have them bleed that into pro wrestling. Same goes for American pro wrestlers in terms of trying to get them some more legit martial arts and grappling training. I don't know if this is making sense or not, but I could see that being the biggest hurdle.

Those reDRagon dudes have legit training and I think it shows in their matches. I saw O'Reilly transitioning between some submission holds and I could tell it was just too fluid for him not to have some legit experience so I google'd him and it turns out he does. Same with his tag team partner fish. He had a heel hook for a finishing move and it was applied very well so I google'd him and he was a decent mma record too, I think.

EDIT: Kyle O'Reilly from reDRagon in an interview basically says what me and you are saying. Check this out. He's basically an MMA fighter doing pro wrestling. And he's one of my favorite wrestlers now.

PRO MMA NOW: How you would you say that your MMA training has helped you in your professional wrestling career?

KYLE O’REILLY: I think with the sort of evolutionary phase that pro wrestling is going, and how much MMA is taking off, I feel that people kind of need to see sort of a more realistic approach to pro wrestling. You can be watching Monday Night Raw and literally flip the channel and you can see someone getting knocked out with a punch when on Raw they’ll be getting punched in the corner nonstop and it’s not doing anything. It kind of brings a different believability to the table and I like to pride myself on sort of bringing a sort of believability to my matches and just trying to shake things up. You know, maybe it won’t work down the line, but I’m just trying to beat to my own drum and sort of come up with new things.

O'Reilly's partner, Bobby Fish says something similar here:
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All of it comes to the pro wrestling ring, and Fish dismisses anyone who thinks there shouldn't be any overlap between MMA and pro wrestling.

"At the end of the day, pro wrestling's roots are back in catch wrestling. To anybody who is a purist on one side or another, I think it's just ridiculous, because they are so intertwined," he said, using some examples.

"There are a multitude of kicks that I throw that come straight out of Muay Thai," he said. "Some of Kyle's submissions come from jiu-jitsu. I use a knee bar myself a lot of times, which transfers easily into a heel hook. These are all things that you will see in MMA, and I think they translate directly to pro wrestling."