Anyone Who Agrees With Erykah Badu Is An Idiot

[Raava]

What's wrong with not sexualizing school age girls? that's not victim blaming. Yes you can be gawked at, harassed, assaulted dressed as a nun but does that mean high school kids need to dress like insta thots? That doesn't excuse the predators. She wasn't talking about grown women from what I saw. Who is responsible for guiding children? How do they learn?

 

[Biscayne]

Wasn't gonna respond to everyone in this thread: http://www.thecoli.com/threads/hotep-on-hotep-violence-erikha-badu-vs-twitter-feminists.418344/

So I decided to create a separate one just to air my grievances about this flawed ass logic that girls/women should dress a certain way in order to avoid being violated/attacked.

It doesn't matter what a woman/girl wears. They can and are often subjected to objectification, harassment, etc. by men just for being of the opposite sex. I know first-hand since I've experienced these things from the beginning stages of puberty to now. And I was ALWAYS fully clothed; usually wore hoodies, jeans, and t-shirts.

Even women in the Middle East whom wear hijabs (a clothing item that covers everything but their eyes) are sexually assaulted and raped.

Why isn't the onus being put on predators to stop being fukking predators? Or for creeps to stop being fukking creeps? Why is Erykah talking about men as if y'all are barbaric creatures that are controlled by their dikks and incapable of acting like civilized human beings?

What about boys who get targeted and abused? Should they watch what they wear as well to prevent the same fate? Don't y'all see how fukking stupid this sounds? The focus should be punishing the people who target the victims, not dictating what the victims wear as if that's somehow correlated to a pervert's attraction to them.

I see both point of views. I dont think Erykah was putting the onus on women, I think she just felt as if children need to dress appropriately. I've heard people say idiotic things like "She shouldn't wear such and such if she doesn't wanna get raped" as if rapist are gonna decide to not rape based on a womans dress code. A nun can get raped. I think men and boys just need to have self-control. But, I think people need to chill with the Erykah slander. She never excused pedophiles for being pedophiles. Why is there never any middle-ground with this specific debate?

 

[TEH]

fukking whores want little girls to dress like them. fukk outta here with this nonsense.

 

[Chelsea Bridge]

I agree that girls in school should have dress restrictions like wearing skirts above their knees, shirts that show cleavage etc but I definitely don't agree with her reasoning for it.

 

[George's Dilemma]

I agree that the onus should be placed on men/boys not to harass or sexually assault. There's never any excuse for that behavior. Now, the context of the other thread was in regards to what girls are wearing at school, high school to be exact. At that age, girls are going to be objectified regardless of what they wear, and that's completely natural as we're talking about puberty. I can't speak for women, but from my own experiences, a lot of females back then played right along with it. I remember girls getting sent home for dressing proactively. I didn't much understand it then just chalking it up to they "dressed as sluts." Now though, in hindsight, I think it's more about maintaining a certain environment in classrooms and high school campuses. Boys are going to look regardless of what girls are wearing, and they're going to form opinions regardless of what girls are wearing. Still, wouldn't it make sense to mitigate as much sexual tension as possible? I think so, and a conservative dress code would contribute positively in high school.

Another thing too, while we're on the subject, I think feminists are going about so called "rape culture" entirely wrong on college campuses. They're so busy telling young men not to rape, and encouraging women to dress however, that they fail to neglect how alcohol plays a role in most instances of disputable allegations of sexual assault on college campuses. Instead of telling boys to stop raping, they need to tell both sexes to put the bottle down, act like an adult, show some self respect, and live/party responsibly.

 

[Biscayne]

Yeah, any teacher who feels like they can't control their urges around underaged girls, needs to not be a teacher. You may not be able to control every rapist out there, but who teaches your children is within the control of many people, including yourself, as you can report a teacher if your child tells you what that teacher did.

 

[postnutclarity]

What's wrong with not sexualizing school age girls? that's not victim blaming. Yes you can be gawked at, harassed, assaulted dressed as a nun but does that mean high school kids need to dress like insta thots? That doesn't excuse the predators. She wasn't talking about grown women from what I saw. Who is responsible for guiding children? How do they learn?

No one's saying that there's anything wrong with NOT sexualizing little girls. I'm saying PERVS will sexualize them REGARDLESS. You totally missed the point I was making. And the school skirts that were being discussed weren't event that short, so adding a couple of inches to them won't make a difference in a perv's mind. They will be perverted, no matter what the girls wear. THAT is all I'm saying. Stop being obtuse.

 

[CashmereThoughts]

pretty much

 

[CinnaSlim]

She mentioned while in school. I agree certain outfits should be school appropriate to avoid distractions of children going through puberty and exploring their sexuality.

If you going to a party or the mall, you can dress differently. But I do agree kids should dress like kids. Girls need to be aware of the power of their sexuality. But you dont just put a child in the fast lane, put some training wheels on first.

Like I said in the other thread, it's similar to how many cultures have markers of children/young girls and those who are ready for sex and marriage, whether clothing, hairstyles, etc. They usually have to go through a rite of passage, which we dont really do anymore. Bat/Bar Mitzvahs, sweet sixteen, Quinceñeras, etc.

 

[postnutclarity]

Advocate for little girls dressing like hoes brehs

Now where did you see me advocating for such a thing? Don't worry, I'll wait.

Obtuse ass nikkas. Totally missing my point.

 

[BocaRear]

All you nikkas against Eyrkah Badu can do whatever you want

Yall daughters can dress like hoes, but mine are gonna be wearing skirts that swing past their ankles

 

[↓R↑LYB]

#freethenipple

 

[postnutclarity]

She mentioned while in school. I agree certain outfits should be school appropriate to avoid distractions of children going through puberty and exploring their sexuality.

If you going to a party or the mall, you can dress differently. But I do agree kids should dress like kids. Girls need to be aware of the power of their sexuality. But you dont just put a child in the fast lane, put some training wheels on first.

Like I said in the other thread, it's similar to how many cultures have markers of children/young girls and those who are ready for sex and marriage, whether clothing, hairstyles, etc. They usually have to go through a rite of passage, which we dont really do anymore. Bat/Bar Mitzvahs, sweet sixteen, Quinceñeras, etc.

When I was in high school (which wasn't that long ago), most girls dressed appropriately and were still being ogled by grown ass men. I think some of you are definitely missing my point.

 

[↓R↑LYB]

Ya'll heard Rich Gang is getting back together?

RHQ > YT

 

[CinnaSlim]

But it's not just about perverts and rapists, tho and I think thats what's got everyone amped up. She is saying men are visual creatures, so it's respecting both genders sexuality. She's saying what can we do to protect our girls. The men have their own responsibility to control themselves but modesty's purpose is to curb temptation. Any man is gonna notice a female's body, but there's a difference in seeing a woman clothed and seeing more skin. It sends a different message. Like regular halloween costumes and "sexy" halloween costumes.