Anyone else tired of all these hiphop "rules"?

[CrimsonTider]

I listen to music for entertainment, not on how I live my life.

I also listen to more than just hiphop....for the same reasons. ANYONE thinking this shyt is more than just entertainment needs a reality check.


I listen to music like a watch movies. I go in hoping to be entertained by the things I see and hear. fukk I care about how Tom Cruise lives his life as long as that new Mission Impossible is dope as fukk

Exactly

It's why I always object to people saying a rappers "has no substance or rap about the same thing"

Rappers go into the booth and play ton their strengths just like actors do.

This shyt is 100% entertainment and the rappers are in it 100% for the money

If a rapper is positioning himself as "conscious" or a "real nikka" it's all marketing

 

[SirBiatch]

I listen to music for entertainment, not on how I live my life.

I also listen to more than just hiphop....for the same reasons. ANYONE thinking this shyt is more than just entertainment needs a reality check.

Respectfully, I think you need a reality check.

Hip hop grew because it blurred the line between reality and entertainment really fukking well. Hip hop is fascinating because it's real (mostly). Not because it's just entertainment.

And frankly, the 'it's just entertainment' folks need to get the fukk outta the genre.

 

[Maschine_Man]

Respectfully, I think you need a reality check.

Hip hop grew because it blurred the line between reality and entertainment really fukking well. Hip hop is fascinating because it's real (mostly). Not because it's just entertainment.

And frankly, the 'it's just entertainment' folks need to get the fukk outta the genre.

LOL Ask NWA when they were the ones that came out and said " we ain't real its just all entertainment"

the moment someone saw they could make $$ from this is when this "keep it real" shyt went out the window.

But a rapper marketing themselves as a real rapper looks better in the streets than someone who doesnt.

but you make a great point....it DID blur the lines between reality and entertainment. It made it so no one could really tell. But best beleive that is social media was popping in 95 like it is now you'd see alot of fake ass shyt then too.

 

[-DMP-]

Im not against the whole "it's only entertainment thing" because that's where im at with rap as a whole.

But at one point, a rapper had to know how to rap (rhymes, timing, breath control etc) to be taken serious, just like actors have to know how to act, singers sing etc.

All that other ish is extra

So how exactly am I supposed to view a rapper if they can't really rap?

 

[SuburbanPimp]

Well I honestly don't care about most that shyt...

But I feel like it should be known if a rapper doesn't write their own raps...

That's just me personally though.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

I remember when they went at Wayne for CLAIMS he had a ghostwriter

Or when they went at Dre for jacking nikkas shyt

What about producers when they sample old hits in a completely different genre?


I don't know if the Drake machine is fabricated or not, what I do know is that there's a lot of people in the rap game LYING about everything.. or LYING about something

I know 50 trying to save face, but if that nikka really only worth 4.4 Mil wtf he been doing/talking about in his own rhymes?


I also know that as an artist, people take inspiration from different places... I also know that you can't be successful for years without having some kind of talent

 

[Maschine_Man]

Im not against the whole "it's only entertainment thing" because that's where im at with rap as a whole.

But at one point, a rapper had to know how to rap (rhymes, timing, breath control etc) to be taken serious, just like actors have to know how to act, singers sing etc.

All that other ish is extra

So how exactly am I supposed to view a rapper if they can't really rap?

if a rapper can't rap then he's not a rapper.

my point is rapping is more about just writing lyrics you need to know how to flow, have a dope voice and great cadence, breath control etc.

thats why there are a lot of great LYRICISTS and MC's that have horrible flow or make terrible songs

 

[YeLovesBoston]

I really hate you new guys who come in to hip hop trying to rewrite everything
This is why the culture repeatedly getd pissed on

 

[Maschine_Man]

Well I honestly don't care about most that shyt...

But I feel like it should be known if a rapper doesn't write their own raps...

That's just me personally though.

like giving credit where its due?
I totally agree. I am against ghost producers and ghostwriters to be totally honest. I think that creats a bigger falsehood and is INTENTIONALLY trying to hide something. But alot of these dudes are actually getting writing credits on the songs...so IMO thats cool

 

[Maschine_Man]

I really hate you new guys who come in to hip hop trying to rewrite everything
This is why the culture repeatedly getd pissed on

new??



























I'm probably older than you and been around 100x more "hiphop" than you have ever been.

 

[YeLovesBoston]

new??



























I'm probably older than you and been around 100x more "hiphop" than you have ever been.

you a Dolphins fan so i aint mad at cha

 

[Umi]

Hold up...before you start flaming hear me out.

Nah. fukk you b.

 

[-DMP-]

if a rapper can't rap then he's not a rapper.

my point is rapping is more about just writing lyrics you need to know how to flow, have a dope voice and great cadence, breath control etc.

thats why there are a lot of great LYRICISTS and MC's that have horrible flow or make terrible songs

I agree with the bolded, its why I named some of them in my post.

So if we both feel like being a rapper includes writing lyrics, along with breath control, voice, flow etc

then why the thread seemingly saying "you cant call out a rapper for not writing his lyrics because his subject matter/image isn't real"

The image/content is the entertainment part, now, for me, I am not 12 and don't really care if these rappers live what they rapping.

Long as they can take the entertaining content, and write raps about it, im good.

I do care if they write what they rapping because I want to know where to properly place you and not give false adulation.

 

[SirBiatch]

LOL Ask NWA when they were the ones that came out and said " we ain't real its just all entertainment"

the moment someone saw they could make $$ from this is when this "keep it real" shyt went out the window.

But a rapper marketing themselves as a real rapper looks better in the streets than someone who doesnt.

but you make a great point....it DID blur the lines between reality and entertainment. It made it so no one could really tell. But best beleive that is social media was popping in 95 like it is now you'd see alot of fake ass shyt then too.

NWA didn't invent hip hop and hip hop was out for almost 15 years before they arrived.

I'm not saying hip hop hasn't had its share of fake fukkery from back then. I'm just saying that the genre thrives on authenticity. Right down to the rugged feel of a breakbeat.

 

[Maschine_Man]

NWA didn't invent hip hop and hip hop was out for almost 15 years before they arrived.

I'm not saying hip hop hasn't had its share of fake fukkery from back then. I'm just saying that the genre thrives on authenticity. Right down to the rugged feel of a breakbeat.

So what do you say about the sugarhill gang stealing the first major hiphop song ever?