I heard a rumor that at the height of the East/West beef, one of the Outlawz was playing "Ol' School" in the studio and pac told him to "turn that bullshít off"
Anyone else notice 2Pac didn't mention 1 west coast act on the 1995 song "Old School?"
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Plankton
Superstar
What part of Wasn't like NYC wasn't playing all those west coast songs didn't you understand?
And someone who is unfamiliar like yourself would really try to align Jersey with NYC like we were close like that when we didn't really look at it like that. Jersey was a whole other world to us.
Colors was a major movie in 88. There's no way we didn't acknowledge Ice T when Colors dropped. The overall point is that the west coast music was part of the old school in NYC, including the west coast shyt that made noise in the late 80's. Even 3rd bass acknowledged Hammer in 89 when they were dissing him.
H. Selassie
Black Royalty
Plankton
Superstar
Man wtf you talking about?
Hammer was seen as a childs act and also sort of a joke in those days.
Revisionist history and nobody caring about the culture is what's making him acceptable now.
Tone Loc!?
Why wouldnt he mention Treach?
That was his guy.
Im from the midwest but its goofy to not accept the roots of hiphop were on the northeast
Yes, the same Tone Loc that had a baby with the same girl Tupac had a baby with in the movie Poetic Justice. The same Tone Loc that was in NWA's Express Yourself video. The same Tone Loc that was the only west coast rapper in the Self Destruction video. Obviously the east coast embraced Tone Loc if he was in such an important video yet here you are dismissing him. SMH.
Bondye Vodou
Proud practitioner of the "High Science"
"MC NEW YORK"
He was Game with a revolutionary background 
Anything not NYC is a whole nother world to yall. That doesn’t mean New Jersey isn’t a part of the NYC Metro area. Pac was obviously paying homage to NYC/Tri State culture and his own personal memories of it from growing up.
Mentioning West Coast music, a style that’s aesthetically different from NYC rap, makes no sense. There’s not enough bars to do all that reminiscent shyt AND provide context on the arrival of West Coast music to NYC and how they reacted to their exposure to a new form of rap music.
Plankton
Superstar
LOL. You are so full of crap. How the hell is Pac paying homage to Tri State culture and his own personal memories of it from growing up when he was living in Cali when Latifah and Treach started making noise. Now you just pulling shyt out of your ass.
So he's living in Cali and will acknowledge Latifah and Treach who are new on the scene but not NWA and Ice T from his own state. The fact that you don't see how that is off is baffling.
He was Game with a revolutionary background
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LOL. You are so full of crap. How the hell is Pac paying homage to Tri State culture and his own personal memories of it from growing up. when he was living in Cali when Latifah and Treach started making noise. Now you just pulling shyt out of your ass.
So because he was in Cali when Treach and Latifah came out that made them out of bounds to talk about even though they are a product of the Tri State area?
Old School is a song dedicated to Tri State culture and the artists that came out of there both when he was young and the contemporaries he befriended later. It was slanted to talk specifically about that subject. Cali didn’t have any place in that song, shyt would’ve sounded forced just for the sake of it. This nikka gon talk about Italian ices and Latin Quarters then randomly drop a Too $hort reference just because?
Let’s not forget the fact that by this point a lot of his music had a Bay Area/Cali sound. Including his own rap flow and cadences. This time period was when he was going back to his NYC roots. On top of that, what was he doing atp of his life? Filming Above the Rim, hanging with wild Brooklyn nikkaz, catching cases, running around with Junior Mafia and E Money Bags, recording tracks with Easy Mo Bee, his very life at that time WAS on some NYC shyt.
This thread is retarded, stop trolling me.
Plankton
Superstar
Dude, you are so full of crap. You and many others came in here and said NYC first now you switching it up to "Tri State culture" when I pointed out the flaw.
I'm actually making an excellent point but you are being stubborn so now you gotta lie and say the song was dedicated to the tri state culture. Hilarious.
Pac did the song from the perspective of "Hey y'all remember this?" so kick rocks with that "the artists that came out of there both when he was young and the contemporaries he befriended later" nonsense. If that was the case it would have given him more of a reason to mention Digital Underground who had a hit song way before OPP.
Dude, you are so full of crap. You and many others came in here and said NYC first now you switching it up to "Tri State culture" when I pointed out the flaw.
I'm actually making an excellent point but you are being stubborn so now you gotta lie and say the song was dedicated to the tri state culture. Hilarious.
Pac did the song from the perspective of "Hey y'all remember this?" so kick rocks with that "the artists that came out of there both when he was young and the contemporaries he befriended later" nonsense. If that was the case it would have given him more of a reason to mention Digital Underground who had a hit song way before OPP.
Is Digital Underground from anywhere near NYC? Is Jersey more culturally close to NYC than Cali is? Is NYC not the epicenter of so called “Tri State culture” given that the Tri State is just the NYC Metro area?
Nah you’re making a horrible point breh. Pac is originally from NYC. He made a song dedicated to the home he left behind. The later artists he named (even from Jersey) still grew up within a similar cultural context to what he was celebrating. Bringing in Cali would’ve been a complete reach imo. The majority of his life was dictated by the same shyt he was celebrating on the song. He hadn’t even been a West Coast nikka that long when that song came out.
Also, outside of Treach and Latifah, both of whom were friends of his, who else was mentioned that you find objectionable? Vast majority of the song was name dropping 80s acts that he would’ve been listening to in NYC and Baltimore before Cali was even a thing.
pac debuted in 91 with a New York sound
this song came out in 95 continuing his New York sound
less than a year later he was a west coast legend
pac is definitely the right place at the right time dude
if this was 2025…
this song came out in 95 continuing his New York sound
less than a year later he was a west coast legend
pac is definitely the right place at the right time dude
if this was 2025…
jilla82
Veteran
youre trying to tell me brehs was bumpin Tone Loc like that?
